2016 NASCAR Discussion ThreadNASCAR

[Carbonox]

To be fair, this was a total fluke of a victory. He didn't have enough fuel to make it to the end, so the race absolutely had to end early for him to have any chance to win. His crew chief didn't even know fog was coming, as it couldn't be seen on radar. He was only still out there because a flat tire earlier in the race had gotten him off-sequence, so he had more fuel than everyone else at that moment in the race.

Had Danica won the race by this manner, we would be totally picking her apart for it, giving her zero credit for pure blind luck. I think it's only fair to give Buescher the same credit.

I'm aware of the flukiness, I followed the GTP commentary of the race. (Wasn't aware of the crew chief not being aware of all the weather conditions, though.) My post was more like a jab at our favorite ex-GoDaddy girl for continued incompetence even on her fourth year of full-time competition, now even getting beaten to a first win by drivers who should regularly finish multiple laps down because of the equipment they're in.

Look we're wasting time on this. He won, he's a likeable dude who has potential (basing that off of what he's done with an otherwise **** team). A win is a win and I'm happy it was Chris Buescher. Yes its a rain win and people shouldn't over blow it, but those have happened a lot and will continue to happen.

To be fair, it is a pretty big thing because this might well be the worst car that has won a Cup race in a long, long time. It's the equivalent of Norm Benning winning a truck race, or something.

 

[catamount39]

I'm aware of the flukiness, I followed the GTP commentary of the race. (Wasn't aware of the crew chief not being aware of all the weather conditions, though.) My post was more like a jab at our favorite ex-GoDaddy girl for continued incompetence even on her fourth year of full-time competition, now even getting beaten to a first win by drivers who should regularly finish multiple laps down because of the equipment they're in.

To be fair, it is a pretty big thing because this might well be the worst car that has won a Cup race in a long, long time. It's the equivalent of Norm Benning winning a truck race, or something.

I don't watch the truck series anymore, but I'll take that as a bad thing?

 

[GTFan24]

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I'm aware of the flukiness, I followed the GTP commentary of the race. (Wasn't aware of the crew chief not being aware of all the weather conditions, though.) My post was more like a jab at our favorite ex-GoDaddy girl for continued incompetence even on her fourth year of full-time competition, now even getting beaten to a first win by drivers who should regularly finish multiple laps down because of the equipment they're in.

To be fair, it is a pretty big thing because this might well be the worst car that has won a Cup race in a long, long time. It's the equivalent of Norm Benning winning a truck race, or something.

I'd say Regan Smith at Darlington back in 2011 may be the closest comparison I can make. Even then, Furniture Row had shown small flashes of what they are today. Before that, I'd say - not counting plate tracks - Ricky Craven at Martinsville and Johnny Benson at Rockingham but again, they weren't driving for bottom rung teams.

 

[Vert4848]

Could do without the red stripe in the middle of the hood. Other than that it looks pretty good.

Also, good win by Chris and his team. A win is a win, no matter how it was won.

 

[MustangRyan]

I'm aware of the flukiness, I followed the GTP commentary of the race. (Wasn't aware of the crew chief not being aware of all the weather conditions, though.) My post was more like a jab at our favorite ex-GoDaddy girl for continued incompetence even on her fourth year of full-time competition, now even getting beaten to a first win by drivers who should regularly finish multiple laps down because of the equipment they're in.

To be fair, it is a pretty big thing because this might well be the worst car that has won a Cup race in a long, long time. It's the equivalent of Norm Benning winning a truck race, or something.

Yes, the race was delayed for fog, which no one knew was coming, because it isn't visible on radar. The view chief even said it in an interview during the delay. Had anyone known this was coming several others would have stayed out, too. The fog showed up, wouldn't go away, and stayed long enough for the rain to roll in behind it.

 

[Jahgee]

 

[Blood Eagle]

Dale Jr is done.

 

[catamount39]

My tablet won't load the tweet what's it say?

 

[Jahgee]

My tablet won't load the tweet what's it say?

Gordon will be at the Glen and Bristol confirmed

 

[RACECAR]

Seriously, you have never heard anyone refer to Danica as princess sparkle pony?

@Carbonox is literally the only person I hear refer to her as that. No where else do I hear that.

She did drive a Ferrari in an ALMS race a few years ago.

Wait, this happened?

 

[Carbonox]

@Carbonox is literally the only person I hear refer to her as that. No where else do I hear that.

I swear it was used much more regularly a year or two ago, on this very forum. It seems I'm the only remaining relic from that era.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Dale Jr is done.

Yeah you can say that, the fact Bristol is now out of the question a track that he could have got the win at...

@Carbonox is literally the only person I hear refer to her as that. No where else do I hear that.

Reddit and this forum used it quite a bit when every other 10 minutes of a race was about her driving down in 31st position.

Wait, this happened?

 

[catamount39]

Gordon will be at the Glen and Bristol confirmed

Well that's interesting.

@Carbonox is literally the only person I hear refer to her as that. No where else do I hear that.



Wait, this happened?

Yeah, Petite Le Mans 2003 (again forget if that's the exact year, but I think it is) in a 550 GT1. They somehow finished actually.

 

[Blood Eagle]

Yeah you can say that, the fact Bristol is now out of the question a track that he could have got the win at...

I feel like Pocono was his best chance outside of a plate track. While I'm not really a Jr fan, this is a crappy situation. Dude is worth more than 300 million. It's time to hang it up.

 

[RACECAR]

I think it'd at this point be safer for Dale just to miss the rest of the season instead of keeping all on pens and needles on whether he'll come to a race this year or not. It'll give him far more time to recover AND he'll come back in much better shape. I would say retire but I get the feeling as much as he's relaxed over the years, he hasn't gotten THAT relaxed.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I feel like Pocono was his best chance outside of a plate track. While I'm not really a Jr fan, this is a crappy situation. Dude is worth more than 300 million. It's time to hang it up.

I disagree it's time to hang it up, he's got plenty of skill left in him and showed another potential good season like he has for the past few years. Just started to go down the drain midway and then this completed it. Him being worth such and such amount of money doesn't change that the guy is a racer, and he wants to try for a championship until it's no longer feasible.

 

[catamount39]

Wonder if Gordon will finish the year or not...

 

[Ganon83]

Don't think it has been mentioned in here yet but there's a GT academy guy driving for Harmon this week in the Xfinity race

 

[Anathema]

It's not a matter of whether Junior still has the skills to continue racing at such a high level - and he does - it's a matter of his health and safety. That is paramount to him above all else, otherwise he would have continued racing with the symptoms he's dealing with now.

What will determine if he retires is ultimately his consideration for his own health.

 

[RACECAR]

Don't think it has been mentioned in here yet but there's a GT academy guy driving for Harmon this week in the Xfinity race

...

And you haven't told @Jordan for what reason?

 

[Blood Eagle]

Dale's condition is no longer week to week. They are actually planning 2 weeks at a time. I don't see him coming back soon and even if he were cleared to race, is it even smart? I'm afraid things like contracts and sponsorship obligations will be the deciding factor. I would applaud Jr if he hung it up today. But if you think those stands are empty now, wait until Jr hangs it up. NASCAR needs Jr in that respect. If he does hang it up, NASCAR needs to keep him around as a high level employee and also an Ambassador of the Sport.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Dale's condition is no longer week to week. They are actually planning 2 weeks at a time. I don't see him coming back soon and even if he were cleared to race, is it even smart? I'm afraid things like contracts and sponsorship obligations will be the deciding factor. I would applaud Jr if he hung it up today. But if you think those stands are empty now, wait until Jr hangs it up. NASCAR needs Jr in that respect. If he does hang it up, NASCAR needs to keep him around as a high level employee and also an Ambassador of the Sport.

They planned two weeks to begin with, we knew he was going to miss Indy and Pocono the moment they said he'd be out, then they extended it to Glen, with chance of return at Bristol. They've been planning ahead for a while, I still don't see why he should hang it up from those asking.

It's not a matter of whether Junior still has the skills to continue racing at such a high level - and he does - it's a matter of his health and safety. That is paramount to him above all else, otherwise he would have continued racing with the symptoms he's dealing with now.

What will determine if he retires is ultimately his consideration for his own health.

He's not like that though, he's been a guy that makes sure if he's feeling out of tune, to rectify it, if it's health related he'll sit out. He's more willing to do that than perhaps other drivers. But to be honest, I've seen more drivers take the mandatory sit out time needed due to injury than I ever would of in the 90s and I think that's a good thing. It shouldn't be seen as something of "well how much longer can this person go" or anything else really.

He took a decent hit, at Michigan even though it didn't seem that way. This guy has been in plenty of high end wrecks that put him at risk, him taking precautions is due to being in incidents many drivers don't have over their career.

 

[Jahgee]

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I keep thinking back to Junior's crash at Fontana way back in 2002. My understanding is that he received a concussion there but no one knew until well after the fact. He struggled mightily from that point all through the summer.

Impossible to compare the severity of this concussion but it feels like Junior has little incentive to rush his return because he won't be 100%. He all but has to be to win. At this juncture, you only hope that it's not severe enough that doctors are going to start suggesting retirement.

 

[ukfan758]

I keep thinking back to Junior's crash at Fontana way back in 2002. My understanding is that he received a concussion there but no one knew until well after the fact. He struggled mightily from that point all through the summer.

Impossible to compare the severity of this concussion but it feels like Junior has little incentive to rush his return because he won't be 100%. He all but has to be to win. At this juncture, you only hope that it's not severe enough that doctors are going to start suggesting retirement.

For those who don't remember:

 

[catamount39]

For those who don't remember:

Holy **** that was a hard hit. Just solid concrete too.

 

[Ganon83]

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And you haven't told @Jordan for what reason?

It's a Harmon Dodge, that's why.

Name is Nick Hamman for what it's worth

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

Dale Jr is done.

As far as championships go, yes, and this coming from a Jr. fan. However, I hope this proves to be a boon for Alex Bowman or someone else HMS can call up on a whim

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

For those who don't remember:

Holy crack cocaine...that was a d!ck move by Harvick there...


EDIT: 🤬🤬🤬:censored:ing doublepost again...