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albteman015
I love how you assumed I was going to d2 lol. I did not mention what division I was going to in my post. :)
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I made no assumptions. I looked here.

Handlebar
The settings change helped me quite a bit. I tried the 450 (or whatever was close to that). Hairpins were less a wrestling match with the wheel and closer to driving.

I tried the smallest setting and did not do well with that in finesse areas. My hands of stone needed a bit more leeway.

Great find, dragonwhisky!
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How exactly did you get it to change. There were some folks in D3 last night that tried the button combos and reported no difference.
 
albteman015
Sorry I did not race last night. I had an interesting weekend. I also see that you d3 guys got rid of me already? How come? I only raced there twice
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albteman, with your promotion to D2 I needed to make room for a new person to race in the performance cap race tonight. If you still need access to D3 let me know.

Zero,

Maybe we need a dedicated cap lounge:idea:
 
I went to my practice area, took a Premium Car, interior (hands) view.

It took several tries. I think a sequential push-hold, Select, then Start, then Square was the combo.

Measured diff based on driver hand position vs my wheel movement.
 
jobyone
albteman, with your promotion to D2 I needed to make room for a new person to race in the performance cap race tonight. If you still need access to D3 let me know.

Zero,

Maybe we need a dedicated cap lounge:idea:
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Unless I get demoted again, I doubt I need it.
 
Thank you for all D4 guys for a tough competition in all 3 races. I enjoyed myself racing for the first time in D4 and look forward to racing in D4 in the future.
 
Handlebar
The settings change helped me quite a bit. I tried the 450 (or whatever was close to that). Hairpins were less a wrestling match with the wheel and closer to driving.

I tried the smallest setting and did not do well with that in finesse areas. My hands of stone needed a bit more leeway.

Great find, dragonwhiskey!
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I couldnt change the settings on my dfgt. I tried several times to change them and they wouldnt work. HELP LOL
 
albteman015
Sorry I did not race last night. I had an interesting weekend. I also see that you d3 guys got rid of me already? How come? I only raced there twice
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I think the only reason you were demoted from D2 in the first place was because you were transitioning from the DS3 to a wheel. However, the two times you raced in D3, you showed that your "transition period" was clearly over.. :sly:

jobyone
albteman, with your promotion to D2 I needed to make room for a new person to race in the performance cap race tonight. If you still need access to D3 let me know.

Zero,

Maybe we need a dedicated cap lounge:idea:
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I'll clear out some inactives from the D3 friends list later tonight. I like the having lounges that serve multiple purposes though. Unless you meant that you wanted to move cap racing to the D4 or D5 lounge?
 
Awesome Racing in Division 3 last night guys! It was my first night in division 3 as it was for the other guys that came in as well. Lots of fun! Finally getting used to the short lap races! Thanks Snails! See you on the grid next sunday! 👍
 
Here are the official results from our league night on August 4, 2013

Click here for detailed results and statistics

Division 1
  1. martin20az -------- voted to eliminate Round 3 85 points (81.59 for prize purposes only)
  2. GTP_Worst_Driver -- voted to eliminate Round 1
  3. OwensRacing ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. Garage-father ----- voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. QwietStorm03 ------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  6. dangerzone641 ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. nmcp1 ------------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  8. z06fun ------------ did not submit a vote
  9. Nic-KL ------------ did not submit a vote
  10. dgafaboutany1420 -- did not submit a vote
  • dabneyd ----------- DNR
  • JoeyFast22 -------- DNR
  • Da_Panda_Bear ----- DNR
  • Ice_Warden -------- DNR
  • GTP_Benz-27 ------- DNR
  • SPEED14231234 ----- DNR
  • hillracing -------- DNR
  • Adventuruss ------- DNR
  • BerdiyevA --------- DNR
  • GumballCGT -------- DNR
  • VELOCI_2NR -------- DNR
  • kendawg198 -------- DNR
  • racefan78 --------- DNR
  • serge_1919 -------- DNR
  • RickyBobbyV8 ------ DNR
  • redsoxboy80 ------- DNR
  • WiiFreak ---------- DNR
Division 2
  1. zegrated ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2 84 points (79.77 for prize purposes only)
  2. Drrgreenthumb67 --- voted to eliminate Round 2
  3. GCarneiroBR ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. jlbowler ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  5. tcrash15 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  6. AG07WRXTR --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. kcheeb ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  8. SoCalRacer310 ----- voted to eliminate Round 2
  9. DrKronin ---------- did not submit a vote
  • albtifosi --------- DNR
  • jmoneykillaz09 ---- DNR
  • AJK-VAIL ---------- DNR
  • VAG_star ---------- DNR
  • ND_4_SPD_Naruto --- DNR
  • FaelForna --------- DNR
  • patriot-1128 ------ DNR
  • GTP_Wins ---------- DNR
  • Diabolicwyvern ---- DNR
Division 3
  1. ONESPACE ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1 79 points (88.12 for Prize A)
  2. schmiggz ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  3. GTP_Ph7shr -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  4. GTP_XR_RACER_11 --- voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. Xrad-11 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  6. o10231994 --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. dragonwhisky ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  8. tezgm99 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  9. chatva ------------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  10. Sandblazter ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  11. rallywgn81 -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  12. The2ArmedMen ------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  13. Wolfsatz ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  14. JJLopez_427 ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  • moperlover -------- DNR
  • Oshawa-Joe -------- DNR
  • HusamOne ---------- DNR
  • GTSuchiiyaSan ----- DNR
  • cheechoo777 ------- DNR
  • zer05ive ---------- DNR
Division 4
  1. Bandit0627 -------- voted to eliminate Round 1 85 points (85.51 for Prize C)
  2. VrapPlus ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  3. TEX-36 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  4. ExoSphere64 ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  5. Deadbrah ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  6. kkoe -------------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  7. canuckleheadII ---- voted to eliminate Round 2
  8. ChuthuluGoat ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  9. RacingChamp30 ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
  10. SoundTiger95 ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  11. Skills_19657 ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  • fereck ------------ DNR
  • floor_tom --------- DNR
  • GTP_pyxen --------- DNR
  • JESter82178 ------- DNR
  • steppenwolf111 ---- DNR
  • AJHG1000 ---------- DNR
  • edwin1017 --------- DNR
  • whatbadgerseat ---- DNR
  • otakukid965 ------- DNR
  • iroquois-- -------- DNR
  • lifesagamble420 --- DNR
  • Vol_Jbolaz -------- DNR
  • GranStand_Bill ---- DNR
Division 5
  1. Priest8 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2 88 points (85.75 for Prize B)
  2. myato1 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  3. cmbeal317 --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  4. hooker4 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  5. Handlebar-Man ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
  6. raymann500 -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  7. RafaelR_13 -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  8. SCREAMING_CHIEF --- voted to eliminate Round 2
  9. EAO-HarleyMan ----- did not submit a vote
  10. JRumley ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  11. Driftin_Assassin -- did not submit a vote
  • THRASH_46 --------- DNR
  • Fabricio98 -------- DNR
  • georgeleo99 ------- DNR
  • COL_KLINK01 ------- DNR
  • DigiImprov -------- DNR
  • flesxruoyxllik ---- DNR
  • RJ_Whitlock_9mm --- DNR
  • nerf058 ----------- DNR
  • ffbbsou812 -------- DNR
  • PICHON617 --------- DNR
  • nateral00 --------- DNR
  • patmanattack ------ DNR
  • DADYGERAR --------- DNR
The round that received the most elimination votes was:
ROUND 2 - Honda S2000 LM Race Car @Cape Ring
Therefore the entire combo has been dropped from next week's line-up. Since ONESPACE wins Prize A, he gets to choose an entirely new car and track combo to replace it.

The round that received the second most votes was:
ROUND 3 - Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74 @Trial Mountain Circuit
This means either the car or the track will be replaced for next week's line-up. Since Priest8 gets Prize B, he gets to decide which part of the combo is replaced and what replaces it.

Price C goes to Bandit0627 so he gets any gift car ticket listed here (by posting his selection here on the thread).
 
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Something I've been thinking about. Those total points and the factor involved. We really need to add another factor. One that adds in the completion level.


Say the points spread from 1st and 2nd or 1st and 3rd used to determine a multiplier.


Examples-

D1
1st 64 points
2nd 63 points

1 difference. Take 1% off total after the current multiplier.

D2
1st 90
2nd 80

10 difference. Take 10% off total after the current multiplier.

This would be a competition factor adjustment.

Basically those dominate in their Division are capitalizing on the prize picks from the divisions that have closer matched racers. Which result in lower overall scores.

The D3 race being so close and tight put them way out of contention this week. This to said they had the hardest battles for the win. I think D1 was really close too. Have to look.

Edit: D1 was 0.1 Separated 1st and 2nd and 1.1 separated 1st and 3rd.

I think the 1st to 3rd gap is a better indicator for this factor number.

Just an idea. Ignore if stupid.
 
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Next Event Info !!!​

August 6TH (9pm), 2013 Line Up:​

Car: Formula GT ( 900 PP, 936HP, Race Medium Tires)

Track 1: Spa ( 9 Laps)
Track 2: Road Course Indy ( 13 Laps)
Track 3: Special Stage Route 5 (15 Laps)


Post in the Shoot Out thread if you plan on joining us.
 
Saturday afternoon I raced Go-Kart on a outside track for the first time in my life ( usually on a inside track) I enjoyed so much and I raced in the rain for 10 min( scarry and funny) of my 1 hour of Go-Kart but I forget my racing gloves and I had a big blister on the right hand =(. I did the 2nd best time of the day here (me 1:17.7 and 1st 1:16.6) and I was so happy and exausted. With last nite racing I got a reload of energy for the week. (= (= (=.
 
Division 3 will never get the chance to win a prize!!!
Why?
Because as anyone could see, we barely get more than 65 ridiculous points!!!
Why?
Because it's such a godamm leveled division..... I LOVE IT
 
OwensRacing
PLEASE READ:

Something I've been thinking about. Those total points and the factor involved. We really need to add another factor. One that adds in the completion level.


Say the points spread from 1st and 2nd or 1st and 3rd used to determine a multiplier.


Examples-

D1
1st 64 points
2nd 63 points

1 difference. Take 1% off total after the current multiplier.

D2
1st 90
2nd 80

10 difference. Take 10% off total after the current multiplier.

This would be a competition factor adjustment.

Basically those dominate in their Division are capitalizing on the prize picks from the divisions that have closer matched racers. Which result in lower overall scores.

The D3 race being so close and tight put them way out of contention this week. This to said they had the hardest battles for the win. I think D1 was really close too. Have to look.

Edit: D1 was 0.1 Separated 1st and 2nd and 1.1 separated 1st and 3rd.

I think the 1st to 3rd gap is a better indicator for this factor number.

Just an idea. Ignore if stupid.
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While you're idea has merit, we all know from the previous discussion, prior to implemenation of the current Prize Point System, I am categorically against points adjustment based on participation, either by quantity or quality.

With that said.

The tightness of the scores for overall League Night Divisional Winners indicates the Promotion and Relegation system is doing exactly what it was designed for, which is to provide close racing.

It isn't an instant system and is capable of being manipulated by "sand bagging", either your initial Time Trial or during a season of races. As time goes by however, and more seasons are run, this will fix itself and these tight races for overall winner are an indication that it is in fact fixing itself. These lower overall scores should be the rule, not the exception.

I don't think the current scoring system needs much, if any, further tweaking.

And as Shmiggz already said, having an overall winner scoring less than 70 points and 1st - 4th place being within 5 points of each other is a good indication that your division is about as balanced as it can be. Division 3 Wins that contest. :P
 
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OwensRacing
PLEASE READ:

Something I've been thinking about. Those total points and the factor involved. We really need to add another factor. One that adds in the completion level.

Edit: D1 was 0.1 Separated 1st and 2nd and 1.1 separated 1st and 3rd.

I think the 1st to 3rd gap is a better indicator for this factor number.

Just an idea. Ignore if stupid.
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I think the participation multiplier should be used on the avg number of racers per race, not the total number of 'dropped by for 1-2 races' being counted equally. But that is about allI would change.

YMMV.
 
Handlebar
I think the participation multiplier should be used on the avg number of racers per race, not the total number of 'dropped by for 1-2 races' being counted equally. But that is about allI would change.

YMMV.
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It already is done that way. Drivers that don't race the entire night are not counted the same as drivers that do. The participation multiplier is derived from the actual number of racers in each race. At least that's the way it is intended to work and how KCheeb set it up to work originally. I would assume that no changes have been made since it was implemented.
 
JLBowler
It already is done that way. Drivers that don't race the entire night are not counted the same as drivers that do. The participation multiplier is derived from the actual number of racers in each race. At least that's the way it is intended to work and how KCheeb set it up to work originally. I would assume that no changes have been made since it was implemented.
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Then... It is clearly working like I had hoped!

Good job, data-dudes.

D3 Replays are not uploaded yet. We definitely need them ASAP from the Steward-side!
 
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Handlebar
I will double check in a bit. I may have had a placebo change...
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Not sure if this applies, but watch the front wheels, not the guy turning, he will only turn so much. The wheels generally keep turning after his hands stop. Use one of the formula cars as you can see his hands and the wheels.
 
D3 replays races 1-4 and 6 have been uploaded. I got DCed during race 5 so someone who did get it will have to get that one uploaded.

Hopefully, I did it right.
 
bandit0627
Are prize winners free to announce their decisions?
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There's still 2.5 hours left to file a complaint. Dragon will announce if they're clear at 10 PM Eastern time ish.
 
bandit0627
Are prize winners free to announce their decisions?
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The window to file a racing complaint doesn't even close until 10pm ET. It will not be known until at least that time if the prize winners are clear to make a selection.

Once that information is known, DragonWhiskey will be along with an official announcement.
 

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