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this is what i believe as well, i was thinking that we are playing a GT7 beta... however im not sure how much will transfer straight across from PS3 to PS4....i guess we will know more tomorrow .
1.06 update coming april 7th!
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The Data Logger is technically a returning feature. In GT3, you could load replays (I think only the "best lap" / ghost type, not sure) and view inputs and physics readouts in real-time, and watch the car in slow-motion etc. It also allowed comparison of two different laps, using separate traces and the usual ghost visualisation in the "replay window". I think the Data Logger returned in a later game without the 3D imagery, and was slightly less flexible.
If the Data Logger referenced in the blurb for the 1.06 update is the same thing, then there is no issue regarding sources of data at all.
If the Data Logger referenced in the blurb for the 1.06 update is the same thing, then there is no issue regarding sources of data at all.
Good question.
It's worth noting that, though the game version should be the same the world over, it doesn't necessarily mean that all functionality is the same the world over. We have a bit of precedence in the form of Photo Stream in GT5, which was contained within an update everyone got but only initially enabled in Japan/Asia versions.[/quot
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Off topic: All the firmware I have ever written resides on it's own dedicated chip and has nothing to do with system ram.
On topic: Oh great, the new update not only requires that I own a $20000+ car AND live in Japan AND have access to one of three tracks used AND now it's a $900 upgrade to said $20000+ car! Yes, this is really useful to me
I think the issue is that features that were in GT5 and were advertised as being in GT6 arent. Now 4 months later we get updates and features we cant or will hardly use while the core implementation of features.
So while the visialiser is cool and unique to the average fan its little solice and will have very little impact on their game.
Those GT5 features were expected. Crazy.
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Isn't this similar to the Telemetry in gt5?
Forgive my ignorance, but is this gps data logger bringing Telemetry back?
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I guessed so.
My thought process was that if we are getting access to recorded gps telemetry data, how can we view it without a telemetry screen...
So do we think that we will be able to view telemetry of normal in game replays aswell?
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This is what's causing my confusion.
We are supposed to be getting 'gps data logger' functionality for a select few real world cars on a select few real world locations. This data would obviously include 'telemetry', but this is all talking about the 'gps data logger' which is designed for real world cars.
I haven't seen anything official suggesting that it will bring back the normal telemetry screen from gt5, but this is why I'm trying to gain some clarification.
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Search the thread for posts by Famine - he explains each feature in greater detail.
There's two separate features being discussed here - the GPS Visualiser and the Data Logger. The GPS Visualiser converts information obtained from a chip in a special car (GT86) into data that can be understood by GT6 (replay). The Data Logger reads any replay - from a real lap or a virtual lap.
The video shows both these features in use. From the blurb on the GT website they're listed as two separate things, but from the News article here on GTP and the video posted on the GT JP site it doesn't seem to be just the GPS Visualiser that we're getting because that alone would not work without the Data Logger.
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Thankyou very much Sir
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I can't see why it wouldn't be possible! This is one of those "what use is a moon rover without the moon to drive it on?" moments. 
What the description, and subsequent clarifications, have hinted at, is that the real-world "telemetry" data is converted for use in GT6 using an external program. That program would most likely create a special kind of "replay" for the game to interpret.
I doubt there will be very much difference between loading that kind of replay into the visualiser and loading a GT6 replay for the same purpose. They're both just sequences of (1-dimensional) data, whose structure is designed by PD in either case.
EDIT: too slow.
EDIT: it's also a necessary requirement to compare your in-game laps with a real-world lap...
What the description, and subsequent clarifications, have hinted at, is that the real-world "telemetry" data is converted for use in GT6 using an external program. That program would most likely create a special kind of "replay" for the game to interpret.
I doubt there will be very much difference between loading that kind of replay into the visualiser and loading a GT6 replay for the same purpose. They're both just sequences of (1-dimensional) data, whose structure is designed by PD in either case.
EDIT: too slow.
EDIT: it's also a necessary requirement to compare your in-game laps with a real-world lap...
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*1Limited release the GAZOO Racing 86/BRZ Race planned for April 2 through Toyota Technocraft Co., Ltd.
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Yes, it's June 2nd. If you push the GT.com page through Google Translate it comes back as April 2nd, but it's June 2nd.
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This has nothing to do with the track editor. this is a item used by pros, nothing more. this sort of thing is old news. but polly is bringing it to GT series. KAZ needs to keep working on OUR track editor, with GPS feature. so we can use it to make tracks like they said. stop showing us High priced **** we won't be getting. KAZ, give us a FIX and FEATURE update as promised.
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Not sure why they will limit only to race cars, sorry @Famine, is this true ?I thought Toyota would release it for all GT86 models and derivative ( BRZ )
https://www.gtplanet.net/more-gt6-data-logger-details-price-track-compatibility/
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This is what I don't get, the device can work on street GT86, as it was fitted on Scion FR-S driven by @Jordan back at Willow Springs. I am sure Toyota would make it available on street car too.
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Well it might be compatible on the street variants "in the future".
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This is something I don't repeat too often, but it may well be true. And if true, it means that GT6 will get leftover content culled from GT7 work. Now, this could be good, but it's going to be ported and tuned with a smaller staff, so it could also take longer to produce. Like, suppose they have the essentials of a full blown 100x100 mile Course Maker 2 in their PS4 kits. They would have to do a GT PSP and figure out how they could squeeze as much of that as they can into the much skimpier ram available in PS3. The same with any ambitious feature, like the next gen audio engine. We'll have a better idea come E3.
Well, here's my above reply without the jumping down your throat part.
If it's ready, and manufacturers have invested in this thing with PD, they have to release it by the June 2 deadline. And as Imari speculates, this may be all they have to give us for a few weeks. A few more weeks of nothing will just make some on the nets angrier.
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The cars we drove were not "normal" FR-S models. I didn't find out exactly what was special with them, other than being fit with the compatible ECUs, but they were definitely not standard production cars.
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Right. So this update will require a future update before it will even work?
And once the future update of this update is finally released I can watch complete strangers with considerably more money than I have pulling off very average/terrible lap times?
Tremendous.
And once the future update of this update is finally released I can watch complete strangers with considerably more money than I have pulling off very average/terrible lap times?
Tremendous.
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Something about this feels very much like contractual obligation the way it's just being shunted in on a game that's struggling well past the generation change as a feature that's negligible to almost the entire user base. I feel that PD entered into an agreement with the company that manufactures and utilises the logging devices prior to release and are now having to add that utility even though it serves no purpose.
Pure speculation on my part but I have been on the receiving end of contract disputes and this just gives me the same feeling.
Pure speculation on my part but I have been on the receiving end of contract disputes and this just gives me the same feeling.
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All that you wrote is understandable, excluding the part about the Course Maker. And I'm not talking exactly about it being "ours". It's not going to be the same as GT5's "type" simply because we will (hopefully, as it's been stated by Kaz) be able to have more freedom with it like we should be able to create our own paths in Ronda. We still don't know if it will only be new locations for the Course Maker or if it will include old locations such as Tokyo Bay (please! let it include the old ones).
In other words, it won't be as simple to implement this new Course Maker as it was for PD to have the Course Maker in GT5. They have the means to do it, but it seems as though they don't have the time frame in which we expect it to be added (through an update).
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What's stopping you from using this feature if they add a track near you? You don't need to be a racing driver to own a Scion FR-S or a Subaru BRZ. This feature is meant of both us and racing drivers. If you wanted to you could take your FRS or BRZ to a track and use this feature like any racing driver.
You are either seriously misreading the info we're getting or you're being purposefully obtuse.
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