2012 Nissan GTR [0-60: under 3 seconds]

[Organ-Donor]

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[Leonidae@MFT]

1.78 0-60

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anybody heard something about the next GT-R (R36)?... I just saw some fakes in a german car magazine, they look like a mix between an LF-A and a 370Z...

Speculative renders = not official.

 

[MCNAGTROC]

Anybody heard something about the next GT-R (R36)?... I just saw some fakes in a german car magazine, they look like a mix between an LF-A and a 370Z...

the R36 ( a Hybrid) is a few years off.. the 3rd generation R35 is debuting this november at the Tokyo Motor Show. It will feature a facelift as well as some "other" improvements as well as be accompanied by the NISMO version

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hybrid? Geeze...

 

[MCNAGTROC]

A hybrid is extremely exciting and will retain the GTRs cutting edge technology philosophy

exactly what path they are taking isnt known yet but its probably one of the two

1.. most likely a 400+ gas engine powering the rear wheels with a 200HPish electric engine controlling the front wheels ( think sort of Porsche 918)

2.. a 500+ engine set up driving the AWD close to what they have now with a KERS system than adds say 150hp when activated

either is a win and should take the cars performance to that next level. only drawbacks I see is an increased price point( which has already happened with the car anyway) and the car becoming less aftermarket friendly due to the hybrid tech

 

[CodeRedR51]

Just not a fan of this hybrid stuff encroaching on cars that should continue on without it.

 

[Joel]

I can get not wanting a hybrid Ferrari/Corvette etc, but I don't see how it doesn't fit with the GT-R. That's the car's entire MO, using turbocharging and other tech to help it punch above its engine size. I think a hybrid system just continues on with that, I mean, the thing uses a 3.8L V6 and smokes cars with engines twice the size. Add the ridiculous torque an electric motor provides down low and you're talking ludicrous speed.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

If the GT-R is already overweight, how bad will a hybrid GT-R be? I can agree with everything but the additional mass.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Well, I think the Hybrid Idea fits the GT-R... the actual version does 0-60/0-100 (mph/kph) in 2.8 secs... Let's say, the R36 has the same weight (1740 kilograms) and 500(petrol engine)+200(electric engine)+ another optional 50(KERS) hp... how long will it take the R36 for 60? 2.5 secs? That'd be amazing!

Ahh and looking forward to the facelift 2013

@Eunos_Cosmo

I do not think the GT-R is overweight... yes, it is very heavy but without that weight it would not have this amazing traction

 

[MCNAGTROC]

there is a rumor that the facelifted car will also get a 7 speed transmission. This would allow for better fuel economy and at the same time allow for more aggressive gearing to shave another tenth off the 0-60 from the current 2.7 to 2.6.

I dont think the car is over weight. I think it is only to people who look at a comparision in a magazine and see its 600 or whatever pounds more than the car its being tested against but in the real world I dont think its a disadvantage. I track it A LOT and dont feel it in an adverse way I do feel that its very planted and stable however. The weight does take a toll on brakes and tires though. I think the NISMO will come in hopefully 100-150 less though

 

[homeforsummer]

Latest issue of Auto Express is reporting the Nismo GT-R will hit 60 in 2 seconds. Do we know about this or not?

Sadly, can't find the equivalent article on t'internet. If I'm days out of date with this, disregard.

2 seconds to 60 is pretty staggering though. I'm only a mild speed freak but acceleration that quick from a production road car fascinates me. Quickest cars I've driven have been low 4s, and even that feels bloody fast. I can't even imagine reaching 60 in half that time.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

I think NISMO would be toting some seriously magical powers if they can pull that off.

If they do though, that would be one hell of an experience.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

0-60 in 2 seconds seems a bit unrealistic. I suppose that with great power gains and huge weight losses, along with grippy tyres they could do it, but it would be expensive and compromised.

 

[homeforsummer]

0-60 in 2 seconds seems a bit unrealistic. I suppose that with great power gains and huge weight losses, along with grippy tyres they could do it, but it would be expensive and compromised.

It's those first two that apparently do it. I suppose they're down to what, 2.5 at the moment? Strip enough weight out, give it enough power and tweak the electronics, and it's feasible.

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Mild tunes and semi-slicks have seen 0-100km/h in 2.4 seconds here (the extra 2mph would take another couple of tenths). The Willall Racing GT-R here in Aus did that at a track day in Temora, New South Wales, it had only 800kms on the odo and it was tuned to around 600hp with semi-slick Toyos.

I don't think it's entirely unrealistic. Just have to wait and see I guess

 

[MCNAGTROC]

It wont be 2 secs even. The NISMO and the refreshed car I expect it to be another tenth off. Its starting to reach the physics limit as the weight wont decrease much and HP is expected to be 570-585. The NISMOs main focus is on Aerodynamics and suspension over the base model and those aspects wont affect 0-60 much. I expect it to be 2.6. The 7 speed if that happens could be a big factor in off the line acceleration

 

[kennylmao]

It's amazing to see how far technology has come. I remember when the McLaren F1* was the fastest accelerating road car with 3.2 seconds 0-60. Now a GT-R can do it in under 3 seconds. Mind blowing.

*The F1 is still the fastest accelerating naturally aspirated road car though.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

It's amazing to see how far technology has come. I remember when the McLaren F1* was the fastest accelerating road car with 3.2 seconds 0-60. Now a GT-R can do it in under 3 seconds. Mind blowing.

*The F1 is still the fastest accelerating naturally aspirated road car though.

The Lamborghini Aventador does it in around 2.8.

 

[kennylmao]

The Lamborghini Aventador does it in around 2.8.

Okay.

 

[AudiMan2011]

Latest issue of Auto Express is reporting the Nismo GT-R will hit 60 in 2 seconds. Do we know about this or not?

Sadly, can't find the equivalent article on t'internet. If I'm days out of date with this, disregard.

2 seconds to 60 is pretty staggering though. I'm only a mild speed freak but acceleration that quick from a production road car fascinates me. Quickest cars I've driven have been low 4s, and even that feels bloody fast. I can't even imagine reaching 60 in half that time.

2 seconds is a bit far fetched. There's only so much that the demonic launch control can do without serious chassis work and weight reduction. A more realistic guess of the Nismo's 0-60 time would be closer to around 2.5 seconds. Even the standard car can do that sprint in 2.7.

 

[Fgame]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/gt-r/65391/nismo-gt-r-0-60-record

Nismo chief product specialist Hiroshi Tamura also mentions Gran Turismo and that they now make cars based on the experience and expectations of those grown up tuning cars on GT. And also suggests making Diesel Nismo.. That would be an outrage, and a sell out.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The Lamborghini Aventador does it in around 2.8.

Mclaren F1 = Fastest accelerating and fastest top speed of any two wheel drive, normally aspirated, non-hybrid assisted, production road car. And I honestly don't see this changing. Though, that is quite specific.

 

[niky]

And also suggests making Diesel Nismo.. That would be an outrage, and a sell out.

Considering the GTR's technology, all-wheel drive, turbocharging, computerized torque control, traction control and stability control... are all considered sacrilege ("sell outs") by one portion of the enthusiast population or another... for NISMO to start doing diesel would simply be status quo.

I, for one, welcome our new Diesel Overlords.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Considering the GTR's technology, all-wheel drive, turbocharging, computerized torque control, traction control and stability control... are all considered sacrilege ("sell outs") by one portion of the enthusiast population or another... for NISMO to start doing diesel would simply be status quo.

I, for one, welcome our new Diesel Overlords.

You forgot "dumb automatic" in there for the manual-only crowd... or does the catch-all of tech apply?

I'm expecting about 2.5 seconds as well - I just don't see 2.0 being possible on a street car without some massive, massive compromises.

 

[05XR8]

what of tyre technology? surely if the tyre is a semi-slick they can drop the time. and the weight? if they dropped it down to 1500kg. all carbon fibre. double the price as expected but, less than an F458, I think 2.08 is achievable. If they're not dropping weight, will electric power come into play? Nissan are clever I believe they can do it. I'd like to see it.

 

[20832]

what of tyre technology? surely if the tyre is a semi-slick they can drop the time. and the weight? if they dropped it down to 1500kg. all carbon fibre. double the price as expected but, less than an F458, I think 2.08 is achievable. If they're not dropping weight, will electric power come into play? Nissan are clever I believe they can do it. I'd like to see it.

Tyres won't be able to really improve straight line performance. It will help, and maybe dropped times by .1 or .2 Seconds, but not a whole second, or .8 of a second. The car will surely drive on Semi - Slicks though, but rather to improve cornering than 0 - 60 times.

I too believe to expect some weight savings. But I also think, that some clever suspension/differentials will come into play. The right set of suspension can improve traction, at least from my understanding.

 

[Organ-Donor]

There is only so much you can do for weight reduction in this car. The 7sec Alpha Omega was hovering around 3700 lbs I believe.

 

[niky]

Define "semi-slick"... the GT-R comes on ultra-high performance tires, but Nissan does not sell it with R-Compounds, and will not sell it with R-Compounds for street use.

Hell, when it first came out, there were little to no commercially available semi-slick R-Comps in the right size for the GT-R.

 

[20832]

Who's talking about Nissan, I thought this was more of a kit from Nismo? Also, Semi - Slicks as in Semi - Slicks. The Michellin Super Sports are close to a semi - slicks, but it's not a full blown semi - slick. And no, I don't think that the Super Sports are able to achieve the level of grip to launch it to 60 in 2 Seconds.

And from the sounds of it, this GT-R is going to be properly moddified, so I think that they'll go/went the extra mile and went for full Semi - Slicks.