2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[ProjectWHaT]

That silver/gray 'Stang looks much more aggressive than the other ones.

 

[Slash]

Not really "new" news, but apparently there's a rumor floating around that a twin turbo, 650hp Ecoboost V8 is under development.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2016-ford-mustang-cobra-r-rendering-75206.html
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...ost-twin-turbo-v8-for-2015-mustang-69937.html

 

[Badasp5.0]

Not really "new" news, but apparently there's a rumor floating around that a twin turbo, 650hp Ecoboost V8 is under development.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2016-ford-mustang-cobra-r-rendering-75206.html
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...ost-twin-turbo-v8-for-2015-mustang-69937.html

I hope so but those rumors have being going since that twin turbo Cobra Jet show/concept car was made a while back.

 

[ildd]

How the hell can you have an ecoboost V8 that makes 650 hp...Vtec?

 

[Slash]

How the hell can you have an ecoboost V8 that makes 650 hp...Vtec?

Wouldn't be hard, especially with twin turbo's. I mean hell, they are getting 662 out of the current 5.8L.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Wouldn't be hard, especially with twin turbo's. I mean hell, they are getting 662 out of the current 5.8L.

And the Coyote does have variable valve timing. Hell with turbos getting 650 out of a old school Windsor would be cake. A friend of mine has a DD 5.0 LX coupe with a Hellion kit that gets 670 on a mild tune.

 

[Slash]

And the Coyote does have variable valve timing. Hell with turbos getting 650 out of a old school Windsor would be cake. A friend of mine has a DD 5.0 LX coupe with a Hellion kit that gets 670 on a mild tune.

I believe it. My old tech teachers son had a 306 single turbo that was laying down just over 600. A 351W stroker with twin turbo's that was well built could easily lay down 800+, considering it's NASCAR variant made that N/A....

 

[ildd]

I meant that, like... what is ecoboost at that point? 30 mpg in 6th gear at 1800rpm?

 

[Badasp5.0]

I meant that, like... what is ecoboost at that point? 30 mpg in 6th gear at 1800rpm?

Probably. I wouldn't mind it. I hate how some performance cars are only lightly over driven on the top gear. The STi comes to mind. Its a damn highway gear not an acceleration gear!

 

[Slash]

I meant that, like... what is ecoboost at that point? 30 mpg in 6th gear at 1800rpm?

Depending on overall gearing in the axle, transmission and tire size.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I meant that, like... what is ecoboost at that point? 30 mpg in 6th gear at 1800rpm?

Have you ever driven a Corvette? That thing idles at highway speeds.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

And cosidering the fact that ecoboost motors this far have been developing most of the torque and boost from what, 1200-1500rpm onwards?

 

[Keef]

Its a damn highway gear not an acceleration gear!

In America it's a highway gear. In the US, car companies can't count above 5 so anything higher than that is simply for cruising the highway. But in the rest of the world they can actually count so they give cars six whole useable gears. Sometimes 7.

 

[Badasp5.0]

In America it's a highway gear. In the US, car companies can't count above 5 so anything higher than that is simply for cruising the highway. But in the rest of the world they can actually count so they give cars six whole useable gears. Sometimes 7.

Sorry I would like to have a highway gear in my Japanese Subaru Legacy with a 5 Speed because doing 75mph @ 4kRPM is not good for MPG or wear. Honestly I might be a regional thing to. Around here I can go a few hundred miles in any direction and not hit a major city so a highway gear is a damn good thing. That space of distance in Europe and Japan is not there so that might something to do with it.

 

[Slash]

Sorry I would like to have a highway gear in my Japanese Subaru Legacy with a 5 Speed because doing 75mph @ 4kRPM is not good for MPG or wear. Honestly I might be a regional thing to. Around here I can go a few hundred miles in any direction and not hit a major city so a highway gear is a damn good thing. That space of distance in Europe and Japan is not there so that might something to do with it.

Yeah newer cars are geared towards top speed and MPG's now. You don't see that with old cars, it was literally about brutal acceleration.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Yeah newer cars are geared towards top speed and MPG's now. You don't see that with old cars, it was literally about brutal acceleration.

My legacy is not even close to brutal acceleration LOL. I wish It was geared to MPG it only gets a few more MPG than my Cobra.

 

[Slash]

A lot of first gears on new cars are just plain to short. You see it all the time, in person and on YouTube. Ever see a video of a guy in some Mustang or Camaro trying to burn out in first and bounces off the limiter? First are way too short IMO, escpecially since most have highway gears in the axle which surprised me.

Watch an old car do that and they never bounce.

 

[Badasp5.0]

A lot of first gears on new cars are just plain to short. You see it all the time, in person and on YouTube. Ever see a video of a guy in some Mustang or Camaro trying to burn out in first and bounces off the limiter? First are way too short IMO, escpecially since most have highway gears in the axle which surprised me.

Watch an old car do that and they never bounce.

Tell me about it, my Cobra's 1st gear is a 3.35 where Fox mustangs is a 2.95. Its a super quick gear with my 3:73s in the rear end.

 

[Slash]

2.95 even with 3.73s is still short. 2.50 and under would be perfect with 3.73's. It's basically pointless if you've got to launch in 2nd or even 3rd all the time.

 

[Badasp5.0]

2.95 even with 3.73s is still short. 2.50 and under would be perfect with 3.73's. It's basically pointless if you've got to launch in 2nd or even 3rd all the time.

Its kinda fun around town. Plus launching on drag radials in 1st is a rush.

 

[Slash]

I guess I don't understand. I don't want my RPMs going to 6k in .2 seconds and having to shift at 15mph at full throttle.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

New renders.

I like the silver the most.

 

[Badasp5.0]

I guess I don't understand. I don't want my RPMs going to 6k in .2 seconds and having to shift at 15mph at full throttle.

It makes for a good .60 foot time. I have a Steeda short shifter so the 1st to 2nd is quick.

 

[Slash]

Yeah but it's still annoying to have to shift that fast I like being able to ride out 55mph in first gear lmao.

 

[ildd]

My car has a 5 speed (auto) and sits at 3200 rpm at 77 mph...but it goes to 142. A 6th gear would help tremendously as the absolute most MPG I've ever got was 24.3.

 

[Slash]

My car has a 5 speed (auto) and sits at 3200 rpm at 77 mph...but it goes to 142. A 6th gear would help tremendously as the absolute most MPG I've ever got was 24.3.

My van has a 4 speed auto with no tach (want to add one) and 3.3L V6, and I get about 22.

 

[Keef]

Sorry I would like to have a highway gear in my Japanese Subaru Legacy with a 5 Speed because doing 75mph @ 4kRPM is not good for MPG or wear. Honestly I might be a regional thing to. Around here I can go a few hundred miles in any direction and not hit a major city so a highway gear is a damn good thing. That space of distance in Europe and Japan is not there so that might something to do with it.

That's the point I was making. Historically, US-model cars are the only ones that had very tall gearing because of our big, torquey engines and vast highways. Plus, European and Japanese cars tend to be oriented to either city driving or motorsports, not cruising lazily for hours. Their attitude toward motorsports is also a very regional difference.

 

[Slash]

That's the point I was making. Historically, US-model cars are the only ones that had very tall gearing because of our big, torquey engines and vast highways. Plus, European and Japanese cars tend to be oriented to either city driving or motorsports, not cruising lazily for hours. Their attitude toward motorsports is also a very regional difference.

I've never known many cars that had very tall gear. Most, if not all V8 cars back in the day were extremely short. The smaller engine cars got the highway gears. This started to change into the late 80s early 90s though.

 

[Badasp5.0]

That's the point I was making. Historically, US-model cars are the only ones that had very tall gearing because of our big, torquey engines and vast highways. Plus, European and Japanese cars tend to be oriented to either city driving or motorsports, not cruising lazily for hours. Their attitude toward motorsports is also a very regional difference.

I thought it was a rant about American cars not having more than 5 gears LOL.

 

[Slash]

I thought it was a rant about American cars not having more than 5 gears LOL.

I actually like having less gears sometimes. The pickup only has 3, and it's perfect.