2009,BATHURST 1000.. Mt.PANORAMA

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Who will win BATHURST-1000. in 2008


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Why did it punish Murphy/Richards and reward Lowndes/Whincup then? Murph and Jason had the fastest car in practice, and Lowndes (almost looked on purpose) ran into Murph on lap 1 causing damage. Imagine, if Lowndes wasn't so dirty, it would have almost certainly been Murph and Richards on the top spot.

Rubbish.

Murphs front right hits CL's rear left....... i'd say the stewards would have given Murph a drive through if Lowndes had of ended up in the wall, as CL was past him and moving across to assume raceline after being on the grass on the right......

It's Lap 1, Murph needed to engage his brain and think of the following 160 to come...... but he has history at getting into the rear quarter of Falcons, ask Marcos Ambrose.

Anyways, it was all a mute point due to Murph flatspotting his front left a couple of laps later.
 
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Rubbish.

Murphs front right hits CL's rear left....... i'd say the stewards would have given Murph a drive through if Lowndes had of ended up in the wall, as CL was past him and moving across to assume raceline after being on the grass on the right......

It's Lap 1, Murph needed to engage his brain and think of the following 160 to come...... but he has history at getting into the rear quarter of Falcons, ask Marcos Ambrose.

Anyways, it was all a mute point due to Murph flatspotting his front left a couple of laps later.
Wow someone doesn't like Murph. The way I see it. Lowndes and Murph were side by side or atleast Murph was passed the B-pillar. Lowndes had to get back on track. Having two wheels on the grass at the speed is tough inwhich when he swerved CL went further left that he wanted to. Crushing as I'm a Murph fan through and through, but THAT'S RACING.

On a side note I just want to say that you should all bow down to me as a part of Bathurst weekend our telecast here in NZ had a txt/sms comp where The prize was 1 of 5 double Grandstand passes to the Hamilton 400 next year with Pit pass for all 3 days action haha man I'm stoked about that Now I don't have to pay lol My name was even read out on TV haha That's a first for me lol
 
On a side note I just want to say that you should all bow down to me as a part of Bathurst weekend our telecast here in NZ had a txt/sms comp where The prize was 1 of 5 double Grandstand passes to the Hamilton 400 next year with Pit pass for all 3 days action haha man I'm stoked about that Now I don't have to pay lol My name was even read out on TV haha That's a first for me lol

Nice one ,makes sitting down on a Sunday watchin' motorsport all day even more worthwhile.👍
 
On a side note I just want to say that you should all bow down to me as a part of Bathurst weekend our telecast here in NZ had a txt/sms comp where The prize was 1 of 5 double Grandstand passes to the Hamilton 400 next year with Pit pass for all 3 days action haha man I'm stoked about that Now I don't have to pay lol My name was even read out on TV haha That's a first for me lol
You obviously won a seat my friend yeah?????:D:D
 
thanks guys. Would've preferred it to be Bathurst next year lol but Hamilton will do haha
MATE a win is a win!And being the first 'Hamilton 400' it'll be good to be a part of that crowd...yeh??:)
 
Yes well now it's more of an endurance round this time. I was there last year and will be for all 7 years of this event, but yes a win is a win and I am so happy..... The only thing that would make it better is if I win 30 million on the Lotto this week haha
 
Paul Radisich (Toll HSV with Rick Kelly) crashed hard head on with a wall in practice, it appears his throttle got stuck. Apparently he has a broken ankle, but otherwise ok.


So far there has been quite a few incidents already and the race is still to come.


*EDIT* Also the heavily damaged Toll car is apparently going to fixed intime for the race tommorrow (will miss the shootout) and another driver is to be announced.

That's a real shame, why couldn't it have been Lowndes instead.:grumpy: I hope Rick can do well in the race, where I assume he will start 10th (if he starts).

Just so you know why you were banned....
daam THIS is a shame..I can't understand why such an obvious off the cuff comment has been dealt with so harshly:grumpy:.This sort of comment between rival supporters is almost expected(with no malice intended) from the 'V8 Supercar' fan .And i think in text you lose the tone of the comment it's a little like sledging ...yeh:sly:...I do hope this is a temporary thing because it's people like this that spur on good debate,and make up the fabric of these forums whether you like them or not....what about the racing guys? GO HOLDEN !!:)
 
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daam THIS is a shame..I can't understand why such an obvious off the cuff comment has been dealt with so harshly:grumpy:.This sort of comment between rival supporters is almost expected(with no malice intended) from the 'V8 Supercar' fan .And i think in text you lose the tone of the comment it's a little like sledging ...yeh:sly:...I do hope this is a temporary thing because it's people like this that spur on good debate,and make up the fabric of these forums whether you like them or not....what about the racing guys? GO HOLDEN !!:)
Well, according to the banned user log, nd 4 holden speed had already got multiple infraction points, so he should've known not to push his luck and follow the rules. It may have been small, but that one extra infraction would've been his last chance. But let's keep this thread about the race.
 
Well, according to the banned user log, nd 4 holden speed had already got multiple infraction points, so he should've known not to push his luck and follow the rules. It may have been small, but that one extra infraction would've been his last chance. But let's keep this thread about the race.
Yes .:) it's unfortunate though that the passion that drives us all "MOTORSPORT" and the rivalry that it evokes is almost made to seem unacceptable sometimes...:confused:
 
Yes .:) it's unfortunate though that the passion that drives us all "MOTORSPORT" and the rivalry that it evokes is almost made to seem unacceptable sometimes...:confused:
Well he already got into trouble with the mods in the cars in general sub forum, so to say that it was unfortunate that his comment here was the one that gut him banned. But I think for most of us, we already saw it coming......
 
FORD, FORD, FORD. Three years in a row for Lowndes and Wincup. No-one has mentioned this feat. It has been 25 years since it happened (Peter Brock and Larry Perkins were the last). The way the cars are evenly matched, this certainly is a feat of the modern era.

The thing that really gets up my goat is Ford is pulling sponsorship money out of racing and only backing two teams (FPR - understandable & Stone Bros. Racing) Why not Team Vodaphone being they have given Ford the last three bathurst's. Shame on Ford.
 
Because SBR was the last Ford team to win a championship and they have to support their own factory team with FPR, so 888 racing, DJR (who has supported Ford through thick and thin!!) and the others get ditched to the side. Bathurst only accounts as one round of the championship now whereas in the past it was a one-off holy grail type of event.
 
Because SBR was the last Ford team to win a championship and they have to support their own factory team with FPR, so 888 racing, DJR (who has supported Ford through thick and thin!!) and the others get ditched to the side. Bathurst only accounts as one round of the championship now whereas in the past it was a one-off holy grail type of event.

It's just a shame that ford have done this, (this being dropped backing to all teams bar two).

Although this has opened the door for a possible third badging in the field. I have heard on the grapevine that Team Vodaphone may badge as Toyota, although I not quite sure how they can do this, or they will remove all ford badging except for the blue oval & GT on the grill.
 
No picture will ever do Mt Panorama justice, all lens will flatten out the incredible elevation changes of the place.
:idea:It would be nice to see a 3d CG map image of the Mt. Panorama course in it's raceday best looking at it from near the front straight and a few meters in the air as though your viewing it with Google Earth. ;)

Does anyone know a website that has very high definition quality pictures of the Mount Panorama race track? I googled it but ill i get are some odd angles but non give the track the justice.
I was able to find these. They are just like what i'm looking for. Anyone know where i can find more?

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Great pics from Motominded,specially the first one which looks from the mountain down to the the chase.This 'is' a graphic example off the change in elevation:)(mountain goat country..lol)
Agreed.;)👍
Holy jeebus, that is steep. First time I've seen a photo like that of the track before! :eek:
Epic drop-off is epic, and then some!:crazy:

Yeah, baby; Craig Lowndes and Jamie Whincup take their third-straight Bathurst victory!
Guess they've truly earned a spot alongside some of The Mountain's other noteworthy conquerors with that win, huh?:sly:

its not called 'The Great Race' for nothing! 👍
Or as I would call it, "The Great Australian Race". ;)

As Boris Said was quoted, "If they had this track in America it'd be illegal!"
Dunno if that earned him a few dirty looks from some of the locals standing within earshot...:embarrassed: Also, I'm wondering of there are people at Laguna Seca and Infineon wondering if they can get them to come over to the US for a V8 Supercars round in the future.

Because SBR was the last Ford team to win a championship and they have to support their own factory team with FPR, so 888 racing, DJR (who has supported Ford through thick and thin!!) and the others get ditched to the side. Bathurst only accounts as one round of the championship now whereas in the past it was a one-off holy grail type of event.
It's truly a shame with what Ford is doing. :( Also, I believe Bathurst is truly one of the more noteworthy race of it's series like NASCAR's Daytona 500, IndyCar's Indianapolis 500 and F1's Monaco Grand Prix to name a few.

BTW...here are some more good pics of Bathurst

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Nice Pics Motominded. :D:tup: That first pic has me imagining someone putting up a flagpole that goes about 150' in the air with a blinking red light on top (for aviation safety purposes) and a 30' x 60' Australian flag on it that can be easily seen from most anywhere on the track. :sly:
 
Dunno if that earned him a few dirty looks from some of the locals standing within earshot...:embarrassed: Also, I'm wondering of there are people at Laguna Seca and Infineon wondering if they can get them to come over to the US for a V8 Supercars round in the future.
Well, the V8s have been to Shanghai and they do rounds in Bahrain as well, not to mention going to the other side of The Ditch for Pukekohe and Hamilton, so I wouldn't say other international events won't happen. But I'm not sure about America. Sure, Infineon and Laguna Seca are awesome circuits, but they're way out of a reasonable time zone for Australian viewers to watch live. And the cars aren't exactly familiar to Americans; Falcons and Commodores are only really available in Australia, so would American audiences recognise them? Besides, it would likely be competing with NASCAR. The only way I could see it really working would be if Marcos Ambrose had quite a bit of success over there and everyone started to wonder where he'd come from, and the V8s could say it was a case of better to show than to tell and have a round over there.

But I think that if the V8s have another international event, it will be in either Sepang or somewhere in Japan, though I think a third marque like Toyota would have to be allowed into the championship.
 
Well, the V8s have been to Shanghai and they do rounds in Bahrain as well, not to mention going to the other side of The Ditch for Pukekohe and Hamilton, so I wouldn't say other international events won't happen. But I'm not sure about America. Sure, Infineon and Laguna Seca are awesome circuits, but they're way out of a reasonable time zone for Australian viewers to watch live. And the cars aren't exactly familiar to Americans; Falcons and Commodores are only really available in Australia, so would American audiences recognise them? Besides, it would likely be competing with NASCAR. The only way I could see it really working would be if Marcos Ambrose had quite a bit of success over there and everyone started to wonder where he'd come from, and the V8s could say it was a case of better to show than to tell and have a round over there.

But I think that if the V8s have another international event, it will be in either Sepang or somewhere in Japan, though I think a third marque like Toyota would have to be allowed into the championship.

I agree with most of your post there Dyr?, but some things crop up for me:

1. American's will REMEMBER the Falcon, as it was a US model before we pinched it and developed it 40+ years ago, and will want it there if they raced there as it's a PROPER PRODUCTION RWD, not a tube chassis with a Fusion body on it. ;)

2. You guys already get our Commodores, the G8's (and the Pontiac GTO's before that!!). ;) It wouldn't take an hour of pit work to stick G8 fronts on them and then "WOW, we don't get them in NASCAR!!" but it could be done with enough forethought.

3. Marcos Ambrose - All I have to say on him is wait until the first road course, then you will ALL be amazed, he will decimate all before him. To tell you the truth, the only other great road course driver in NASCAR is Montoya. He's already destroyed the Nationwide Series everytime he's on a road course, and everytime I see him running in the Top 3 near the end in one of those races, one of the so called NASCAR 'pros' takes him out (anybody remember Robby Gordon's incident with him?? ;))
God I wish he was back in V8Supercars......such a great talent.

4. Laguna Seca would be the better circuit for V8Supercar racing and would be better either as a season starter or near to the finish. Daylight saving causes us to be 19hrs ahead of the Pacific Coast of the USA so that's 'technically' only 5hrs behind in broadcast time. If they did a twilight/night race, they could have 2 x 200km races, start Race 1 at 4pm Saturday PST (11am Sunday AEDT) and have Race 2 completed by 10pm (5pm to us).
PERFECT BROADCASTING TIMES for Australia.........someone give me a job at Channel 7. :cool::P
 
4. Laguna Seca would be the better circuit for V8Supercar racing and would be better either as a season starter or near to the finish. Daylight saving causes us to be 19hrs ahead of the Pacific Coast of the USA so that's 'technically' only 5hrs behind in broadcast time. If they did a twilight/night race, they could have 2 x 200km races, start Race 1 at 4pm Saturday PST (11am Sunday AEDT) and have Race 2 completed by 10pm (5pm to us).
PERFECT BROADCASTING TIMES for Australia.........someone give me a job at Channel 7. :cool::P
I like that idea you're pitching.:sly:👍 If they do run it there one day, I wonder how long it'll be before the V8 Supercars fans refer to Laguna Seca as the 'American Bathurst'. :dopey:
 
I like that idea you're pitching.:sly:👍 If they do run it there one day, I wonder how long it'll be before the V8 Supercars fans refer to Laguna Seca as the 'American Bathurst'. :dopey:

Problem there is, Wouldn't you guys after two or three years say aussies stole the bathurst idea from you guys. :sly: ;)

It would be good to see though, more diversity in the series.

There also would not be a problem with Holden in the USA, they would probably rebadge to Chevrolet (like they did with Toddler in Shanghai one year) and americans all know what a ford is.
 
There also would not be a problem with Holden in the USA, they would probably rebadge to Chevrolet (like they did with Toddler in Shanghai one year) and americans all know what a ford is.
Re: Holden

Or Pontiac. :D
 
Nothing deserves to be likened to Bathurst becuase there is only one Mount Panorama. Laguna Seca might have the Corckscrew, but Bathurst has everything from the Cutting across to Forrest's Elbow ... and the touring car world's fastest corner leading into the Chase.

Also, a night race at Laguna or at Infineon would need lighting, which I don't think either has, and would prove to be a risky investment because there's no guarantee of success with the V8s going to America. Perhaps if it were a kind of support category - but run as a full-length race before NASCAR takes to the Infineon circuit - there might be some success. I'd also have it as a delayed telecast so that it's on at the usual time with us seeing it after the face and the results kept quiet until the broadcast.
 
Too bad for us Sports Tonight would spoil the results.

Just like they did with the Japanese F1 Grand Prix last night....GRRR! :mad:
 
Every year there are offers from Europe and America to take the V8's over, but Tony Cochrane has always said that Australasia and the Middle East are the only markets they're interested in running.
 
Every year there are offers from Europe and America to take the V8's over, but Tony Cochrane has always said that Australasia and the Middle East are the only markets they're interested in running.

A real shame. From what I've seen, the V8 Supercars are gaining a bit of popularity over-seas. For a long time I've imagined how cool it would be to see our own cars on some of the most famous circuits in other parts of the world.
 
A few people around the forums I visit seem interested in the height difference of the track, but believe the photos and camera work make it seem bigger than it really is. I had a couple of interesting comments after I posted the following.

The difference in height from the bottom to the top of the circuit is:
~ The height of Spinnaker Tower, UK
~ The height of the Skybridge at the Petronas Twin Towers, Malaysia
- Greater than the height of any building in Brazil or Chile
~ The height of World Trade Centre Mexico, Mexico
~ The height of Stade Olympique, Canada
- Greater than the height of the VAB at the Kennedy Space Centre
 
Yeah it really is quite the elevevation change, the commentator's don't say- 'and there beginning the climb up the mountain' for nothing. I think it really makes the trakc actually...there is nothing better in Motorsport Australia than watching the V8's roar down the Moutain!!:D:tup:...That ROOOOAAAARRR as they flow down the mountain is truly fantastic lol!:lol:
Rusty*
 
3. Marcos Ambrose - All I have to say on him is wait until the first road course, then you will ALL be amazed, he will decimate all before him. To tell you the truth, the only other great road course driver in NASCAR is Montoya. He's already destroyed the Nationwide Series everytime he's on a road course, and everytime I see him running in the Top 3 near the end in one of those races, one of the so called NASCAR 'pros' takes him out (anybody remember Robby Gordon's incident with him?? )
God I wish he was back in V8Supercars......such a great talent.


Ambrose did show them he was a great circuit racer,about 2 months ago he came from near last after being unable to qualify, due to some mechanical failure (I think)in final practice, to finish 2nd in the wet, a truly outstanding achievment .Passing cars every lap and falling short of the win as a yellow flag area stopped him from passing in the last lap.👍👍👍
 
Every year there are offers from Europe and America to take the V8's over, but Tony Cochrane has always said that Australasia and the Middle East are the only markets they're interested in running.

A real shame. From what I've seen, the V8 Supercars are gaining a bit of popularity over-seas. For a long time I've imagined how cool it would be to see our own cars on some of the most famous circuits in other parts of the world.

Tony Cochrane is a moron though. He doesn't know a great deal when he sees it, thinking the sheikh's are going to support the V8's more than the mecca of motorsport, the USA. This just proves that we won't get to those heights of being a world-renowned series, just a regional series.
 
Too bad for us Sports Tonight would spoil the results.

Just like they did with the Japanese F1 Grand Prix last night....GRRR! :mad:

Just like they always did. I watched Champ Series, motoGP, F1 and V8's when all were on ten. Every time Sports Tonight was on before the delayed telecast they would tell you who won.

The reason they probably did it this time is because Ten HD have Fuji on live ish on sunday. Then the delayed telecast on normal TV that night. idiots
 
Yeah, but the only reason why Ten hold the rights to the Grand Prix is because they want to broadast the Australian Grand Prix. I remember when back in the 1990s they used to broadcast the Japanese and Malaysian Grands Prix live, but they don't so that anymore.

Seriously, I wholly expect them to do it again when the V8s go to Bahrain, because that race usually isn't shown until about 10pm.
 
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