◆ SNAIL [DriveTrain Challenge - DTC] Racing - Closed

[88GTA]

@jobyone
I couldn't get on last night but cars will be entered after work today.

 

[IceWarden]

Mooooteeeegiiii...roundy round.


Come on.

 

[88GTA]

Sounds good Joe. I will update and clear the sign-up tab. Sports medium first split and sports soft 2nd, right?

 

[tezgm99]

Are you going to wait until we start qualifying to pick your lineup? That would be a tuffy

Could be worse, Joe could have waited until we start qualifying to pick the track

 

[IceWarden]

Could be worse, Joe could have waited until we start qualifying to pick the track

That could be one of the new winner prize options Opponents do not know qualifying track until they hit the track.

 

[JLBowler]

What is the official verdict on tuner cars. It was said that the Nismo was OK. Are all Nismo's OK as they are a factory arm of Nissan? What about Amuse and Mugen? They aren't factory associated like Nismo? What about Gran Turismo? Their cars are fictional builds so I would assume they are out.

If we go with street legal and available for sale then all those companies would be open to be used as they sold and or built the car for someone to drive on the street with the exception of Gran Turismo.

Need a ruling so I can put a line up together.

 

[88GTA]

@JLBowler
This is in no way a ruling, but my initial thought when someone says "production only" was that it had to roll off the assembly line and be sold by a dealer. I imagine that rules out a tuner which took a production car and then modified it.

 

[IceWarden]

So Nismo, SRT (and the like) is a Yes and Opera, Spoon and Mugen (and the like) is a No?

 

[88GTA]

That would be my understanding of production but I don't make the rules. Perhaps @kendawg could elaborate on what exactly his production car restriction limits.

 

[JLBowler]

Nismo and SRT are even handled differently. Nismo took existing Nissans from the factory and altered them and then sold them. SRT cars roll off the factory assembly in their SRT state. SRT is the same as Ford and their SHO / SVO / SVT, they come off the factory line that way. Shelby falls in line with NISMO in this respect as they take cars off the assembly line and alter them. Callaway would be the same. None of these companies (Nismo, Callaway, or Shelby with some exceptions) build cars from the ground up. They just take existing cars and alter them.

 

[tezgm99]

From Ken's post yesterday; no concepts, rally or race cars.

I'm taking that as meaning everything else is fair game.

 

[88GTA]

@jobyone
All cars from Tuesday are entered.

Tracks were (in order):
Autumn Ring Mini
Brands Hatch '80s
Daytona Speedway
Suzuka

 

[kendawg]

I still don't know the qualifying track.. (cough cough)

 

[kendawg]

If your having trouble picking cars (Joe) I will pick a lineup for you.

 

[88GTA]

I still don't know the qualifying track.. (cough cough)

Motegi Oval

 

[tezgm99]

Good news! The rest of my stuff I left with friends may be arriving today....gives me the weekend to find something the chair/wheelstand won't slip on the wooden floor in my apartment if I want to return to my DFGT in time for Tuesday.

 

[88GTA]

Good news! The rest of my stuff I left with friends may be arriving today....gives me the weekend to find something the chair/wheelstand won't slip on the wooden floor in my apartment if I want to return to my DFGT in time for Tuesday.

Damn now you will definitely be flying past me instead of us being evenly matched with you on the DS3.

 

[IceWarden]

I still don't know the qualifying track.. (cough cough)

Sheesh...keep up next time ok?

 

[88GTA]

Sheesh...keep up next time ok?

He still hasn't answered us for which cars so I'm just going by what tez said:

From Ken's post yesterday; no concepts, rally or race cars.

I'm taking that as meaning everything else is fair game.

 

[tezgm99]

He still hasn't answered us for which cars so I'm just going by what tez said:

But he did like my post, therefore I must have been correct

 

[88GTA]

But he did like my post, therefore I must have been correct

We will never know...

 

[kendawg]

From Ken's post yesterday; no concepts, rally or race cars.

I'm taking that as meaning everything else is fair game.

Tez understands.

 

[tezgm99]

DFGT is set up....just need a chair for it now

 

[88GTA]

@jobyone
Can you update the scoring tab for tomorrow night? Thanks.

 

[IceWarden]

@jobyone
Can you update the scoring tab for tomorrow night? Thanks.

YEAH! Mo Fugga!

 

[IceWarden]

So...I am taking a little break from Sunday night chaos and I'm thinking of another night to run something with you guys (my wife allows me two nights a week). Is Monday night a good night for some of us to get together and come up with a good idea for a race night...in addition to DTC of course.

 

[jobyone]

Sheets/post updated

 

[jobyone]

Nismo and SRT are even handled differently. Nismo took existing Nissans from the factory and altered them and then sold them. SRT cars roll off the factory assembly in their SRT state. SRT is the same as Ford and their SHO / SVO / SVT, they come off the factory line that way. Shelby falls in line with NISMO in this respect as they take cars off the assembly line and alter them. Callaway would be the same. None of these companies (Nismo, Callaway, or Shelby with some exceptions) build cars from the ground up. They just take existing cars and alter them.

To my Knowledge NISMO is an arm of Nissan (like AMG is to MB). So you could walk in to a Nissan dealership and order the Nismo 400r.

Depending on the Callaway model they were in fact a Regular Production Option (RPO) B2K and could be ordered from select dealers in the US Corvette dealers. Now the c12 is a challenge. I believe that they were also built in Germany by an actual manufacture so are considered a street legal production car in germany.

The R390 is also a challenge. Legally they had to build at least one street legal version and sell it. Supposedly they did this. So assuming they are not lying it counts.

Feel free to disagree but bring some evidence to support your argument.

 

[jobyone]

So...I am taking a little break from Sunday night chaos and I'm thinking of another night to run something with you guys (my wife allows me two nights a week). Is Monday night a good night for some of us to get together and come up with a good idea for a race night...in addition to DTC of course.

I would run with you guys any night assuming the timing works which unfortunately it rarely does for me What are some of your ideas?

 

[IceWarden]

I'm thinking that choosing one off cars like the R390 is probably not in the spirit of the regs