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[Mike Rotch]

Will be extremely interested to see if Rossi gets penalty points/ yellow cards or time or fines given the championship

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Will be extremely interested to see if Rossi gets penalty points/ yellow cards or time or fines given the championship

Anything that affects the title would be unfair, because it was clearly retaliation for Marquez and his dangerous moves. The fairest thing to do would be to fine Rossi and put both on probation.

 

[Mike-ZENKAI]

Will be extremely interested to see if Rossi gets penalty points/ yellow cards or time or fines given the championship

Will they have the balls to do that?

I think he should be penalized even though Marquez was really asking for it.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Will they have the balls to do that?

I think he should be penalized even though Marquez was really asking for it.

Is the judiciary spanish?

 

[ShiftingGears]

Disgraceful from Marquez. Some of those moves that he was making were bloody stupid - how many times did they touch? Half a dozen? And how many times did he cut Rossi off and fotce him to back out of an accident? It was an accident waiting to happen, and not the kind that just sees a rider going down in a low-side - the kind that Marco Simoncelli had.

It was good, hard racing. If it were anyone else we would be celebrating how good the battle was.

Marquez ought to know that if you're not racing for the title, you don't do anything that endangers the race of a title contender.

This is rubbish - they are competitors, they compete for themselves. It takes two to tango.

That, and he only moved to slow Marquez down and send him a message; Marquez fell on his own. Rossi just hastened the inevitable, but did it at a safe speed.

Also rubbish. He actually kicked out at Marquez.

 

[JockeP22]

This feels sooo strange. Ever since the Thursday press conference really.

It's like someone has a voodoo doll on Valentino Rossi, controlling his actions.

 

[adam46]

My username says a lot about my allegiances, but I have nothing to say.

Very, very disappointed with what I've just seen.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Rossi's argument in the post-race interview is that Marquez was costing him time, so he was trying to force him to slow down and drag race him down the back straight to try and lose him, but Marquez fell.

This is rubbish - they are competitors, they compete for themselves.

The basic rules of motorsport etiquette demand that you don't jeopardise another competitor's race if they are fighting for the title and you are not.

He actually kicked out at Marquez.

Of course Honda are going to say it was a kick. It's more likely Rossi was blocking to prevent contact, since it's impossible to kick from a bike.

It was good, hard racing.

It was dangerous. On more than one occasion, Marquez positioned himself to force Rossi to back out or have an accident. You can get away with it in a car, but not on a bike.

 

[Mike-ZENKAI]

since it's impossible to kick from a bike.

???

 

[tomhart9]

The championship standings and who is and isn't involved in the title race shouldn't be taken into account on any penalties. That's no how rules and regulations work.

IMO Marc was just racing super hard and FAIR. Rossi wanted to make a point that he just wanted to get on and catch Lorenzo and took it too far and messed it up, you could tell when he looked back immediately after he was thinking "oh 🤬! Didn't mean to do that..."

 

[mustafur]

Rossi deserves a DSQ.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I dunno, I've watched the replay and it doesn't look great ito a kick, it seems like a pretty gently one, one that shouldnt have translated into a front wash out. Maybe as he swung his knee out it caught MM braking hand and forced him to close the brake, hence the spill.

 

[tomhart9]

Clearly the running wide was deliberate but I can't imagine Rossi meant to knock him off. I think the leg was a knee jerk reaction to Marc knocking into his leg.

Sorry, couldn't help myself...

 

[mustafur]

Doesn't matter Marquez was fighting with him, he wasn't doing anything remotely as dirty as that.

No excuse and should be no tolerance.

 

[HKS racer]

Rossi deserves a DSQ.

I don't think so the only one who deserve DSQ is Marc Marquez for the next race.
Telemetry speak. I never see in 20 years of bike racing a repeated unfair attitude.
He also gave up position immediately on Jeorge Lorenzo. That's just rubbish.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Doesn't matter Marquez was fighting with him, he wasn't doing anything remotely as dirty as that.

Ironic if MM cries foul, given his general disregard for decorum in the last 4 years. It's all academic, MM will have red mist in front of him home fans and I'm not sure VR has dry pace to do what he needs to do.

Also, if he is DQ'd, JL's title wil become known as the one "he was handed" not won.

 

[HKS racer]

Doesn't matter Marquez was fighting with him, he wasn't doing anything remotely as dirty as that.

No excuse and should be no tolerance.

Marquez attempted several times to cause a crash with Rossi taking illogical risks on overtakes.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Rossi should be disqualified but I think I would have done the same thing in the heat of the moment after Phillip Island, qualifying and then the race. I didn't think Marc could be such a bitter ****

 

[mustafur]

Handed to by Rossi, yes.

 

[mustafur]

To those that didn't see it:

 

[tomhart9]

Marquez did nothing wrong, it's a RACE he's entitled to battle as hard as the rules allow, as is Rossi. It's likely Rossi went too far.

 

[HKS racer]

Dorna spanish.

Lorenzo spaniard.

Marquez spaniard.

Last grand prix spanish.

Jury spanish?

Rossi not spaniard.

 

[Mike-ZENKAI]

Not many Lorenzo fans in Sepang. He was rather quickly gone from the podium as well.

EDIT: He must think of a nice X-mas present for Marquez for helping him out.
(Not that he really needed it)

 

[Mike Rotch]

Marquez did nothing wrong, it's a RACE he's entitled to battle as hard as the rules allow, as is Rossi. It's likely Rossi went too far.

Only he was selectively racing; he basically waved JL through today and then cut up Rossi repeatedly.

 

[HKS racer]

Marquez did nothing wrong

Telemetry can prove him wrong though.
A rider is not supposed to damage hinder and try to crash a single rider repeatedly.
If you allow this you allow manipulation and corruption.

 

[spyrrari]

Only he was selectively racing; he basically waved JL through today and then cut up Rossi repeatedly.

This!!



Spy.

 

[mustafur]

Dorna spanish.

Lorenzo spaniard.

Marquez spaniard.

Last grand prix spanish.

Jury spanish?

Rossi not spaniard.

98% of fans blindly Rossi fans.

 

[Mike Rotch]

I think this is the current PP system:

Race Direction can sanction a rider with between 1 and 10 Penalty Points for 'endangering other riders or committing other serious offences'. Points accumulate with punishments given once 4 points (back of the grid start at next race), 7 points (pit lane start at next race) and 10 points (disqualification from next race) are reached.

Give him 3, let boys be boys

 

[tomhart9]

Only he was selectively racing; he basically waved JL through today and then cut up Rossi repeatedly.

That's still allowed in the rules, maybe a bit of a jerk move but nothing illegal.

Telemetry can prove him wrong though.
A rider is not supposed to damage hinder and try to crash a single rider repeatedly.
If you allow this you allow manipulation and corruption.

What's telemetry going to prove?? Genuine question...

I disagree there was any deliberate attempt to crash by either of them. Marc is famously an aggressive rider

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Jury spanish?

You will have to take that up with Mike Webb, of the Barcelona Webbs.