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I think giving Grosjean a one race ban is the right decision by the FIA. While its harsh, that crash endangered several drivers lives. Let's hope it doesn't happen again.
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IIRC, that incident happened because Alonso cut Grosjean off and Grosjean being inexperienced (which is completely acceptable), he moved quickly to the left to not get hit by Alonso and squeezed Schumacher instead. For the most part a racing incident, but if you were going to put the blame on someone more than the others, Alonso, imo.
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I obviously wouldn't be saying the same if Alonso was injured, as I'd hope the majority of you aren't sick enough to actually argue about who caused it, and him getting a ban is just ********. There has been much worse idiotic incidents in F1, he should have a big fine and a big grid penalty, not a race ban unless the FIA plan on implementing them more often.
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It's about time race bans were issued. Maybe if they dished a few out at the start of the season, the drivers might have a bit more respect for others near them on track, not the 'I'm coming through like it or not' attitude which seems to be present at times.
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On a semi-unrelated note, I am so looking forward to the next F1Slate article.
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I made a thread for the Monza round but it got closed by one of the mods, who said it was 'Way too early for this'
EDIT: I was incorrect and posted it too early
EDIT: I was incorrect and posted it too early
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This.
In my opinion a one race ban seems pretty okay considering what he did. But I do agree with what akmuq said, stuff like this has happened before without a race ban being given.
Liuzzi received a five-place grid penalty for Singapore GP because of the crash he caused at Italian Grand Prix.
Yes, one race ban is too harsh just for this crash, but you have to look at everything else. That's why he have received a one race ban.
If Grosjean didn't have any other collisions or incidents this year apart from this one. Would he received a one race ban? I doubt it.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19765
Anyway, it goes both ways. I don't know which race, but Rosberg did something he was not supposed to do, but he didn't receive any penalty for it because he haven't been involved in many incidents.
The more incidents Maldonado and Grosjean (the worst offenders) are involved in, the worse the penalty will be.
Yes, one race ban is too harsh just for this crash, but you have to look at everything else. That's why he have received a one race ban.
If Grosjean didn't have any other collisions or incidents this year apart from this one. Would he received a one race ban? I doubt it.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19765
Anyway, it goes both ways. I don't know which race, but Rosberg did something he was not supposed to do, but he didn't receive any penalty for it because he haven't been involved in many incidents.
The more incidents Maldonado and Grosjean (the worst offenders) are involved in, the worse the penalty will be.
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I appologise. They'll re-open it on teusday for anyone interested
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1 race ban, I agree that grosjean was in the wrong however all he did was move over slightly onto hamilton, the rest was an unfortunate series of events however not directly Grosjeans fault.
There have been many incidents recently that would have deserved that much more than this one.
There have been many incidents recently that would have deserved that much more than this one.
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Hmm I see, thanks for clarifying. Nearly forgot about Alonso there.
Akmuq
Yeah agreed, it may have been a horrid mistake by Grosjean but surely there have been worse incidents (like Maldonado's intentional swipe at Spa last year?)
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The Frenchman, 26, who has been involved in seven first-lap crashes in 12 races this season, was also fined 50,000 euros. That is not a statistic to be proud of.
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Citing worse incidents that merited, but did not receive, a race ban is not a sound argument against whether this incident merits one.
It's good to see the stewards finally cracking down on reckless and thoughtless driving as they are at last doing with drivers widening lines beyond the track margins to make their corner exits easier and faster.
It's good to see the stewards finally cracking down on reckless and thoughtless driving as they are at last doing with drivers widening lines beyond the track margins to make their corner exits easier and faster.
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They should have started clamping down on that long ago. Hell, they do in the BTCC. Go wide once? Ignored. Go wide a second time? Watched. Go wide a third time? Black/white flag. Do it again? Dragged into the pits.
The trick now is getting consistency around the sport. Grosjean's incident deserves a race ban IMO, but they now need to ensure that any other blatant idiocy is punished accordingly.
I hope that Maldonado sees his constant penalties as a suggestion that he should start using his brain a bit more, but part of me expects he things he's just getting unfair treatment. Hamilton did the latter last year and got nowhere with it, and this year he's realised and kept his nose a bit cleaner.
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That one is easy to solve. Rather than penalise people, just re-profile the corner slightly for next year. People already say it's too easy to take flat, when in the past it took space-hopper balls to go flat through there. Make the right at the bottom and the left at the top a little steeper. Bingo, cars can't straight-line it as much as they used to and it also increases the difficulty of it.
Talking of space-hoppers, the Kimi/Schuey (was definitely Kimi, and think it was Schuey?) Eau Rouge move was excellent. Didn't think I'd see the Alonso/Webber move replicated any time soon, and this was almost a carbon copy.
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Apparently the stewards think that there isn't much advantage gained from there, as seen from
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/09/01/maldonado-relegated-sixth-grid-penalty/
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I'm impressed Kobayashi managed to continue at all given that Hamilton's car drove over his front right. They sure build them Saubers strong!
