2014 New Zealand / Australia General Discussion

After confirming on sunday up at robina that I could have another go at live qual in penrith, I flew down to sydney yesterday to try to put my qualification to bed via live qual instead of online qual. They weren't set up yesterday, even though it says on the nissan site that it was to be run from 28th-1st. So went back this morning instead of going karting. Did my bathurst lap with surprisingly little nerves :) Then because I was the only one there at that time, I got the option to do 2x5 or 1x10 laps. I chose the later, even though 2x5 actually gives you 1 extra 'optimal start driving line'.

Nerves kicked in as I ran some high 4's, but then I did a 4.2 on about lap 5. I started pushing a lap later, and ran a 3.8 on lap 8. I then decided to banzai the last 2 laps :) I stuffed up stowe on the following lap, running a 4 flat, but the final lap I hit everything pretty close to optimal, and ran a 3.5 :D. Which was/is currently the fastest live qual in australia ;)

I asked a few questions of the dude running the gig, and he said he didn't know the exact dates of the nationals yet.
He also said that the times for the 2 most recent rounds should be up tonight or tommorrow night online at, http://www.nissan.com.au/Discover/GT-Academy/Qualifying/Live-Qualifying
Only top 3 times go up on the site, but he also confirmed that it's the top 14 overall across all venues that go through. So for example, none of the clipsal guys will probably get through.

I also asked if we would be using the same pods as at these live quals, and he wasn't sure. Also spoke to one of the marketing guys from nissan that was helping set up, and he basically confirmed that the Aus/UAE/Thailand/India/etc UK final is for 1 winner. And that the US/Canada, Germany, and 'Europe' divisions also resulted in 1 winner each. i.e. it's not just 1 winner from the whole of the globe so to speak.

So, I should see some of you at the nationals in approx 4ish weeks time :) YEEHAA!

Cheers,
metal
 
I'm impressed that you were willing to fly down to Sydney. I can totally understand though, for the chance to have a racing career, if I was good enough I'd do it too. Just out of curiosity though, are you intending to still do the online quali? Were you mainly worried about not being able to quite get into the top online qualifiers?

Also, I know it's probably somewhere back in this thread but I couldn't find it, what is the combo you're driving at these live qualis? I'm interested in having a go at home just to see how I go.

Cheers!
 
Just been out there myself and qualified.

Firstly, the rigs suck. Terrible.

Secondly, for some reason they were using the GTR black edition for both races and not the Gt3 for Bathurst like they were at other events. . But you still had to beat the same time (2:17.000) to be able to qualify.

Spoke to the guy running it, he seems to think they will be using the same rigs at the national final. Also said that the cutoff time at the moment is about a 1:04.4.
 
MisterWeary
Just out of curiosity though, are you intending to still do the online quali? Were you mainly worried about not being able to quite get into the top online qualifiers?

Also, I know it's probably somewhere back in this thread but I couldn't find it, what is the combo you're driving at these live qualis? I'm interested in having a go at home just to see how I go.

Cheers!
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Yep, i'll still do the online qual, but at least now I don't need to dedicate the next 2 weeks to solely one car/track combo. Odds on though, the final round track/car combo will also be run in the gt6 racing rounds at the national final, so I still need to spend significant time at that specific combo. But it takes the pressure off trying to make the top 14 online cuttoff time, which i'm guessing will be around 3 to 4 tenths, and having only bought the sim about 5 and a bit weeks ago, I would be pushing to make the online qual cut I reckon without doing at least 20-30 hours over the next 2 weeks just on that combo.

The other main reason I wanted to get through via live qual is that I still need to learn around 30 other tracks, as they will throw us on a few random tracks at the nationals. So yeah, i'll be off the top online time by several tenths by the end of the final online qual round. And i'd be aiming to get it down to about 3 tenths by the national final.

In answer to the combo for the live qual. They get you to do a 2 lap arcade race at bathurst first. You can pass all the AI by skyline, and you can basically do a fast enough lap by the end of lap 1. The dude running the show just needs to see that you can actually do a decent lap, something around 2.14-2.18. I'm actually not sure on the car, because I practiced the wrong car before my robina qual, lol. I didn't worry about finding out what it was at the time, but really you don't need a perfect lap to be allowed to do the qual round.

The qual round is GTR black edition at Silverstone International. ABS on 1, Traction on 1, ideal line is left on, but you have to ignore it as it's completely wrong :). All other aids are off. Laptimes need to be at least a low 4 to probably put you on the bubble. Anything near 4 flat, to below 4 should get you through.

Cheers,
metal
 
metalslaw
After confirming on sunday up at robina that I could have another go at live qual in penrith, I flew down to sydney yesterday to try to put my qualification to bed via live qual instead of online qual. They weren't set up yesterday, even though it says on the nissan site that it was to be run from 28th-1st. So went back this morning instead of going karting. Did my bathurst lap with surprisingly little nerves :) Then because I was the only one there at that time, I got the option to do 2x5 or 1x10 laps. I chose the later, even though 2x5 actually gives you 1 extra 'optimal start driving line'.

Nerves kicked in as I ran some high 4's, but then I did a 4.2 on about lap 5. I started pushing a lap later, and ran a 3.8 on lap 8. I then decided to banzai the last 2 laps :) I stuffed up stowe on the following lap, running a 4 flat, but the final lap I hit everything pretty close to optimal, and ran a 3.5 :D. Which was/is currently the fastest live qual in australia ;)

Cheers,
metal
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thats heaps lucky.. we only got 5 laps at Clipsal..
 
Carbonfibre
Man that hits me right in the unfairs.... 1x10 would have been my choice too if we had the option :(

I'll just have to get it done online :/
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Well I thought you were allowed 2 goes at the Bathurst qualifying and that's it. So to get a whole other qualifying run is a bit off to me.

Mind you, when I was there, I saw someone doing the Bathurst qual, drop a right rear wheel on the grass and slide to the infield, only to put the boot in it, cut the track and finish inside the qual time. No-one batted an eyelid.

This is starting to remind me of how poorly and inconsistent it was run last time.
 
Yeah another thing you can run wide coming onto the back straight at Silverstone and as long as you get the line right you wont invalidate your lap, I couldn't bring myself to do it at the event but did see one guy doing it and he managed a low 1:04. When I told the guy who was running the show he just said it was the same for everyone.... :/
 
Yeah you can and you can't. I did it on one of my laps and it red lapped me, missed the kerbs and stayed 4 wheels on the tarmac and still invalidated me. Hit and miss so better to be safe than sorry.

Yeah the way they are running the live events with enforcing the "rules" is a bit ordinary. Hopefully the national final will be run a lot clearer and stricter if i make it.
 
Some events have allowed you to go straight to qualifying instead of doing the Bathurst race, the short cut system works the same as in time trial in GT6 so honestly doing enough laps in practise should give you the idea of what will be a red lap and what isn't.
 
No definitely not the same when it comes to red laps. In particular the right onto the Hanger straight. I can go wide with 4 wheels over the white line and still on the tarmac at home, and it will never give me a red lap (even two wheels on the grass). At the live event it did. twice.

Also they have cones at the live event too, so maybe because it is an earlier build the limits are different.

Also from what I hear the Bathurst race at other live events used the GT3 N24 car, at NSW we had to use the GTR Road Black Edition. And still had to hit the same qualifying time as those who used the GT3.
 
No not like these rounds, but cones out on the 'dead' part of the track as you turn onto Hangar. They aren't there on updated builds of the game so maybe the track limits changed in past updates.
 
joshmuggo
Yeah you can and you can't. I did it on one of my laps and it red lapped me, missed the kerbs and stayed 4 wheels on the tarmac and still invalidated me. Hit and miss so better to be safe than sorry.

Yeah the way they are running the live events with enforcing the "rules" is a bit ordinary. Hopefully the national final will be run a lot clearer and stricter if i make it.
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Agreed. I asked before I started and was told due to there being 6 pods in Melb and Adelaide it was too tough to police all the pods. So its the game that you go by. He did say don't hit any cones though. I know exactly where all the invalid points are on the track and I did screw a couple of corners so tried to drive around to avoid invalidating the lap. However, they sort of seems 'bigger' in the version there. Could have been the rig as it was a very different to what Im used too.

That said though, if you do the lines right you don't need to worry about it, also if you go off track your defeating the whole purpose. There are rules to keep it fair, and there are still quite a few guys who are quick always keeping within the lines.

My best lap was super clean, with no risk of invalidating. Would have loved to have done another few laps as finally was getting a feel for it. Had an easy 3-4 tenths to make up. But hey everyone is in the same boat. We all have to deal with the funky pods. Im praying that my time is good enough to make the cut. Time will tell.
 
joshmuggo
Well I thought you were allowed 2 goes at the Bathurst qualifying and that's it. So to get a whole other qualifying run is a bit off to me.

Mind you, when I was there, I saw someone doing the Bathurst qual, drop a right rear wheel on the grass and slide to the infield, only to put the boot in it, cut the track and finish inside the qual time. No-one batted an eyelid.

This is starting to remind me of how poorly and inconsistent it was run last time.
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Well, I don't know the specific rules on the bathurst run, but from what I heard, if you didn't do a fast enough bathurst lap in the 2 lap arcade race, you had 1 more shot and that's it. At both venues, I did my bathurst fastlap on the first go, so it didn't matter.

In terms of doing a 2nd venue qual attempt, yeah, that's not really fair, but that was the rule. I actually questioned him twice on it up at Robina because it didn't sound right. He said he couldn't really ask people who go to the v8 race rounds (melb f1, clipsal, perth rounds) to 'don't come try each time', so the same rule applied to the robina and penrith rounds. I think it was more to help the promotion at each round, and the fairness of the rule took a back seat. Saying that though, a single attempt only per round was enforced. i.e. the single attempt is that you get 2 attempts at bathurst (if you need the 2nd attempt), then you get the 2x5 or 1x10 qual laps at silverstone.

I was just somewhat lucky to get the 1x10 attempt instead of 2x5 with a gap in time. There wasn't anyone lined up when I did my bathurst attempt, and still no one lined up when he switched it onto silverstone, so essentially it didn't matter. I'd be doing 10 laps straight regardless, so the advantage was their whether it was 2x5 or 1x10. I even though that I should do the 2x5 at the time, because I could then get an extra lead in optimal line for the '6th'(1st lap of 2nd 5 lap run) lap if I stuffed up the last 2nd gear corner of the 5th lap in my 10 lap attempt.

I chose the 10 lap attempt just because I felt it might help settle my nerves by not stopping (it didn't, they got worse from lap 4 to 8). It wasn't until the 3.8 lap on the 8th lap that I knew I had a good time, and from that point on, I just pushed as hard as I could.

As far as how the competition is being run for the live events with course cuts and such, I hit the wall at bathurst a few times passing the AI's, and he didn't care. Most people off the street just crash non stop for 2 laps, so I think the bathurst attempt is just to sort the good from the bad :P

For silverstone, the track out running wide onto hanger straight also wasn't being enforced other than by the game. You could mow a cone down, and it was fine. I don't agree to that either, but that was the rule, and it was enforced that way since the live rounds started I guess, and you have to use what you have been given. In real life, they run out to that track out part anyway, so I think it's more a problem within the game than a rule to be enforced by a judge. They would also need multiple judges watching every lap to enforce a stay inside the cones track out rule.
 
joshmuggo
No not like these rounds, but cones out on the 'dead' part of the track as you turn onto Hangar. They aren't there on updated builds of the game so maybe the track limits changed in past updates.
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When I practiced at home, the track out was actually really consistent. You could actually track out over the 'straight hanger line' and inside the first cone at track out and it wouldn't dq you. I just had to ensure that I didn't hit the line with the right side of the car. Wider than that was always fine until you started to run onto the grass.

Saying that though, I always aimed to stay inside that cone, as any wider always felt slower due to often having to do a small lift.

Also, when I ran in free run mode offline, the cones were in identical spots, so I don't know how that happened? (compared to your gt6 josh)

It also makes sense that the game is stock standard given the different feeling in physics compared to my free run offline practice. I reckon the stock game black gtr actually has a little less grip to what we have in a current gt6 build, and that's why it feels different physics wise i.e. the little left kink over the curb before the right onto hanger, I always had to do a tiny lift in the live qual, were as offline in the current build it's flat.

I wonder if they will be running stock or updated build at the nationals?...
 
I don't think they will come out with the list of live event qualifiers prior or during the last round of online quals, but if your around 1:04 flat or below in the live event, you will probably get through that way.

The list I have atm of those who will probably get through via live qual already includes a number of drivers who have posted times in the top 250 of the first 3 rounds online.

Odds are, the 20th placed aussie in the online rounds will be right on the cutoff of top 14, but it may go as far as 22nd or 23rd, as their maybe a few ineligible's that are high on the list as well.
 
What's the go with Dan Holland? He hasn't been online over 5 days and hasn't put a single lap into last round? I am guessing Uni study or tests??? Is he ineligible since he went to race camp in 2010??? Who knows??
 
from what i know in the top 14: Joshmuggo, warrior2167, MINT-GTR


Beau231 is also underage

Also keep in mind those that qualified by live event, will lose that live event promotion if they get a higher result in Online, the live event spot will then go to the next highest outside of the top 15 in the live event and vice versa for online.
 
mustafur
from what i know in the top 14: Joshmuggo, warrior2167, MINT-GTR


Beau231 is also underage

Also keep in mind those that qualified by live event, will lose that live event promotion if they get a higher result in Online, the live event spot will then go to the next highest outside of the top 15 in the live event and vice versa for online.
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Just grabbed this from ROTORAU86 post from another thread, which shows a reply from the GT academy team:

Just got a reply, just to confirm.


Hi Scott, Thanks for your message. I've checked this with the team, and if it happens that one of the qualifiers from a Live Event is also in a qualifying position in the online leaderboards, it would go to the next fastest online qualifier. Keep pushing though to get as high on the leaderboard as possible! Thanks, GT Academy Team


So as of right now, myself, Warrior and Joshmuggo are all not counted online regardless of how high we get so the top 14 eligible will stretch out to 17th spot at this point.
 
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