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Besides I doubt most people will stop calling it mosport
Hell, I still call Infineon Raceway "Sears Point", and some people still call Sonoma Raceway "Infineon Raceway".
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Hell, I still call Infineon Raceway "Sears Point", and some people still call Sonoma Raceway "Infineon Raceway".
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Hell, I still call Infineon Raceway "Sears Point", and some people still call Sonoma Raceway "Infineon Raceway".
And polarbear345's autocorrect says "Limerick Park."
Face it, there will always be weird track name variants. Like Buddha International Raceway (you know, Indian GP circuit?)
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I'm watching the Mosport race with about 33 minutes left, and something just crossed my mind.
How many classes are to be in the USCR? There are five on track, and I having a fuster-cluck of a time figuring out who is where and in what class. The GTC porsches don't help at all, they really seem like rolling roadblocks right now.
How many classes are to be in the USCR? There are five on track, and I having a fuster-cluck of a time figuring out who is where and in what class. The GTC porsches don't help at all, they really seem like rolling roadblocks right now.
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Four classes now I believe: P (LMP2, DP, DeltaWing), PC (LMPC), GTLM (GTE), & GTD (GTC and Grand-Am GT and GX).
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Oh man, ESPN is by far the worst motorsport coverage I've ever seen. Starting the coverage (on ESPN 2) late in to the race, and having far too many cut aways to random crap like promotions, interviews, etc.
^Yeah I felt the same way. Had a hard time trusting whether a car in front/back of another one was fighting for a position. I guess it just comes with multi class racing. When I watch F1, despite it being much faster paced, I pretty much always know who is in what position.
^Yeah I felt the same way. Had a hard time trusting whether a car in front/back of another one was fighting for a position. I guess it just comes with multi class racing. When I watch F1, despite it being much faster paced, I pretty much always know who is in what position.
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Speaking of coverage, I hope they get a good TV package for USCR as well ,preferably with NBC as both ESPN and Fox/Speed really abuse sports car racing. Pair the NBC network coverage with Varsha, Diffey, and Hindhaugh as the race broadcasters, and we've got a pretty good TV package.
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Yeah NBC has been surprisingly good. It'd be great for Bob Varsha to join the NBC team. They really only cover the biggest of the big though, and so I doubt we'd see ALMS. It's not that it isn't a "big" series, it's just that it doesn't draw in the big numbers for viewers. That's why it gets bumped to the likes of SPEED and ESPN.
Though SPEED isn't really horrible to be honest. I'm sad to see it go next month.
Though SPEED isn't really horrible to be honest. I'm sad to see it go next month.
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One thing that needs to come back for the merger is the ALMS' "position lights" that used to be on everything, basically for those that don't know they were three little lights on the side of each car indicating the top 3 in each class. Trying to figure out who was where today (i'm at Mosport) was a bit of a challenge, especially when pit stops, etc began. I never understood why the ALMS got rid of them, it was a fantastic idea..
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About 6 if my math is right.
Speedvision was fine, the moment it became SPEED was when it all started going downhill.
I don't think I've seen position lights. It's a good idea though.
Bob Varsha is pretty good, his voice can be enough to pull some in, but if you want to bring someone big in, we need to figure out how to get Bob Jenkins back into the booth.
Speedvision was fine, the moment it became SPEED was when it all started going downhill.
I don't think I've seen position lights. It's a good idea though.
Bob Varsha is pretty good, his voice can be enough to pull some in, but if you want to bring someone big in, we need to figure out how to get Bob Jenkins back into the booth.
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Don't know if you guys saw this news already or what, but here:
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/uscr-fia-gt3-cars-to-be-allowed-in-gtd/
GT3, the true world GT series!
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/uscr-fia-gt3-cars-to-be-allowed-in-gtd/
GT3, the true world GT series!
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Not suprising, they're already allowed in Grand-Am GT.
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If the NASCAR people don't bring in good broadcasting and promotion, and help popularize the series/bring in money, I have no idea why ALMS even bothered to agree to a merger.
Thought the whole point was that France and crew had the dough to push the series' weight around and 'save' sports car racing in North America...
Or am I wrong and they're just shoveling water out of a sinking boat?
At any rate I expect about HALF the commercials and twice the broadcasting quality we get for ALMS now. NASCAR has an incredibly massive amount of airtime, and I would expect the franchise to put the same effort into USCR, even if it's slightly less popular and has slightly fewer hour-long analysis programs about whether or not Danicka Patrick should pose nude... :/
Thought the whole point was that France and crew had the dough to push the series' weight around and 'save' sports car racing in North America...
Or am I wrong and they're just shoveling water out of a sinking boat?
At any rate I expect about HALF the commercials and twice the broadcasting quality we get for ALMS now. NASCAR has an incredibly massive amount of airtime, and I would expect the franchise to put the same effort into USCR, even if it's slightly less popular and has slightly fewer hour-long analysis programs about whether or not Danicka Patrick should pose nude... :/
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Sounds like the article Wardez posted could mean we might see a handful of BES teams come over for the NAEC which would be awesome. It might also mean that we see a few teams from SCCA World Challenge switch over.
It's still a bummer for Audi, Ferrari and most importantly AMR who played by Grand Am's rules and developed cars that will now be effectively rendered moot with this new GT3 allowance.
But it's also good to see that the USCR isn't taking the "America is so awesome you have to develop cars just for us" attitude Grand Am had.
It's still a bummer for Audi, Ferrari and most importantly AMR who played by Grand Am's rules and developed cars that will now be effectively rendered moot with this new GT3 allowance.
But it's also good to see that the USCR isn't taking the "America is so awesome you have to develop cars just for us" attitude Grand Am had.
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I think Audi, Ferrari, and AMR will actually be glad Grand Am did away with the rules and allow the cars in as built from the factory, with the exception of the spec wing.
Honestly they should do away with the spec wing as well and just let them in entirely without technical interference from the ruling body. They may cite costs, but a spec wing doesn't really sound something that will cut costs to a noticeable degree. Performance I may agree it may help with parity, but that's not stopping the GT3 suppliers providing updates every year let alone between races to get the advantage over the other.
Honestly they should do away with the spec wing as well and just let them in entirely without technical interference from the ruling body. They may cite costs, but a spec wing doesn't really sound something that will cut costs to a noticeable degree. Performance I may agree it may help with parity, but that's not stopping the GT3 suppliers providing updates every year let alone between races to get the advantage over the other.
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What I mean by standardized ecu is that all teams have to run the same brand ecu that will be checked by Imsa to prevent cheating.
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I'm glad the wc cars can come over now. Two of their classes are basically the ctscc classes
My 2nd biggest reason for liking grand am is that they took the "build a car for us" mentality. That prevented someone overseas from changing the rules no questions asked and putting burdens on teams in America. When the alms had LMP 2 with LMP 1, it was the best racing the alms had seen in the prototype category. They changed to match the ACO, and it went downhill fast.
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What I mean by standardized ecu is that all teams have to run the same brand ecu that will be checked by Imsa to prevent cheating.
Having a standard ECU seems silly. Theres a fuel allowance, and theres an air restrictor. You should be able to do what you wish. No reason to have a GT3 Viper running the same program or ECU as a Small-block V8. I cant help but think that just adds extra cost. Plus I'm going to assume that the cars would be more reliable with the electronics they were built for.
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Well, I was specifically referring to the teams who run GT3 cars in WC, like GMG who has fielded up to 7 Audi R8's in a single race and usually runs 5.
I agree that keeping an independence is good, however it ultimately restricts you when everyone is going to a single GT formula and you're not. I've wanted to see GT3 cars, but there was no possible way that all of the manufacturers were going to spend money developing a car that would have to compete with all of the other manufacturers who were spending money developing cars for the series. There's only so many teams to buy cars and the prospect of selling 1-2 means you're not getting a solid return on investment.
A decade ago when GT was a massively open format, it was okay to say "We're going to do this" because it most likely meant that you'd get a handful of cars that complied with your regulations off the bat. Now it's different since everybody is playing the same ball game with GT3.
