- 4,499
- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
The cool thing about the series is seeing all different drivetrains on the track at the same time. Different racing lines etc.
◆ SNAIL [DriveTrain Challenge - DTC] Racing - Closed
- Thread starter jobyone
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- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
Likes:
1. The people who race in this series (x1000)
2. The random cars I drive which I would never have driven if not for this series
3. Being a slow driver in a fast car allows me to follow and study how a fast driver in a slow car handles a given car/drive layout/track
Dislikes:
1. We end around 12 am and I start work at 5 am
2. Overuse of some cars
I will expand on this more tomorrow when I am at a computer, but I have a couple ideas for lineup tweaks and other general thoughts.
- 1,106
- Georgia
- Kendawg198
Likes:
1. I'm learning French and other Bozie languages.
2. It is a laid back fun racing night
3. Picking my own cars and tracks if you get a win.
Dislikes:
1. We only run one night. Would like a second night with a different scenario.
2. Running out of beer with more racing ahead.
1. I'm learning French and other Bozie languages.
2. It is a laid back fun racing night
3. Picking my own cars and tracks if you get a win.
Dislikes:
1. We only run one night. Would like a second night with a different scenario.
2. Running out of beer with more racing ahead.
- 2,012
- Cranbrook, BC
- tezgm99
I'll probably be stealing some from above but hey, too bad 
Like:
1 - The variety of cars that can be picked.
2 - Able to race wheel to wheel with people I know who are faster/slower than me but are in a worse/better car for that particular race.
3 - The casual nature of the event.
Dislike:
1 - Not being able to test a car before buying it....have some absolute rubbish in my garage which won't be used ever
2 - Using your lowest PP car when everyone else saved their best (or vice versa)....not very fun racing by yourself.
Like:
1 - The variety of cars that can be picked.
2 - Able to race wheel to wheel with people I know who are faster/slower than me but are in a worse/better car for that particular race.
3 - The casual nature of the event.
Dislike:
1 - Not being able to test a car before buying it....have some absolute rubbish in my garage which won't be used ever
2 - Using your lowest PP car when everyone else saved their best (or vice versa)....not very fun racing by yourself.
- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
Ok, here goes...
I have been racing in this series just about every week for the past year, maybe even a little longer. As far as consistency and speed, I have probably improved leaps and bounds. One of the biggest reasons I have improved, I feel, is GT6's physics engine. I found it gave me much more feedback through the wheel, the suspension models were much more predictable and the tire compounds seem to have much more grip. In GT5 I think I had maybe three nights where I wasn't dead last or second to last. These days I can at least stay middle of the pack for most weeks and having probably 100 hours of DTC racing tends to help. Do anything enough times and you start to at least get decent at it.
All that being said, the atmosphere of our DTC races and the people who race here are amazing. There is a collective goal of speed with control, respect for one another and the chance for anyone to win a given race. I feel as if I likely could have improved my racecraft and speed much more quickly had I run Sunday Nights or any other spec event with the ability to gauge myself against others in the same exact car, but I'm glad I stuck with this series. I don't take two hours out of my life each week for the drama that can be brought about by a video game linked with an online forum. I use that two hours a week to race with a bunch of car nuts like me who want to do some laid back racing in cars we picked because we wanted to race them.
Joby has found an interesting way of matching strategy with speed, luck and patience. If you pick every overdog car, fight competitors through the first turn of a 15 minute race and/or start to get any anger towards the game then you are doing it wrong. There are no prizes here. There are no incident reports here. We race for fun and we enjoy what we do. Bad racecraft is not tolerated because it has no place in this type of event. Even with a 5% spread this week, you could be seeing a GT300 RX-7 at 512pp racing with a Trial Celica at 467pp. This should be treated like a multi-class race with as much sportsmanship and courteous driving as possible.
Considering this is the only series I race in (more because I can only steal the TV for two hours a week than saying I wouldn't want to race more) I put in almost an hour each day looking into a lineup or if I'm lucky, testing some cars. I like driving different cars. I like discovering cars I didn't even know were competitive. Many cars in GT6 are much improved or in some cases, are worse than in GT5 so I get to drive even more cars (I should have done that damn money glitch).
So, with all that in mind, here are some thoughts on spicing up the lineups:
- The last three people in the night's final results pick the lineups for the top three finishers the following week
- We institute one restriction per week on the lineup, i.e. you must use one car from the 60's, or no cars from Honda, etc.
- We make 5 or 6 lineups before hand and then randomly distribute them to the drivers an hour before the race
- We make a draft process where the last place finisher picks their lineup first, then second-to-last picks and so on until the first place finisher has to pick from any remaining cars (within reason depending on the PP for the night)
I will close by saying that no matter what changes, if any, are made, the series at its core will remain the same. I have said it before, but as a group, we could be racing the worst combo of car and track you could think of and we would still have fun doing it. Remember that one race at the Twin Ring Oval where all of us were in FF cars? Just about everyone was in the Trial Celica (I think) and it was awesome. There are other nights where I get to race wheel to wheel with Ken, not because I'm as fast as him but because I'm in a faster car and I get a chance to learn how he's faster.
Anyway, end of ramblings. See you on track Tuesday.
- 1,106
- Georgia
- Kendawg198
You're spot on Koszak with the first part. The second part let me suggest this.
The core of DTC should not change. Joby and the rest of us have done a great job at making this series great. We all would like to do some things different to make it alittle more interesting. My biggest thing is having a second night. So taking what you're saying lets do it something like this.
If we could do a second night. The winner of the Tuesday night has to run the lineup to the last place guy. Second has to run the lineup of the next guy up and etc. There wouldn't be any qualifying. The last place racer from Tuesday night gets the pole.
Now I understand it would take everyone from Tuesday night to do this. And you might have guys that want to run the second night but can't run the Tuesday night. Here is where we would have to put our ideas together and come up with the rules. We would just keep score of finishing order only to see who has the win.
PS. You are getting better and faster. It takes consistency and staying on the track.
The core of DTC should not change. Joby and the rest of us have done a great job at making this series great. We all would like to do some things different to make it alittle more interesting. My biggest thing is having a second night. So taking what you're saying lets do it something like this.
If we could do a second night. The winner of the Tuesday night has to run the lineup to the last place guy. Second has to run the lineup of the next guy up and etc. There wouldn't be any qualifying. The last place racer from Tuesday night gets the pole.
Now I understand it would take everyone from Tuesday night to do this. And you might have guys that want to run the second night but can't run the Tuesday night. Here is where we would have to put our ideas together and come up with the rules. We would just keep score of finishing order only to see who has the win.
PS. You are getting better and faster. It takes consistency and staying on the track.
- 3,346
- Albania
well, i finally decided to grab the bull by the horns so i did the red bull standard and the Vettel preety succesfully I would say so, suddenly I had 4 million credits and what did I do? I bought another ton of cars and as a result, I completely changed my set up for tomorrow but still without the HSC although I own one.
and as a result, I completely changed my set up for tomorrow but still without the HSC although I own one.
- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
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Tuesday Race Night
(Event will take place in a friends only room)
03/25/2014 at 10:00 PM EST/ 7:00 pm PST
This event will run with a combined PP of:
1950 (SS)
All cars PP must be between 463 and 512
Qualifying and the first race will take place at
Tokyo R246
If you would like to participate in the next event please post in this thread that you would like to take part. I will add your name to the list. You can also add your name and car lineup to the:
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All cars PP must be between 463 and 512 with sports soft tires and no tuning.
Please make sure you are friends on PSN with Ice_Warden prior to 9pm EST the day of the race.
Feel free to post any questions in this thread.
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@Wolfsatz
Tuesday Race Night
(Event will take place in a friends only room)
03/25/2014 at 10:00 PM EST/ 7:00 pm PST
This event will run with a combined PP of:
1950 (SS)
All cars PP must be between 463 and 512
Qualifying and the first race will take place at
Tokyo R246
If you would like to participate in the next event please post in this thread that you would like to take part. I will add your name to the list. You can also add your name and car lineup to the:
sign up sheet
All cars PP must be between 463 and 512 with sports soft tires and no tuning.
Please make sure you are friends on PSN with Ice_Warden prior to 9pm EST the day of the race.
Feel free to post any questions in this thread.
- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
This week's Reasonably Priced DTC lineup is brought to you by Dr. Pepper:
And also:
As well as:
And also:
All for you @tezgm99
FF - Honda Integra Type R Touring Car 478pp 75,000cr.
4WD - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII MR GSR '04 482pp 33,980cr.
FR - Chevy Camaro SS '10 505pp 35,000cr.
MR - TommyKaira ZZ-S '00 483pp 59,500cr.
Total: 203,480cr
104.45cr / Performance Point
And also:
As well as:
And also:
All for you @tezgm99
FF - Honda Integra Type R Touring Car 478pp 75,000cr.
4WD - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII MR GSR '04 482pp 33,980cr.
FR - Chevy Camaro SS '10 505pp 35,000cr.
MR - TommyKaira ZZ-S '00 483pp 59,500cr.
Total: 203,480cr
104.45cr / Performance Point
- 158
- Chicago
- danfurey
Quick question: Is the Ferrari GTO CN3729 worth it for the price? I only have 800K right now and I don't have a lot of time to earn credits and practice before tomorrow. I could go and grind some cash for the this car, but I would hate to find out it wasn't even worth it the 20M in credits. Thanks!
PS: I'm gonna set up a practice room tonight if anyone wants to join
PS: I'm gonna set up a practice room tonight if anyone wants to join
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- 158
- Chicago
- danfurey
"Oh no...I've crashed it. I've crashed it almost immediately."
Watch that corner there guys. While it's tempting, don't cut in too far!
Practice room up!
Watch that corner there guys. While it's tempting, don't cut in too far!
Practice room up!
- 4,499
- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
The GTO is a fantastic car. Handles great and is fast as well. The only downfall is, due to its age, it spins one tire in the corners. The car is difficult to spin out but you do lose some time.
Great car..much better than the pos multi million Alfa racer.
Great car..much better than the pos multi million Alfa racer.
- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
I will finalize my testing this afternoon after work, but this is likely my lineup:
FF - Honda Integra Type R RM '04 484pp
4WD - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII RS '03 485pp
FR - Toyota Altezza Touring Car 492pp
MR - Esprit V8 SE '02 489pp
Can we all agree to a brief brainstorming session after the races are over? It will be easier to discuss any changes in the lobby than here. Would you be able to make that around 9pm pacific @jobyone?
FF - Honda Integra Type R RM '04 484pp
4WD - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII RS '03 485pp
FR - Toyota Altezza Touring Car 492pp
MR - Esprit V8 SE '02 489pp
Can we all agree to a brief brainstorming session after the races are over? It will be easier to discuss any changes in the lobby than here. Would you be able to make that around 9pm pacific @jobyone?
- 3,334
- NJ
- koszak27
I wholeheartedly concur my friend.
To all participants, please make sure you are PSN friends with Ice_Warden and have any friend requests out 1 hour prior to the race or 9pm/6pm. Thanks.
@PD/Sony,
Please don't ruin the first race for me again. That would be 3 times in the last 4 weeks and I would likely have even higher blood pressure as a result. Thanks.
