RTSolvalou
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Genius. I give respect where it's due for pushing the regulations to their limits, I prefer it over Ferrari who blatently fist-smash the rules when they disagree with something.
2011 Australian Grand Prix
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Seismica
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And how is that legal? Is there not a bigger punishment for misleading the FIA?
Wanna know how to equal a grid?💡 Oh FIA. Take Red Bull's front wing off.
There is nothing illegal about it. It passes the loading tests. It is to the specification stated in the regulations. The only difference I can see is that the wing planes have an odd curvature (Like I said, similar to how a fan blade is shaped, pushing the air towards the outer side of the wing).
Either that or it's a very clever weave of carbon fibre that can flex a lot more under high loads (i.e. non-linear).
/waiting for someone who knows their stuff to shoot down my fan blade front wing theory
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- bramturismo
Looks like Vettel pretty much took that title off him a while ago.
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Nah nah. Put Lewis in the Red Bull last year, he'd have sewn up the championship with 5 races to go. Put Vettel in the McLaren, he'd have been back there in the midfield.
People set too much store by Vettel. All things considered, he's no better a driver than Rosberg.
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- The__Luke
Hey, Rosberg is a good driver.
Vettel is extremly good at qualifying, but consistancy sometimes lets him down.
That and the fact he just can't make an overtake without hitting the other car.
I'm telling you all, the best Formula 1 driver in the past couple of years is Robert Kubica.
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- bramturismo
Put both drivers in the same car and they'll tear each other up. Give Vettel this season and he'll be pretty much quicker than anyone else.
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My prediction for this race is that Vettel will a) dominate and leave everyone behind or b) not finish on the podium after a mistake.
I don't think that Webber can win ether so that will leave ether a Ferrari or McLaren win. I also expect Petrov or Kobayashi to be a dark horse.
I don't think that Webber can win ether so that will leave ether a Ferrari or McLaren win. I also expect Petrov or Kobayashi to be a dark horse.
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Race predictions?
I really hope LH beats Vettel to turn 1, else its in the bag for the latter.
1. SV
2. MW (passes LH in pit stops)
3. LH
4. JB
5. NR
6. FA
7. VP
8. KK
9. RB
10. Buemi
I really hope LH beats Vettel to turn 1, else its in the bag for the latter.
1. SV
2. MW (passes LH in pit stops)
3. LH
4. JB
5. NR
6. FA
7. VP
8. KK
9. RB
10. Buemi
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Well, the trick is that Red Bull have a start-only KERS system. Vettel was observed not using his KERS button during both his Q3 flying laps, and the team have admitted that they're "doing something different" with KERS. It looks like they've tuned it in a way that lets them use it at lower revs, alowing them to use a smaler battery to help with packaging. Once they're off the line and have used the reserve up, the Red Bulls won't touch KERS for the rest of the race.
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That's not exactly KERS is it then? Anyways I can't see Vettel surviving the first lap. If I remember right in 2009 they would us something like 3 or 4 seconds of KERS going to turn 1. If Hamilton doesn't get him by the end of lap 1 then turn 1 on lap 2 would probably be where an overtake happens. Of course, turn 3 has proved popular to lock up the tyres this weekend already so Hmailton may want to try avoid overtaking there.
So many variables. So happy F1 is back.
So many variables. So happy F1 is back.
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That's not exactly KERS is it then? Anyways I can't see Vettel surviving the first lap. If I remember right in 2009 they would us something like 3 or 4 seconds of KERS going to turn 1. If Hamilton doesn't get him by the end of lap 1 then turn 1 on lap 2 would probably be where an overtake happens. Of course, turn 3 has proved popular to lock up the tyres this weekend already so Hmailton may want to try avoid overtaking there.
So many variables. So happy F1 is back.
Whilst I am not a LH fan per se, I'd love to see him and Vettel duke it out, as I think LH would shred him in a straight fight. LH issue on the start is starting in the wrong side - where the huge chunks of dead rubber live.
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Yes, it is because it works on the same concept. Red Bull still charge their KERS device the same way as everyone else does, with the batteries charging by recovering unused energy. They've just opted to use it in such a way that it can only be used once during the race. It's a KERS device, it's just applied differently. The stewards haven't said anything about it, so it's clearly legal.
So that it was more manageable for European audiences to watch. That's where the biggest audiences are. They now have to be up at 8am instead of 5am. It is, after all, the first race of the season and there are a lot of unknowns.
Seismica
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I think KERS should be banned on the first two laps, like with the DRS. That would close this loophole of a KERS which doesn't recover any kinetic energy. It's abuse of the regulations in my opinion.
Either that or KERS shouldn't be allowed to be charged at the start of a race.
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How is it abuse of the regulations any more than Renault piping the exhaust through the front of the sidepods?
Red Bull's KERS will recover kinetic energy - it just won't be able to be used during the race because Red Bull will have geared it only to be used under certain conditions.
Red Bull's KERS will recover kinetic energy - it just won't be able to be used during the race because Red Bull will have geared it only to be used under certain conditions.
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Which may be in line with the rules, but not the spirit of the rules.
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Don't give me rubbish about "the spirit of the rules". If ever a team claims that someone has something that follows the letter of the rules, but not the spirit, it's usually code for "we weren't clever enough to think of this ourselves, so we'd like to see it banned".
A start-only KERS system might offer Red Bull a massive advantage at the start of the race, but it can only be used at the start. Once the start is over, they don't get to use it anymore - but everyone else gets to use theirs.
A start-only KERS system might offer Red Bull a massive advantage at the start of the race, but it can only be used at the start. Once the start is over, they don't get to use it anymore - but everyone else gets to use theirs.
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The consequences of that accident are interesting - the circuit is now very dirty there. Someone vomited oil across the track, and they were forced to put down some kind of sand or dirt to absorb it. The V8s swept the track clear, and there's no sign of the dirt in the celebrity race, but you can bet that there's going to be some residual dirt in there, which is going to make racing on cold Pirellis intersting.
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whooo, that's a gnarly crash!
T-minus 2 hours
T-minus 2 hours
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I'm so very exited. Sister is watching the Sydney Swans play the Melbourne Demons (aussie rules football) and the weather looks clear. Luckily the game is supposed to finish before 5pm local (race time). So excited for the start!
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It's because of the difference in composition between the Pirelli tyres and the tyres used by the support races. Last year's Bridgestones worked by laying rubber down on the circuit, so even when the grip started to fade, there was a rubber line around the circuit to offer some residual grip and negate the effects of the tyres going off. But the Pirellis don't lay rubber down. They grain quickly and form marbles. What (comparatively) little rubber actually forms the racing line is then largely picked up or pushed aside by the tyres of the support series.
