2014 United Sports Car Championship

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hawkeye122
Having a standard ECU seems silly. Theres a fuel allowance, and theres an air restrictor. You should be able to do what you wish. No reason to have a GT3 Viper running the same program or ECU as a Small-block V8. I cant help but think that just adds extra cost. Plus I'm going to assume that the cars would be more reliable with the electronics they were built for.

The settings can be changed to accommodate each specific car. I'm not saying put the same engine settings for the sky-activ diesel as a v12 Aston Martin :lol: that would be a pain in the rump. I'm saying let the series mandate the ecu which will probably be Bosch like what all the grand am cars have now, but different settings for different cars like there already are in grand am.
 
I'm just not understanding why it's needed. Whats wrong with the ECU's they have?

That Speed article about the Grand Am Aston also mentions that a GTE car should also come in 2014. That excites me, Aston Martin has a fantastic driver lineup.
 
Alright guys, I'm really pouring over this potential USCR schedule and it's a tough nut to crack. There's a lot of good tracks to pick from, and knowing that half the list is guaranteed only makes it more difficult.

Let's break down the potential schedule, I wanna hear your guesses and what you'd like to see! Here's what I think is the likelihood of tracks being featured on the calendar.

110%
Daytona
Sebring
Watkins Glen
Road Atlanta

Reasoning: It's simple, when you own a house, you use the house. These represent some of the most storied tracks in the US as well, and they will undoubtedly all be in the NAEC.

99.99%
Circuit of the America's
Mid-Ohio
Road America
Indianapolis
Laguna Seca

All but completely confirmed. These tracks have either served both series, have good fan bases, or (like above) represent the cream of the crop in US racing tracks. On top of that, they'll be able to easily service the undoubtedly massive field of cars that the USCR will be bringing.

Let's see how we can fill the last three spots... if we can.

70%
Barber*
Lime Rock
Mosport*
Kansas*
Long Beach
Belle Isle

These represent tracks that have either had history with both series, have been linked to manufacturers, or are relatively new to the schedules and are expecting a racing series to visit their track. The street courses are incredibly difficult, because they usually have a lot of money behind them to pack as much action onto the track to justify fencing off city streets like they do, however they may not be able to fit the whole USCR series... and as much as you all may dislike street course racing, Long Beach has an incredible history in the US as a venue, even if it has mostly been associated with open wheel racing.

Still, I see IMSA having a tough time trying to narrow down their schedule, and I'll bet that these are the tracks that are causing them the most headaches. There is a likely chance that Belle Isle, Long Beach and Lime Rock could see pure Prototype or GT fields, since they're smaller and this was hinted at by IMSA.

*= My picks

50% and under
Baltimore
VIR
Any other track that the series has previously visited but isn't currently on the schedule.

Baltimore seems to be the most consistently weak link out of both of the series current schedules. It's the one that's there just because they had the money and needed something to fill the space. I believe that Baltimore is one of the first tracks on the chopping block though, since it doesn't have the prominance of Long Beach, nor the big-name and manufacturer backing of Belle Isle.

As for VIR, it's a great track that I'd love to see on the schedule, but I believe that a USCR event might not be viable enough to pursue racing there for now.
 
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Mosport? What's that? :P


Yes, I am teasing you about your own argument. :lol:

Canadian Tire Motorsports Park? I really hope so. I want to meet Paul Dalla Lana and call him "Racing's Dalai Lama." :lol:
 
This is simply my ideal, logical, 12 race schedule, copy/pasted from my post on speed.com:


1. Daytona (NAEC | Week before Super Bowl)
2. Sebring (NAEC | March)
3. COTA (April)
4. Long Beach (April, with the Indycar)
5. Barber (May)
6. Detroit (Week after Indy 500, with Indycar)
Le Mans break
7. Watkins Glen (NAEC | Week after Le Mans)
8. Indy (NAEC | July, with Nascar)
9. Mosport (August)
10. Road America (August/September; Labor Day weekend, maybe?)
11. Laguna Seca (September/October)
12. Petit Le Mans (NAEC | October)

Other tracks, like Sonoma, Lime Rock and VIR can be added in when they decide to expand the schedule, but for 12 races, I think this makes the most sense, even though stupid Kansas will make it in someway. I also want to say that Mid-Ohio will get in, but I have no idea what to drop for them.
 
What the hell. I'll take a shot at it

Daytona Jan 25

Laguna Seca Feb 14 or fall

Sebring March 12 Confirmed ? http://www.sebringraceway.com/ http://sebringraceway.com/12hr_tickets.lasso

Long Beach April 11

Mid-Ohio May 16

Le Mans/spring break

Watkins Glen July 4

Indianapolis July 25

Road America Aug 8

fall break

VIR Sept 5

Circuit of the America's Sept 19 WEC

Mosport Oct 5

Road Atlanta Oct 17

Barber has an Indy deal but Birmingham is backing out of ($) supporting it.
Doesn't sound good for another race series.

Detroit is going bankrupt so probably no race unless the state leases the park, and so far it's not looking good.

Lime Rock's deals with ALMS and Grand_Am end this year.
With that knowledge and it's size I would believe it's off the schedule.

Kansas has a deal for this year only at this time.

Baltimore is promoted by Andretti and funding for a title sponsor has been eluded again this year.
 
Detroit GP not affected by bankruptcy.

Indy agrees to at least three more years at Barber even though Birmingham may not be financially supporting it.

The problem with both events is that they'll be playing second fiddle to the IndyCar, though Barber could easily host the series as a premier event on another date. It should be noted that Barber's event has been backed by Porsche who have their Driving Experience at the track. While it's not concrete, I could see that as playing in to them returning. It's also a beautiful and modern facility.

And Kansas is expecting two events, not one. And while I don't know how much this merits, the CEO of Penn National Gaming, who run the Hollywood Hotel Casino and help promote events at Kansas, races a Ferrari 458 in Ferrari Challenge. Depending on how much say he has, we know that there'll be at least one avid road racer demanding an event from the Kansas party. It's also an ISC track.
 
My prediction:

Daytona-late January
COTA-mid February
Sebring-mid March
Belle isle-late April
Mosport-early May
Watkins Glen-early June
Road America-late June
Long beach-mid July
Indy-early August
Mid-Ohio-early September
Laguna seca-late September
Road Atlanta-mid October
 
My prediction:

Daytona-late January
COTA-mid February
Sebring-mid March
Belle isle-late April
Mosport-early May
Watkins Glen-early June
Road America-late June
Long beach-mid July
Indy-early August
Mid-Ohio-early September
Laguna seca-late September
Road Atlanta-mid October

I think mid Ohio would be earlier... Starts getting chilly round here then
 
polarbear345
I think mid Ohio would be earlier... Starts getting chilly round here then

Yea it could go right before Watkins Glen. In 2011 or 2012 mid-o was the Rolex series finale.
 
Late September Laguna would be nice. It would get dark earlier, so if they went back to the 6 hour race, it may finish at night...

I think the Long Beach date is set in stone for the next few years by the City, is it not?
 
hawkeye122
Late September Laguna would be nice. It would get dark earlier, so if they went back to the 6 hour race, it may finish at night...

I think the Long Beach date is set in stone for the next few years by the City, is it not?

Great minds think alike ;)
 
Great minds think alike ;)

Heck, it'd be cool to close the season with a 12 hour or so race. But running right against Petit? I doubt it.

I remember in 2011(?) the MRLS was 6 hours, and thats when Aston Martin brought their Lola back out, in preparation for Petit Le Mans. With a P2-only field, I dont think it's outside the realm of possibility that we could see a P2 team from the WEC come over for both races, as long as their schedule has a break in between. PLM stands alone in terms of bragging rights, and a 6 hour shakedown with the different BOP at Laguna would help that a lot.
 
hawkeye122
Heck, it'd be cool to close the season with a 12 hour or so race. But running right against Petit? I doubt it.

I remember in 2011(?) the MRLS was 6 hours, and thats when Aston Martin brought their Lola back out, in preparation for Petit Le Mans. With a P2-only field, I dont think it's outside the realm of possibility that we could see a P2 team from the WEC come over for both races, as long as their schedule has a break in between. PLM stands alone in terms of bragging rights, and a 6 hour shakedown with the different BOP at Laguna would help that a lot.

A west coast endurance race would be nice even though I live on the east coast. The four biggest endurance races are all more/less on the eastern seaboard. Tapping into the west coast market is a must.
 
Did some comparison times from DTM vs. ELMS P2's from the A1 Ring...

BEST LAP OF RACE-
DTM; 1:25.505. ELMS LMP2; 1:24.337

QUALIFYING POLE POSITION-
DTM; 1:24.836. ELMS LMP2; 1:23.737

If GA moves towards a car thats relatively close to GT500/DTM for future DP, they just need a bit more power and non-spec tires to be the same pace as lmp2. GT500 is currently faster than lmp2. They have more power and better tires by far. This is something they should really consider.
 
You do realize the American dtm is put off until at least 2017 which will be after the 2016 specs come out...
 
You do realize the American dtm is put off until at least 2017 which will be after the 2016 specs come out...
Do you read before you hit reply? Let me highlight the key words for you...
Did some comparison times from DTM vs. ELMS P2's from the A1 Ring...

BEST LAP OF RACE-
DTM; 1:25.505. ELMS LMP2; 1:24.337

QUALIFYING POLE POSITION-
DTM; 1:24.836. ELMS LMP2; 1:23.737

If GA moves towards a car thats relatively close to GT500/DTM for future DP, they just need a bit more power and non-spec tires to be the same pace as lmp2. GT500 is currently faster than lmp2. They have more power and better tires by far. This is something they should really consider.
 
Why would they move to a spec closer to dtm when they're moving to aco p2 spec? I still don't get what you're saying
 
The DP's are not moving to P2 spec. The 'DTM series' is suppose to feature 5 maybe 6 manufacturers (depending on Honda). GA should really consider using that spec as 'DP' in the future since it's ALREADY close to P2 pace (theyre keeping P2 for the ACO link). So DP's move to GT500/DTM regs for the near future and the P2's can race alongside. DTM is part spec as is, so you don't have to complain the costs are out of control or whatever the reason you fancy DP now.
 
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