◆ SNAIL [Spec] Racing - Currently Recruiting for GT7 - JOIN TODAY!!Open
- Thread starter zer05ive
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- Dearborn, MI
- weaver-2009_
I missed the first 2 races and was kind of bummed about being kicked the last couple weeks anyway but tonights racing made up for it. I had some great "races within races" with several people and for the most part drove well. Thanks to Cmbeal for making me sweat at Fuji (your ass is mine next week).
Anyway a huge thanks to everyone that makes SNAIL happen.
Anyway a huge thanks to everyone that makes SNAIL happen.
- 188
- Colombia
- KuulKriine
Tonigh was the most intensive racing since im a snail.. had to vote for london but i loved london.. :S
Exelent end of the season..
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Exelent end of the season..
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- 5,902
- Texas
- zer05ive
Wholly crap! Thanks D4 for some of the best and most intense racing I've ever had. I don't think I'll sleep for a while.
I missed the first 2 races and was kind of bummed about being kicked the last couple weeks anyway but tonights racing made up for it. I had some great "races within races" with several people and for the most part drove well. Thanks to Cmbeal for making me sweat (sweat is intense) at Fuji (your ass is mine next week).
Anyway a huge thanks to everyone that makes SNAIL happen.
Tonigh was the most intensive racing since im a snail.. had to vote for london but i loved london.. :S
Exelent end of the season..
Word of the night:
INTENSE!!
- 330
- Dearborn, MI
- weaver-2009_
- 7,689
- Michigan
- Rallywgn81
I raced sooo BAD!, sorry d3 for my antics. I wasnt well rested for the night and just kept losing my focus. On top of it, this is my first night racing on this account, and I've set things up a little different then the last, and that was causing me issue as well. I'll be surprised not to see a complaint or two against myself, and I would probably file on myself, but I wont be able to get the complaints in on time. Sorry again fellas.
Oh right, and london, what was all the fuss about? Rounds 1 and 2 were both great! Granted, passing was not really happening without a big mistake on london. AR with the lotus was RAD though. I liked that combo the most. Both rounds I was doing great too, until I lost my focus.
Oh right, and london, what was all the fuss about? Rounds 1 and 2 were both great! Granted, passing was not really happening without a big mistake on london. AR with the lotus was RAD though. I liked that combo the most. Both rounds I was doing great too, until I lost my focus.
- 1,545
- California
- Push-The-DZ
Tonight was awesome, first the giants won the world series, and then a very intense series of races and also a very close finish in the last race (0.019 seconds)
- 5,902
- Texas
- zer05ive
So does that make us the Sunday Night American INTENSE League?
We already changed the meaning of the "I" once before. I think that's the limit.
- 1,236
- Humboldt County
- ExoSphere64
Wholly crap! Thanks D4 for some of the best and most intense racing I've ever had. I don't think I'll sleep for a while.
Man that was an absolute barn burner from the start!! It was for sure one of the most exciting nights of racing I have ever had! D4 was on FIRE tonight! Thanks D4 for a very memorable night!! 👍👍👍
- 1,009
- KC Missouri
- Da_Panda_Bear
ExoSphere64
Oh yeah d4 had some real electricity in the air. EVERYONE was running the best I've seen since I joined and I had a couple of the best races of my Gt5 career!
I have NEVER been so fired up to play gt!
Can't wait for next Sunday!!!!!!
All that excitement is just from the snail races, don't even get me started on the after party
- 694
- Pennsylvania
- lifesagamble420
The racing was terrific in d4. I was under practiced, and well... A bit of the all day cocktail flu, but even battling for lower positions was a blast. Hated London, but the racing was still great. Looking forward to a new combo, and hopefully get rid of the autumn ring but keeping it around the lotus. Although Fuji is getting old as well.
- 5,902
- Texas
- zer05ive
Here are the official results from our league night on October 28th, 2012
Click here for detailed results and statistics
Division 1
ROUND 1 - Volvo C30 R-Design '09 @London / Reverse
Therefore it has been dropped from next week's line-up. Since dangerzone641 wins Prize A, he gets to decide which car and track will replace it.
The round that received the second most votes was:
ROUND 3 - Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 @Fuji Speedway GT
Therefore, either the car or the track will be replaced for next week's line-up. Since JoeyFast22 gets Prize B, he gets to decide which is replaced and what replaces it.
Price C goes to kendawg198 so he gets any gift car ticket listed here.
Click here for detailed results and statistics
Division 1
- JoeyFast22 -------- voted to eliminate Round 3 Wins Prize B (scored 94 points)
- VELOCI_2NR -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- Nic-KL ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
- gatordaryl -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- OwensRacing ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- GumballCGT -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- dgafaboutany1420 -- voted to eliminate Round 1
- SPEED14231234 ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
- jlbowler ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- hillracing -------- DNR
- carracerptp ------- DNR
- dabneyd ----------- DNR
- JazzVanWolfe ------ DNR
- doodlemonoply ----- DNR
- TSR_KOSMIC_CAN ---- DNR
- SPOLTY ------------ DNR
- ADR_BRONCO -------- DNR
- mrjones_80 -------- DNR
- GTP_dylansan ------ DNR
- Mighty_mopar ------ DNR
- QwietStorm03 ------ voted to eliminate Round 1 (scored 85 points)
- GTP_pilmat -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
- Ice_Warden -------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- AJK-VAIL ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- tcrash15 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- DrKronin ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- wackylatino ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- AG07WRXTR --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- NCemtB ------------ did not submit a vote
- Turbo91stdcivic --- did not submit a vote
- racefan78 --------- did not submit a vote
- Drrgreenthumb67 --- voted to eliminate Round 1
- albtifosi --------- DNR
- kcheeb ------------ DNR
- Oshawa-Joe -------- DNR
- Soren535 ---------- DNR
- SPIDERMANLOL1 ----- DNR
- Diabolicwyvern ---- DNR
- keepitsteady ------ DNR
- kendawg198 --------
voted to eliminate Round 2Wins Prize C (scored 86 points) - BerdiyevA --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- spooble ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
- RAM_SAM ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- zer05ive ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- GTP_BeRandom ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- Apmaddock --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- rallywgn81 -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- dragonwhisky ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- Astrias ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- ravy1316 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- moi_2212 ---------- DNR
- Luv2Coach --------- DNR
- Schmiggz ---------- DNR
- tezgm99 ----------- DNR
- Maxime0911 -------- DNR
- A_Higher_Place ---- DNR
- sethfraz22 -------- DNR
- chevbacca46 ------- DNR
- GTP_SGPracing ----- voted to eliminate Round 1 (scored 80 points)
- Da_Panda_Bear ----- voted to eliminate Round 1
- ChuthuluGoat ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- ExoSphere64 ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- GTP_mike46an2 ----- voted to eliminate Round 1
- lifesagamble420 --- voted to eliminate Round 1
- Wolfsatz ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- cmbeal317 --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- Sandblazter ------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- weaver-2009_ ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
- Skills_19657 ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- Vol_Jbolaz -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
- cosasquez --------- did not submit a vote
- jobyone ----------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- ImToLegitToQuit --- DNR
- ZohsixGT5 --------- DNR
- whatbadgerseat ---- DNR
- II-NOVA-II -------- DNR
- donconater -------- DNR
- Millerhd ---------- DNR
- sudmanster -------- DNR
- dangerzone641 -----
voted to eliminate Round 1Wins Prize A (scored 95 points) - iroquois-- -------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- KuuKriine --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- zxxCOUNT210xxz ---- voted to eliminate Round 3
- THRASH_46 --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
- TEX-36 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- Handlebar-Man ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
- iceandspice ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
- Jfin07 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- DRaKeWiLD --------- did not submit a vote
- the2armedmen ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
- OUTLAW---666 ------ DNR
- sunnypuff --------- DNR
- Obi-Tonobi -------- DNR
- jboy32 ------------ DNR
- jrumley ----------- DNR
- Priest8 ----------- DNR
- TeNsE_PwNdZ ------- DNR
- AyoManny1 --------- DNR
- g-MachineREX ------ DNR
- atongo619 --------- DNR
- SCREAMING_CHIEF --- DNR
- Wambo626 ---------- DNR
- yer_mama904 ------- DNR
ROUND 1 - Volvo C30 R-Design '09 @London / Reverse
Therefore it has been dropped from next week's line-up. Since dangerzone641 wins Prize A, he gets to decide which car and track will replace it.
The round that received the second most votes was:
ROUND 3 - Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 @Fuji Speedway GT
Therefore, either the car or the track will be replaced for next week's line-up. Since JoeyFast22 gets Prize B, he gets to decide which is replaced and what replaces it.
Price C goes to kendawg198 so he gets any gift car ticket listed here.
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- Bangalore, India
- Iceandspice
- GT6:- S.Ice
Division 5 Pictures
London - Race 1 start
Race 1 winner- iroquois
Race 2 start
Peak hour snail traffic hits narrow streets of London
Handlebar-Man leads by lap 4
Race 2 winner- THRASH_46
Autumn Ring - Race 3 starting grid
Race 3 winner - dangerzone641
Race 4 reverse grid
Race 4 winner- iroquois
Fuji Speedway GT - Race 5
Race 5 & 6, Div 5 winner - dangerzone641
London - Race 1 start
Race 1 winner- iroquois
Race 2 start
Peak hour snail traffic hits narrow streets of London
Handlebar-Man leads by lap 4
Race 2 winner- THRASH_46
Autumn Ring - Race 3 starting grid
Race 3 winner - dangerzone641
Race 4 reverse grid
Race 4 winner- iroquois
Fuji Speedway GT - Race 5
Race 5 & 6, Div 5 winner - dangerzone641
- 3,073
- Charlottesville
- dabneyd
- deadguy79
If you go to the top of the page, there's a link that says "My GTPlanet". Click that link (or this one) and the control panel is on the left. You can change your signature, avatar, and a bunch of other stuff.
- 1,573
- Rural Nebraska
- Apmaddock
It's too early to start claiming prizes, kendawg.
The window to submit complaints is currently open and will be until 10:00 Eastern tonight. If you have a complaint submitted against you and it is found to be with merit you could lose points enough to lose your first place finish and/or your prize.
The window to submit complaints is currently open and will be until 10:00 Eastern tonight. If you have a complaint submitted against you and it is found to be with merit you could lose points enough to lose your first place finish and/or your prize.
- 694
- Pennsylvania
- lifesagamble420
anyone up for some racing in a few hours. Trying to bang out some homework before this hurricane puts me up in my generator powered arc. a haha
- 1,573
- Rural Nebraska
- Apmaddock
It's been way too long since this was reposted. I've also added a couple of bits which I'll highlight in orange. The OLR section is a particularly important read, especially to new members of S.N.A.I.L. I have seen too many responses to penalties that exhibit an admittance of ignorance of the rules and, of course, ignorance is no excuse.
Read the OLR. Much of it will be obvious and tedious, but it is full of things that every driver should know. As has been evidenced by the last several weeks of racing, fast drivers are clean drivers. Knowing the rules doesn't just keep you from getting penalized, it will keep you from getting into potential incidents in the first place, and that will only help your final score.
Thank you.
We have several levels of incidents, each with their own point penalty ranges. This will allow us to better penalize people based on the scope of the incident. The levels are as follows:
Level 1: A bump. This is more than "incidental" contact. Some incidents not including direct contact may also be considered a penalty at this level. Likely this was just an accident or lapse of concentration that created an incident. 1-4 Point Penalty
Level 2: A shove. This may be the result of carrying too much speed into a corner or braking too late, causing moderate to major contact. A lack of situational awareness may have been at fault. 5-8 Point Penalty
Level 3: The offending driver was likely too aggressive in a pass, creating a situation where his car met another at a drastic difference in speed. This incident showed a lack of good racecraft. 9-12 Point Penalty
Level 4: This is an incident from which complete recovery is realistically impossible. The offending driver likely came on an overtly aggressive line or made a move that directly put others in jeopardy. There was no intent to impede or cause an incident, but the driver clearly showed a lack of judgment and a disregard for the tenets of good racecraft. 13-16 Point Penalty
Level 5: A particularly egregious incident. Intention may be believed or even known. Incidents of this caliber are race-ending and reputation-scarring. 17+ Point Penalty. This level of penalty would require extensive discussions by the Stewards and the guilty party, and would be open to any penalties as we see fit.
- Any of these penalties except for level 5 could be halved with the proper concession after the fact during the race.
- These levels are guidelines for us and you, and other penalties may be assessed as deemed necessary.
- Each of these penalties will bring about a probation period based on the level. A level 1 penalty will bring a 1 week probation period, level 2 brings 2 weeks, etc. The probation period doubles the effect of any incurred penalties.
- Multiple penalties in one week will be added to create a longer probation period: i.e. Level 1 + Level 3 penalties = 4 week probation.
- A maximum 6 week probation period can be incurred. At this point, the Stewards and the penalized racer will need to have a conversation.
- Multiple penalties during one week will not double the penalty points for that week.
Penalties for ghosting violations, or for cutting corner or going four wheels off track to gain an advantage can be reported directly to the Steward by any driver witnessing the problem without talking to the other driver first.
Stewards have the ability to assess penalties that are found during race reviewing, but we will not actively look for things to penalize.
In addition, I would like to announce the new S.N.A.I.L. OLR!
This is, in many respects, identical to the GTP OLR, with the new parts highlighted in green. Some parts have changed, but the general tenants of racecraft have not.
Read it. Learn it. Live it.
Green text highlights the differences between this and the GTP OLR.
01: S.N.A.I.L. OLR General Rules:
A:
These rules are subject to change as there are constant updates/changes coming out for GT5, it is your responsibility to update yourself on the changes. The Stewards will post in the thread when a change has been made and what the change entails.
B:
All drivers are expected to make themselves familiar with the racing rules before entering any race or competition. If you stumble across a rule that is unclear to you, make sure you fully understand that rule before you enter the race or competition. You can post your questions in the S.N.A.I.L. thread.
C:
You are expected to compete in a fair and honest manner. Fair and honest means according to the S.N.A.I.L. online racing rules, not according to your own interpretation of fair and honest.
D:
You are expected to drive responsibly in a way that’s not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of your fellow drivers.
E:
You are expected not to submit to bad general behaviour under all circumstances.
F:
Try to maintain a generally affable nature with the rest of the group; both in the thread and on the game. Some friendly rib-jabbing is expected. This isn't church.
G:
You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen and women at all times.
H:
The position of other drivers must always be respected.
I:
Aggressive driving is strictly prohibited.
J:
Cutting the chicanes or "shorting" the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas in behind out-of track-lines. Track specific boundaries will be clarified for certain tracks if it is not generally obvious.
K:
If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver concerned must not exit the race. The driver must find a position on the track where the driver will not endanger other drivers, park their car by coming to a complete stop and turning on the emergency brake and wait for the race to end. If you do not come to a full stop and turn on the brake your car may drive on by itself
L:
No careless driving. Always show respect for your fellow racers. Be careful. Show some patience. Understand the limitations of your car and yourself and drive accordingly. Driving online in a racing sim is NOT exactly the same as real life racing in every respect. Familiarity with the car and track is expected. Do not go into a Sunday night without having practiced and expect to be able to late brake or make other aggressive maneuvers without incident.
M:
If you are found guilty of any of these rules, the behaviour will be evaluated and penalty assessed by the Race Stewards as per the penalty system..
N:
When racing or entering a S.N.A.I.L. Sunday night race, all racers are expected to have fully broken in cars with a fresh oil change. All racers' cars should have the same horsepower, PP and tires.
02: Event Participation:
A:
If for any reason you know prior to a race you’ll be unable to attend, please advise by posting on the thread as soon as possible. An advanced notice of 24 hours is expected. Notices inside of 24 hours are still expected. If you fail to note your absence at all, you may be putting yourself first in line for relegation.
B:
As a general rule, if there isn’t a stated rule, then the rules as they are within a program will apply - both intentional and coincidental. I.e. the way a matter is handled by a racing program is the way that it will be interpreted by the Race Stewards.
03: Pit Etiquette:
A:
Cars on the race track have right-of-way over cars entering the race track from the pits. You have to take care not to interfere with other drivers on the track. Swerving in front of upcoming cars is not allowed.
04: Rules Governing Car Contact:
A:
Contacts and collisions must be avoided at all costs.
B:
Pushing other cars in turns or pushing them off the track is strictly prohibited.
C:
Leaning on other cars is strictly prohibited in any situation.
D:
Some contact through a corner or through a pass may not be avoidable and may be deemed "incidental" should it not appear to affect the likely outcome of the section in question.
05: Running into the car ahead of you:
A:
The behind driver must take all necessary care and responsibility not to run into an ahead driver.
B:
In case you brake too late for a corner or partially lose control of your car, you must do your best to avoid making the loss of control into a bigger incident. Some contact may be avoidable in these situations, but you are expected to minimize the impact of it to the best of your ability. Accidents may happen.
C:
The ahead driver must not do any malicious or inappropriate braking or slowing. Leading cars MUST NOT EVER 'brake check' the car(s) behind them because they are following too closely. The ahead driver IS entitled to be slower or use longer and earlier braking zones than others. They are also entitled to turn in earlier or later and/or apex earlier or later.
06: Contact Concessions:
A:
If there is contact between drivers that results in the guilty driver making up places on the innocent driver, the guilty driver should immediately allow the innocent driver to pass freely to re-establish their position. This rule should be observed, even if it means the guilty driver has to allow drivers not involved in the incident to pass while waiting for the driver they contacted.
B:
If the appropriate contact concession is carried out by the guilty driver then they may avoid or reduce the severity of any penalties that might otherwise apply as per the S.N.A.I.L. penalty system.
C:
If the appropriate contact concession is not carried out by the guilty party then greater penalties would apply.
D:
If you have to slow down to let the other player through, move out of the racing line first before you slow down. Coming to a full stop is not allowed, just continue at a lower pace out of the racing line until the other driver passes you again.
07: Corner Rights:
A:
When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.
B:
You must establish substantial overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up their inside, or to expect them to leave inside room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was no substantial overlap before he turned in.
C:
If sufficient overlap is established before the turn-in point, then the behind driver has the right to sufficient side room. The ahead driver must also leave sufficient side room for the behind driver. This means that each driver has a right to their respective "line", or side of the track, right up to the exit point. Neither driver should squeeze the other toward the inside or outside of the corner during the apex or exit.
D:
The turn in point is the point at which the leading car begins their turn into the corner–this may vary from the point at which you turn into the corner.
E:
If an ahead driver has clearly made an error to warrant a passing move, a behind driver may attack their position, with due caution and care, regardless of whether there was any pre-existing overlap. However, the overtaking driver must still avoid contact. Small errors by the ahead driver may not necessarily justify a passing move. The ahead driver getting a bit out of shape at times doesn’t give you an automatic right to force a pass. You still have to pass safely and without undue contact.
F:
Drivers are expected to set buttons up for side views as "I didn't see you" is not an excuse if you collide with another driver when racing.
08: Standing Start Guidelines:
A:
Additional caution and care must be taken when beginning a race with a standing start. All of the above rules in regard to contact apply during the start and first corner of the race.
B:
Be Patient. Begin the race at a normal pace that will not cause you to run into cars in front of you. Don't begin by steering to one side and attempting to barge through the pack. Conversely, don't begin at a slow pace that will make you an obstruction or barrier to cars behind you.
C:
Your goal on turn 1 should not be to get to the front, but rather to continue racing cleanly picking up one spot at a time. Look ahead more than one car. Due to field compression, a compact field will run slower through the first few turns than a spread out one. Leave some extra space, but not too much. Drivers behind you won't be expecting sudden braking. If you are behind a few cars in line, be prepared to brake extra early for a turn, as each car will be braking a bit farther back on the track than the one in front of it in order to avoid contact.
D:
A racer who runs into you may have been punted. Don't automatically assume malicious intent.
E:
All of the rules in regard to contact concession apply if you knock a racer off track during the start of the race. If you cause a wreck, you are required to wait for all players who go off track as a result, regardless of whether you contacted them directly or not. If you are involved in a wreck which you did not cause, you are not required to wait
9: Defensive Driving:
A:
Leading cars have the right to choose their own line down a straight. They can change their racing line once while driving down a straight (Move from the outside line to the inside, or vice versa). As they approach the next corner, they can return to the racing line of their choice. However, they are not allowed to change their line when the behind driver is directly behind and changes his line to try and make a pass. If your movement causes an accident, you are responsible.
B:
Leading cars have the right to take their line of choice through corners. I.e. they may drive a defensive line around the inside of a corner to protect their position, thereby forcing an attacking driver to try to pass around the outside. This is not blocking and is part of normal racing etiquette. In fact, apart from the restrictions of rule 10:A, a leading driver can drive any line which they feel is the most inconvenient for any following car to try to pass them.
C:
Drivers that are about to get lapped have to make sure not to interfere with the lapping cars. The driver being lapped should stay on the racing line but slow down just enough to allow the lead driver an easy pass. Keep your racing line predictable and try to stay out of the way.
10: Group Battle:
A:
When approaching a battle with 2 or more cars, be extra careful since those cars can change driving lines quickly when trying to defend/overtake. The cars in front will already be driving close, so finding a good overtaking spot is much harder. The same rules apply as when overtaking a single car.
B:
If you cause a crash in a group battle wait for all the effected drivers who were in front or/and driving next to you and let them get past. This doesn't include affected drivers who were driving behind you.
C:
When a crash occurs in a group battle, it’s vital to minimize risks for additional crashes. Slow down if needed, and try to drive on the clear side of the track. Overtaking is still allowed, but only under 1 or more of these conditions:
• The risk of hitting other cars is minimal.
• You overtake to avoid crashing into cars in front of you.
• Slowing down would make you a mobile obstruction for other cars.
D:
When you get 'locked up' in a group battle on the straights, you are not allowed to bump the driver in front of you in order to free yourself out of that situation. Stay behind that driver or move sideways as soon as there's sufficient room to do so. This rule does not restrict bump drafting.
11: Initial Fault:
A:
If you make a significant driving error and another driver or drivers attempts to capitalize on it, they have the right to do so. Do not try to collide or retaliate because of your error.
For Example: If you go wide at a corner and a close behind car tries to take advantage of this by moving up the inside, you should leave room for them, whether or not they had overlap going into the corner. They must also leave you room. This rule doesn't apply to small errors that don't affect the speed, direction and outcome. This is a bit of a grey area and requires good judgment on both parts.
B:
You can always protest after the race if you think you’ve been wronged by notifying the Division Steward and the other racer/s via Private Message ONLY. Do not flood the forum with he said, she said business or we will throw out your protest.
12: Ghost Cars:
A:
A ghost car is any car that is transparent and/or flickering transparent.
B:
If your car is a ghost car, you take on the responsibilities of the following "Recovering from an incident" and "Re-entering to the track after running off" topics as you are at fault. You also give the correct driving line to the non-ghosted cars (taking a turn wide so others can pass on the inside). Do not return to the driving line if possible until your car is back to the normal state. This may be hard to tell if you use bumper cam, but do your utmost to determine your state. Naturally, if you are serving a penalty, assume you are ghosted.
C:
If you are approaching one or more ghost cars on the track, you must avoid any contact with them at all as they may return to a normal state immediately. Then the contact would be your fault and in turn you may become a ghost car and have to make room for others while you car slows due to the penalty. Passing through a ghost car that is not entirely out of control in an effort to pass them will bring a penalty.
D:
If your car becomes a ghost, you are not permitted to overtake other non-ghosted cars. If you happen to overtake a car while being a ghost, you must return to your original position safely.
E:
If your car is a ghost you are not allowed to intentionally drive through other cars, just as they are not allowed to drive through you. In short, all cars on the track should be considered solid, no matter what state the game displays them.
13: Recovering from an incident:
A:
It is the responsibility of the driver recovering from any incident to take all necessary care to not interfere with any cars still on the track and not part of the incident. A relevant incident may include, but is not limited to -
• Being spun out
• Facing the wrong way,
• Perpendicular to the track
• Going abnormally slow for where you are on the track.
• Getting penalized for any amount of time by the penalty system
If you are off the track then the rules on "Re-entering to the track after running off" apply.
B:
In the event that your car turns to a 'ghost car' you assume the responsibility of avoiding hazards at all costs, refer to 13-B.
14: Re-entering to the track after running off:
A:
It is the responsibility of the car returning to the track to ensure there are no collisions so that no other drivers have to maneuver or brake suddenly to allow you to resume racing. If there's a chance of a collision, wait and be patient as other drivers have the right of way.
B:
An off track incident includes:
• Being stuck or pinned to a wall or railing.
• More than two tires leaving the track at any one time
• Any situation where the car may lose control and create cross traffic
C:
Do not reverse back onto the track unless it is necessary. If you are backing up away from a wall first look around you to avoid a collision and as the collision would be your fault.
D:
Re-enter the track parallel to the road, slowly and gently, and always with great care. This gives you the best opportunity to see what’s coming up the track behind you, and it also gives drivers coming up on you the best chance to orientate themselves to your situation.
15: Track Boundaries:
A:
Colliding with or using walls, fences or other obstacle is forbidden, whether time is gained or not.
B:
Two wheels (except when airborne, where the vertical projection of the car onto the track counts) must be in contact with the track/circuit which includes the rumble strips and footpaths, but not grassed areas.
C:
All green areas are not part of the track unless otherwise stated by the Stewards prior to the race.
D:
Curbs, sidewalks/pavements are not part of the track unless otherwise stated.
E:
Tarmac/Asphalt or any other kind of surface mentioned above that are situated beyond the normal limits of the track, Run-off areas for example, are not part of the track unless otherwise stated.
F:
Any kind of rumble strip made of concrete, stone etc are part of the track unless otherwise stated.
G:
Tarmac/Asphalt partially covered with dirt or sand are part of the track unless otherwise stated.
H:
You must not use any cheats or bugs in the game. The use of cheats or bugs affecting the cars performance is forbidden.
I:
The use of external cheats is forbidden.
J:
The use of shortcuts which are based on bugs in the game is prohibited. The fact that the game will allow you to take shortcuts does not account for a valid run.
K:
Any other way of cheating we haven't thought of is forbidden.
16: Qualifying:
A:
Qualifying is not racing. Drivers should space out amply early on their out lap to completely avoid other racers and the effects of them.
B:
Drafting during qualifying is forbidden.
C:
If you have an off or are slowed during qualifying, it is your responsibility to maintain proper distance from the car behind you or pull over and wait for another gap before continuing on.
D:
In short, it is the ahead driver's responsibility to make sure that they are not so close to the behind driver that they can draft off of you.
17: Complaints:
All complaints relating to a racing incident must follow this procedure:
1. Contact the driver concerned and the Division Steward through PM.
2. Discuss in a manner that is constructive.
3. Name PM subject title 'Racing Complaint'
4. Supply Members PSN_Tag
5. Supply Round and Race of the incident
6. Supply Lap, Turn, and race time of the incident
7. Supply Details and any other relevant information relating to the incident
A driver has 24 hours to bring up a racing incident. The Stewards will review the incident and make a final decision no more than 48 hours after the race.
Read the OLR. Much of it will be obvious and tedious, but it is full of things that every driver should know. As has been evidenced by the last several weeks of racing, fast drivers are clean drivers. Knowing the rules doesn't just keep you from getting penalized, it will keep you from getting into potential incidents in the first place, and that will only help your final score.
Thank you.
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We have several levels of incidents, each with their own point penalty ranges. This will allow us to better penalize people based on the scope of the incident. The levels are as follows:
Level 1: A bump. This is more than "incidental" contact. Some incidents not including direct contact may also be considered a penalty at this level. Likely this was just an accident or lapse of concentration that created an incident. 1-4 Point Penalty
Level 2: A shove. This may be the result of carrying too much speed into a corner or braking too late, causing moderate to major contact. A lack of situational awareness may have been at fault. 5-8 Point Penalty
Level 3: The offending driver was likely too aggressive in a pass, creating a situation where his car met another at a drastic difference in speed. This incident showed a lack of good racecraft. 9-12 Point Penalty
Level 4: This is an incident from which complete recovery is realistically impossible. The offending driver likely came on an overtly aggressive line or made a move that directly put others in jeopardy. There was no intent to impede or cause an incident, but the driver clearly showed a lack of judgment and a disregard for the tenets of good racecraft. 13-16 Point Penalty
Level 5: A particularly egregious incident. Intention may be believed or even known. Incidents of this caliber are race-ending and reputation-scarring. 17+ Point Penalty. This level of penalty would require extensive discussions by the Stewards and the guilty party, and would be open to any penalties as we see fit.
- Any of these penalties except for level 5 could be halved with the proper concession after the fact during the race.
- These levels are guidelines for us and you, and other penalties may be assessed as deemed necessary.
- Each of these penalties will bring about a probation period based on the level. A level 1 penalty will bring a 1 week probation period, level 2 brings 2 weeks, etc. The probation period doubles the effect of any incurred penalties.
- Multiple penalties in one week will be added to create a longer probation period: i.e. Level 1 + Level 3 penalties = 4 week probation.
- A maximum 6 week probation period can be incurred. At this point, the Stewards and the penalized racer will need to have a conversation.
- Multiple penalties during one week will not double the penalty points for that week.
Penalties for ghosting violations, or for cutting corner or going four wheels off track to gain an advantage can be reported directly to the Steward by any driver witnessing the problem without talking to the other driver first.
Stewards have the ability to assess penalties that are found during race reviewing, but we will not actively look for things to penalize.
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In addition, I would like to announce the new S.N.A.I.L. OLR!
This is, in many respects, identical to the GTP OLR, with the new parts highlighted in green. Some parts have changed, but the general tenants of racecraft have not.
Read it. Learn it. Live it.
Green text highlights the differences between this and the GTP OLR.
The S.N.A.I.L. OLR
01: S.N.A.I.L. OLR General Rules:
A:
These rules are subject to change as there are constant updates/changes coming out for GT5, it is your responsibility to update yourself on the changes. The Stewards will post in the thread when a change has been made and what the change entails.
B:
All drivers are expected to make themselves familiar with the racing rules before entering any race or competition. If you stumble across a rule that is unclear to you, make sure you fully understand that rule before you enter the race or competition. You can post your questions in the S.N.A.I.L. thread.
C:
You are expected to compete in a fair and honest manner. Fair and honest means according to the S.N.A.I.L. online racing rules, not according to your own interpretation of fair and honest.
D:
You are expected to drive responsibly in a way that’s not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of your fellow drivers.
E:
You are expected not to submit to bad general behaviour under all circumstances.
F:
Try to maintain a generally affable nature with the rest of the group; both in the thread and on the game. Some friendly rib-jabbing is expected. This isn't church.
G:
You are expected to behave like sporting gentlemen and women at all times.
H:
The position of other drivers must always be respected.
I:
Aggressive driving is strictly prohibited.
J:
Cutting the chicanes or "shorting" the track at any point is strictly prohibited on all parts of the track, including the asphalt-areas in behind out-of track-lines. Track specific boundaries will be clarified for certain tracks if it is not generally obvious.
K:
If a driver wants to retire from a race, the driver concerned must not exit the race. The driver must find a position on the track where the driver will not endanger other drivers, park their car by coming to a complete stop and turning on the emergency brake and wait for the race to end. If you do not come to a full stop and turn on the brake your car may drive on by itself
L:
No careless driving. Always show respect for your fellow racers. Be careful. Show some patience. Understand the limitations of your car and yourself and drive accordingly. Driving online in a racing sim is NOT exactly the same as real life racing in every respect. Familiarity with the car and track is expected. Do not go into a Sunday night without having practiced and expect to be able to late brake or make other aggressive maneuvers without incident.
M:
If you are found guilty of any of these rules, the behaviour will be evaluated and penalty assessed by the Race Stewards as per the penalty system..
N:
When racing or entering a S.N.A.I.L. Sunday night race, all racers are expected to have fully broken in cars with a fresh oil change. All racers' cars should have the same horsepower, PP and tires.
02: Event Participation:
A:
If for any reason you know prior to a race you’ll be unable to attend, please advise by posting on the thread as soon as possible. An advanced notice of 24 hours is expected. Notices inside of 24 hours are still expected. If you fail to note your absence at all, you may be putting yourself first in line for relegation.
B:
As a general rule, if there isn’t a stated rule, then the rules as they are within a program will apply - both intentional and coincidental. I.e. the way a matter is handled by a racing program is the way that it will be interpreted by the Race Stewards.
03: Pit Etiquette:
A:
Cars on the race track have right-of-way over cars entering the race track from the pits. You have to take care not to interfere with other drivers on the track. Swerving in front of upcoming cars is not allowed.
04: Rules Governing Car Contact:
A:
Contacts and collisions must be avoided at all costs.
B:
Pushing other cars in turns or pushing them off the track is strictly prohibited.
C:
Leaning on other cars is strictly prohibited in any situation.
D:
Some contact through a corner or through a pass may not be avoidable and may be deemed "incidental" should it not appear to affect the likely outcome of the section in question.
05: Running into the car ahead of you:
A:
The behind driver must take all necessary care and responsibility not to run into an ahead driver.
B:
In case you brake too late for a corner or partially lose control of your car, you must do your best to avoid making the loss of control into a bigger incident. Some contact may be avoidable in these situations, but you are expected to minimize the impact of it to the best of your ability. Accidents may happen.
C:
The ahead driver must not do any malicious or inappropriate braking or slowing. Leading cars MUST NOT EVER 'brake check' the car(s) behind them because they are following too closely. The ahead driver IS entitled to be slower or use longer and earlier braking zones than others. They are also entitled to turn in earlier or later and/or apex earlier or later.
06: Contact Concessions:
A:
If there is contact between drivers that results in the guilty driver making up places on the innocent driver, the guilty driver should immediately allow the innocent driver to pass freely to re-establish their position. This rule should be observed, even if it means the guilty driver has to allow drivers not involved in the incident to pass while waiting for the driver they contacted.
B:
If the appropriate contact concession is carried out by the guilty driver then they may avoid or reduce the severity of any penalties that might otherwise apply as per the S.N.A.I.L. penalty system.
C:
If the appropriate contact concession is not carried out by the guilty party then greater penalties would apply.
D:
If you have to slow down to let the other player through, move out of the racing line first before you slow down. Coming to a full stop is not allowed, just continue at a lower pace out of the racing line until the other driver passes you again.
07: Corner Rights:
A:
When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.
B:
You must establish substantial overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up their inside, or to expect them to leave inside room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was no substantial overlap before he turned in.
C:
If sufficient overlap is established before the turn-in point, then the behind driver has the right to sufficient side room. The ahead driver must also leave sufficient side room for the behind driver. This means that each driver has a right to their respective "line", or side of the track, right up to the exit point. Neither driver should squeeze the other toward the inside or outside of the corner during the apex or exit.
D:
The turn in point is the point at which the leading car begins their turn into the corner–this may vary from the point at which you turn into the corner.
E:
If an ahead driver has clearly made an error to warrant a passing move, a behind driver may attack their position, with due caution and care, regardless of whether there was any pre-existing overlap. However, the overtaking driver must still avoid contact. Small errors by the ahead driver may not necessarily justify a passing move. The ahead driver getting a bit out of shape at times doesn’t give you an automatic right to force a pass. You still have to pass safely and without undue contact.
F:
Drivers are expected to set buttons up for side views as "I didn't see you" is not an excuse if you collide with another driver when racing.
08: Standing Start Guidelines:
A:
Additional caution and care must be taken when beginning a race with a standing start. All of the above rules in regard to contact apply during the start and first corner of the race.
B:
Be Patient. Begin the race at a normal pace that will not cause you to run into cars in front of you. Don't begin by steering to one side and attempting to barge through the pack. Conversely, don't begin at a slow pace that will make you an obstruction or barrier to cars behind you.
C:
Your goal on turn 1 should not be to get to the front, but rather to continue racing cleanly picking up one spot at a time. Look ahead more than one car. Due to field compression, a compact field will run slower through the first few turns than a spread out one. Leave some extra space, but not too much. Drivers behind you won't be expecting sudden braking. If you are behind a few cars in line, be prepared to brake extra early for a turn, as each car will be braking a bit farther back on the track than the one in front of it in order to avoid contact.
D:
A racer who runs into you may have been punted. Don't automatically assume malicious intent.
E:
All of the rules in regard to contact concession apply if you knock a racer off track during the start of the race. If you cause a wreck, you are required to wait for all players who go off track as a result, regardless of whether you contacted them directly or not. If you are involved in a wreck which you did not cause, you are not required to wait
9: Defensive Driving:
A:
Leading cars have the right to choose their own line down a straight. They can change their racing line once while driving down a straight (Move from the outside line to the inside, or vice versa). As they approach the next corner, they can return to the racing line of their choice. However, they are not allowed to change their line when the behind driver is directly behind and changes his line to try and make a pass. If your movement causes an accident, you are responsible.
B:
Leading cars have the right to take their line of choice through corners. I.e. they may drive a defensive line around the inside of a corner to protect their position, thereby forcing an attacking driver to try to pass around the outside. This is not blocking and is part of normal racing etiquette. In fact, apart from the restrictions of rule 10:A, a leading driver can drive any line which they feel is the most inconvenient for any following car to try to pass them.
C:
Drivers that are about to get lapped have to make sure not to interfere with the lapping cars. The driver being lapped should stay on the racing line but slow down just enough to allow the lead driver an easy pass. Keep your racing line predictable and try to stay out of the way.
10: Group Battle:
A:
When approaching a battle with 2 or more cars, be extra careful since those cars can change driving lines quickly when trying to defend/overtake. The cars in front will already be driving close, so finding a good overtaking spot is much harder. The same rules apply as when overtaking a single car.
B:
If you cause a crash in a group battle wait for all the effected drivers who were in front or/and driving next to you and let them get past. This doesn't include affected drivers who were driving behind you.
C:
When a crash occurs in a group battle, it’s vital to minimize risks for additional crashes. Slow down if needed, and try to drive on the clear side of the track. Overtaking is still allowed, but only under 1 or more of these conditions:
• The risk of hitting other cars is minimal.
• You overtake to avoid crashing into cars in front of you.
• Slowing down would make you a mobile obstruction for other cars.
D:
When you get 'locked up' in a group battle on the straights, you are not allowed to bump the driver in front of you in order to free yourself out of that situation. Stay behind that driver or move sideways as soon as there's sufficient room to do so. This rule does not restrict bump drafting.
11: Initial Fault:
A:
If you make a significant driving error and another driver or drivers attempts to capitalize on it, they have the right to do so. Do not try to collide or retaliate because of your error.
For Example: If you go wide at a corner and a close behind car tries to take advantage of this by moving up the inside, you should leave room for them, whether or not they had overlap going into the corner. They must also leave you room. This rule doesn't apply to small errors that don't affect the speed, direction and outcome. This is a bit of a grey area and requires good judgment on both parts.
B:
You can always protest after the race if you think you’ve been wronged by notifying the Division Steward and the other racer/s via Private Message ONLY. Do not flood the forum with he said, she said business or we will throw out your protest.
12: Ghost Cars:
A:
A ghost car is any car that is transparent and/or flickering transparent.
B:
If your car is a ghost car, you take on the responsibilities of the following "Recovering from an incident" and "Re-entering to the track after running off" topics as you are at fault. You also give the correct driving line to the non-ghosted cars (taking a turn wide so others can pass on the inside). Do not return to the driving line if possible until your car is back to the normal state. This may be hard to tell if you use bumper cam, but do your utmost to determine your state. Naturally, if you are serving a penalty, assume you are ghosted.
C:
If you are approaching one or more ghost cars on the track, you must avoid any contact with them at all as they may return to a normal state immediately. Then the contact would be your fault and in turn you may become a ghost car and have to make room for others while you car slows due to the penalty. Passing through a ghost car that is not entirely out of control in an effort to pass them will bring a penalty.
D:
If your car becomes a ghost, you are not permitted to overtake other non-ghosted cars. If you happen to overtake a car while being a ghost, you must return to your original position safely.
E:
If your car is a ghost you are not allowed to intentionally drive through other cars, just as they are not allowed to drive through you. In short, all cars on the track should be considered solid, no matter what state the game displays them.
13: Recovering from an incident:
A:
It is the responsibility of the driver recovering from any incident to take all necessary care to not interfere with any cars still on the track and not part of the incident. A relevant incident may include, but is not limited to -
• Being spun out
• Facing the wrong way,
• Perpendicular to the track
• Going abnormally slow for where you are on the track.
• Getting penalized for any amount of time by the penalty system
If you are off the track then the rules on "Re-entering to the track after running off" apply.
B:
In the event that your car turns to a 'ghost car' you assume the responsibility of avoiding hazards at all costs, refer to 13-B.
14: Re-entering to the track after running off:
A:
It is the responsibility of the car returning to the track to ensure there are no collisions so that no other drivers have to maneuver or brake suddenly to allow you to resume racing. If there's a chance of a collision, wait and be patient as other drivers have the right of way.
B:
An off track incident includes:
• Being stuck or pinned to a wall or railing.
• More than two tires leaving the track at any one time
• Any situation where the car may lose control and create cross traffic
C:
Do not reverse back onto the track unless it is necessary. If you are backing up away from a wall first look around you to avoid a collision and as the collision would be your fault.
D:
Re-enter the track parallel to the road, slowly and gently, and always with great care. This gives you the best opportunity to see what’s coming up the track behind you, and it also gives drivers coming up on you the best chance to orientate themselves to your situation.
15: Track Boundaries:
A:
Colliding with or using walls, fences or other obstacle is forbidden, whether time is gained or not.
B:
Two wheels (except when airborne, where the vertical projection of the car onto the track counts) must be in contact with the track/circuit which includes the rumble strips and footpaths, but not grassed areas.
C:
All green areas are not part of the track unless otherwise stated by the Stewards prior to the race.
D:
Curbs, sidewalks/pavements are not part of the track unless otherwise stated.
E:
Tarmac/Asphalt or any other kind of surface mentioned above that are situated beyond the normal limits of the track, Run-off areas for example, are not part of the track unless otherwise stated.
F:
Any kind of rumble strip made of concrete, stone etc are part of the track unless otherwise stated.
G:
Tarmac/Asphalt partially covered with dirt or sand are part of the track unless otherwise stated.
H:
You must not use any cheats or bugs in the game. The use of cheats or bugs affecting the cars performance is forbidden.
I:
The use of external cheats is forbidden.
J:
The use of shortcuts which are based on bugs in the game is prohibited. The fact that the game will allow you to take shortcuts does not account for a valid run.
K:
Any other way of cheating we haven't thought of is forbidden.
16: Qualifying:
A:
Qualifying is not racing. Drivers should space out amply early on their out lap to completely avoid other racers and the effects of them.
B:
Drafting during qualifying is forbidden.
C:
If you have an off or are slowed during qualifying, it is your responsibility to maintain proper distance from the car behind you or pull over and wait for another gap before continuing on.
D:
In short, it is the ahead driver's responsibility to make sure that they are not so close to the behind driver that they can draft off of you.
17: Complaints:
All complaints relating to a racing incident must follow this procedure:
1. Contact the driver concerned and the Division Steward through PM.
2. Discuss in a manner that is constructive.
3. Name PM subject title 'Racing Complaint'
4. Supply Members PSN_Tag
5. Supply Round and Race of the incident
6. Supply Lap, Turn, and race time of the incident
7. Supply Details and any other relevant information relating to the incident
A driver has 24 hours to bring up a racing incident. The Stewards will review the incident and make a final decision no more than 48 hours after the race.
