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[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Dave Ryan - who was Lewis Hamilton's engineer in 2009 when Hamilton was caught lying to the stewards about passing Trulli under yellows in Melbourne - has joined Manor as sporting director. The team is said to be trying to coax Alex Wurz into the team principal role.

Okay, what was the point of the Hamilton bit? Also why Wurz, I know lately he seems to be the new (old) thing in F1 and he just posted a twitter message the other day about hanging up his helmet for good and he's on to new things (potential implication I suppose), but why...him.

 

[Denur]

when Hamilton was caught lying to the stewards about passing Trulli under yellows in Melbourne

Why is this relevant?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Why is this relevant?

Because Ryan hasn't been in the sport since he was fired by McLaren for his role in the incident - he has been working in GT racing. I was simply referring to it so that people can put an event to the name "Dave Ryan".

 

[Denur]

Because Ryan hasn't been in the sport since he was fired by McLaren for his role in the incident - he has been working in GT racing. I was simply referring to it so that people can put an event to the name "Dave Ryan".

I didn't know he played a role in the incident. Thank you.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Meanwhile, Toto Wolff says that independent new engine proposal "does his head in".

Well, Toto, why don't you do something about it and so something that is good for the sport as a whole rather than something that is only good for Mercedes?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Because Ryan hasn't been in the sport since he was fired by McLaren for his role in the incident - he has been working in GT racing. I was simply referring to it so that people can put an event to the name "Dave Ryan".

The BBC say (and I have no idea how true this is) that "many people in F1" think that he was a fall guy in the incident;

It is widely believed in F1 that Ryan was not responsible for the incident, but was forced to take public responsibility.

He certainly got a good redundancy payment and had no trouble moving to McLaren sportscar management. Ron-speak was probably never more in evidence than when he said "Ryan is no longer an employee of any of the McLaren Group's constituent companies" (source) - completely and literally true. In that nanosecond.

I think he's a good choice for them, I'm not so sure about Alex Wurz as the ultimate team boss though, however much of a likeable character he is.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Eh, it was popular to slag off on McLaren at the time. Hamilton and Ryan were called to the stewards. Hamilton said one thing - that he had passed Trulli under yellows - in public, conferred with Ryan, and then said the opposite to the stewards.

 

[DK]

Speaking of McLaren, TAG Heuer will be ending their sponsorship with them. However, they'll still be associated with their parent company through a new deal with Candon. GPUpdate

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Because Ryan hasn't been in the sport since he was fired by McLaren for his role in the incident - he has been working in GT racing. I was simply referring to it so that people can put an event to the name "Dave Ryan".

Erm I wouldn't say completely fired from McLaren, he runs Von Ryan racing who just happen to be the McLaren Factory GT team......

 

[TenEightyOne]

Erm I wouldn't say completely fired from McLaren

Then you'd be wrong, at the time Ron Dennis was clear that he had. He was re-employed in another capacity later. Shennanigans for sure, but that's how it happened.

he runs Von Ryan racing who just happen to be the McLaren Factory GT team......

Which I think both PM and I had already pointed out, amongst others?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'll probably be setting up the new thread soon after Abu or perhaps before, since most of the stuff we're seeing on the cars is now geared for next year. All I planned to do (when semester and season is over) is break down the cars, and with you guys see what actually put certain teams above others, outside of money and engines and drivers for the most part.

Before that happens let's talk about the Merc design that we saw in Brazil FP, where it had the cool looking hood scoop like s-duct that was in fact not a functioning s-duct at all. Rather it was Mercedes looking to use a higher chassis based car next year and thus improve on air flow under the car to reap those benefits and become even faster. I'm sure if they wanted they could also make an s-duct as well to look like that, but the point is that it wasn't to take over the top properties of the car.

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom...15/11/analysis---mercedes-mystery-s-duct.html

 

[GTPorsche]

Ilmor and Advanced Engine Systems have registered for the 2017 budget engine program. Cosworth has been tossed around in the "interested" side of it as well.

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/14177561/ilmor-aer-register-interest-budget-engine-supply

 

[TenEightyOne]

Ilmor and Advanced Engine Systems have registered for the 2017 budget engine program. Cosworth has been tossed around in the "interested" side of it as well.

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/14177561/ilmor-aer-register-interest-budget-engine-supply

Cosworth have now ruled themselves out of the programme (at least for 2017) as "the costs are too high", according to Motorsport.com - not always the greatest of sources.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

They plagiarised a Wikipedia article - their team profile on Ferrari - recently, so I avoid them like the plague.

 

[GTPorsche]

Plagiarizing a wikipedia article? That's stooping pretty low.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I note @prisonermonkeys' comment and wholeheartedly agree. In this case they claim to have a direct quote, however true that is. I don't see the story picked up or confirmed on any other F1 news outlet at all.

Here's the Motorsport article, for whatever it's worth.

 

[DK]

The F1 Commission has voted against the cost-capped engines proposed by the FIA. Autosport Motorsport.com

Instead, they've proposed to address the FIA's cost concerns with the current power units, such as:

• Guarantee of the supply of Power Units to teams
• The need to lower the cost of Power Units to customer teams
• Simplification of the technical specification of the power units
• Improved noise

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Instead, they've proposed to address the FIA's cost concerns with the current power units, such as:

One suspects that this is what the FIA wanted all along.

 

[TenEightyOne]

This is PlanetF1 quoting motorsport.com and, perhaps more definitively; Speedweek (Red Bull's own magazine). In all we're led to believe that there's still no guarantee that Red Bull (or STR) will compete in F1 next year.

http://planetf1.com/news/red-bull-owner-still-unsure-about-2016/?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

This is PlanetF1 quoting motorsport.com and, perhaps more definitively; Speedweek (Red Bull's own magazine). In all we're led to believe that there's still no guarantee that Red Bull (or STR) will compete in F1 next year.

So, fringe publication quoting source known to be unreliable in turn quoting the Ministry of Propaganda, then?

Actual reliable journalists like James Allen reckon that an announcement will be made in Abu Dhabi, probably to use rebadged Renaults in 2016.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Red Bull have engines. Whose engines? Uh ...

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/121999/red-bull-secures-2016-f1-engine-deal

 

[Barra333]

Horner: We have an engine agreement
Article author: Renault confirmed

I love journalism

 

[GTPorsche]

Man, Renault Confirmed is my favorite writer.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

There's lots of talk about Formula 1 "needing to decide what it wants to be" from 2017 onwards, but I have to say that I am not confident that the sport will get it right.

For one, it needs to get rid of its obsession with "improving the show". The sport convinced itself that the fans want to see lots of passing, but I think that's fundamentally wrong. A better way forward would be to introduce the potential for more passing, but no guarantee of it.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Despite Lotus's confidence that the deal will be signed this weekend it seems that there are still wrangles between Bernie/Renault about the prize money. If Renault F1 can't convince the board that entering the sport is a meaningful investment then it won't happen.

Perhaps this is why RBR are delaying announcing their engine supplier... it seems that they possibly don't have one. BBC.

EDIT: While on another page the BBC report that the RBR/Renault deal is definitely signed and just to be announced.

 

[Dennisch]

RBR with Renault engines backed by Ilmor. That's what has just been said by the Dutch commentator during FP3.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

RBR with Renault engines backed by Ilmor. That's what has just been said by the Dutch commentator during FP3.

Yet ilmor just said he wouldn't do this a couple weeks ago or it wasn't part of his plan.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Yet ilmor just said he wouldn't do this a couple weeks ago or it wasn't part of his plan.

One of "him" is actually dead, as I recall.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

One of "him" is actually dead, as I recall.

Meant to say they considering how close Ilien's name is to Ilmor that's probably why I said he. And no one is talking about Morgan who is dead, so not sure why you brought that up. If it's a joke I sorely missed it, sorry.

 

[TenEightyOne]

If it's a joke I sorely missed it, sorry.

That's okay, fortunately I was here to explain it