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So, this debate is really great but WHAT CARS ARE WE DRIVING THIS WEEK?
Good question!
So, this debate is really great but WHAT CARS ARE WE DRIVING THIS WEEK?
I was being rhetorical. Even though I do hate those things I do not complain about them publicly.
Still, bad form by condescending like that.
So, this debate is really great but WHAT CARS ARE WE DRIVING THIS WEEK?
I would also like to know that. I would like to host a break-in/enduro session tonight with the Prize A but I can't really do that if dude never posts it.
Maybe I missed it, but have the prize winners been given the "all clear" to announce their prizes?
A and B winners have. Not C though.so yep.you missed it.
Maybe I missed it, but have the prize winners been given the "all clear" to announce their prizes?
We just filling in some blank space until the stewards give us the word.So, this debate is really great but WHAT CARS ARE WE DRIVING THIS WEEK?
@dragon
How else would you suggest to accurately compare points scored in a room with 7 to a room with 12? If you really think it's fair to say that points earned in each room are equal to each other, like I said earlier, there is no point in discussing it with you.
I'm going to put this in big bold print in the hopes that it sinks in:
It's not a handicap. It doesn't change the standings within the division. It's only used to determine the weekly prize winners by more accurately comparing the performance of drivers in rooms of different size. The adjustment would never need to be changed unless SNAIL changed the entire points system becasue it's based on minimum available points for each night. The points would not be changed based on the adjustment for the monthly championship.
I am also looking forward to finding out what the combinations are. I thought there was some talk of something that was very out-of-the-box. I wonder what it could be?
Would it be possible to PM the two guys involved to get this rolling?
In the perfect world of happy racers, whether you win or lose, your attitude about rage quitters is the way it should be. But getting disconnected randomly and getting driven off the course by drivers who are not on the same page as you can, and has, gotten under the skin of many of the higher ups here. The very same happy drivers who love the fellowship, racecraft and competition. When one or two of the peices of the formula fall to the wayside then I see people get frustrated.
So where is the simulation of real motorsport with disconnections and people who can't seem to keep their fenders away from yours? In real racing it requires a racing license to even get on the track and in that regard you know that everyone on the course is being held to a certain standard.
This is why I say that in many ways the nature of motorsports has nothing to with this series. You can talk about how "in real life, blah blah this or blah blah that" til you are blue in the face. But in the end you are sitting there in your home sipping gin and juice play a video game.
We do our best to perform within the parameters set forth by GT5 and the game they have created. It would be nice to cut some slack to those who cannot control the circumstances by which they are being eliminated from winning the competition. And the way these people are being eliminated fromthis have no similarities to real racing.
It has been a frustrating argument that I know I have lost but my point has been made and the decision is not in my favor. I'll see you guys for practice Wednesday
Well, his last argument sounds to my ears exactly the real reason behind his talk. He don't care very much about fellowship or racecraft not even competition. He can't figure he won't win if he has to deal with others on the track because he is convinced he would be faster than anyone if no one shows on the track....
We just filling in some blank space until the stewards give us the word.
First off, there's no reason to be snarkily putting text in bold print.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting. Let me make sure I'm clear on what your saying.
1st place in a race with 5 people has less value than 1st place in a race with 10?
This being because beating 9 drivers is harder than beating 4?
There will be a prize awarded to the highest scores under your system? That prize being what?
We just filling in some blank space until the stewards give us the word.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting. Let me make sure I'm clear on what your saying.
1st place in a race with 5 people has less value than 1st place in a race with 10?
This being because beating 9 drivers is harder than beating 4?
There will be a prize awarded to the highest scores under your system? That prize being what?
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not arguing anything with anyone. I presented an idea that may or may not be used and I have spent considerable time trying to explain it in a way that can be easily understood. I'm not even saying it's the best possible solution to a very small issue that exists, but it is the only one presented so far. If anyone else has anything constructive to add, I strongly encourage it.
I think you presented it well, personally.
When we first started talking about the problem, I had a funny feeling that the conversation would end up much like those I've had in the past about instant run-off voting. No matter how mathematically elegant an idea is, there seems to be a limit to how much complexity people can accept without it feeling somehow artificial, and therefore unfair. This isn't intended as a knock on the people that disagree with your idea, but the fact that the criticisms paint it as a handicap just illustrates the fact that it isn't well understood.
I suggest that we try it for December, and then publish a comparison of the results between the two prize distribution schemes for all to see (I know you already did that for November, but I didn't see anyone say they had a problem with the results, so maybe it didn't sink in?). If a majority prefer the old system, we can switch it back.
As the Prize B winner, my decision is to take the Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08 to Tokyo R246 for 6 laps.
This car really forces you to have some throttle discipline and so do a few corners at this track. You may now being to practice then tell me how awful my choice was.
Sounds interesting. Where are you in Michigan?
i'm putting this in red so people pay attention
if this arguing is the type of environment we have in this league, then i have no interest in continuing. If i was looking to join this league and saw this in the forum i would never think about it. We are playing a game that is meant for fun and if you can't even discuss ideas on a public forum without getting cocky or arguing then how am i supposed to expect a clean, fair race on sunday? I think we all need to take a deep breath and discuss it properly or not discuss it at all.
I hope no-one ever hears there choice is awful. Some may be more challenging than others but I have yet to drive a bad combo. Your pic sounds like good one.As the Prize B winner, my decision is to take the Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08 to Tokyo R246 for 6 laps.
This car really forces you to have some throttle discipline and so do a few corners at this track. You may now being to practice then tell me how awful my choice was.