2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[fortbo]

Its Audi's farewell race as well

Thanks for reminding me...🤬

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Awesome. WEC finale this weekend, F1 finale next weekend. Then the big off season uggghhhhhhhhhh

This time is bittersweet for motorsport fans. WEC and F1 finishing, SuperGT, ELMS and DTM finished amongst others for me. I usually start watching some older racing like 90s BTCC and Le Mans.

It's Audi's farewell race as well.

Yeah. It is a real pity for all at Audi Sport to have it's programme pulled so abruptly. I will certainly miss them.

 

[FutureF1]

Dunno if anyone caught this but Lotterer is in a Porsche next year...

http://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/lotterer-to-make-porsche-switch-for-2017-wec-season-850197/

 

[dingodile_r89]

Yeah, VAG letting him go to Toyota was highly doubtful anyway. Will the golden trio stay together, though? What's happening to Treluyer and Fassler?

 

[fortbo]

Yeah, VAG letting him go to Toyota was highly doubtful anyway. Will the golden trio stay together, though? What's happening to Treluyer and Fassler?

Optimally, they should go to Andre's team and have the rest of the Porsche drivers on that team go to Toyota's third car...

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Optimally, they should go to Andre's team and have the rest of the Porsche drivers on that team go to Toyota's third car...

Never! We have enough good drivers to field a competitive third car. It would be like sleeping with the enemy.

 

[IforceV8]

Rubens, Dallara P2, and holy yellow.

 

[catamount39]

Rubens, Dallara P2, and holy yellow.

#TeamBanana

 

[IforceV8]

#TeamBanana

#teamstealthmode might be a better name. DSC did it's P2 preview 2017 and this one slipped right thru unnoticed, which is hard to do since you could see that thing from 35,000 feet up on a cloudy day.

 

[TheCracker]

 

[RACECAR]

#teamstealthmode might be a better name. DSC did it's P2 preview 2017 and this one slipped right thru unnoticed, which is hard to do since you could see that thing from 35,000 feet up on a cloudy day.

But if you hide it behind the solar flare given off by the Sun Energy 1 paint scheme of certain cars, then it might as well be invisable.

 

[trustjab]

New Porsche looking good

 

[dingodile_r89]

New Porsche looking good

Wow.

 

[05XR8]

Rubens, Dallara P2, and holy yellow.

Name it "jumbo"yellow.

 

[GTFan24]

I seriously don't wanna cry

 

[fortbo]

I seriously don't wanna cry

 

[Northstar]

And suddenly ByKolles probably won't win the LMP1-P title after all.

SMP to step up to LMP1.

 

[trustjab]

And suddenly ByKolles probably won't win the LMP1-P title after all.

SMP to step up to LMP1.

That's for 2018, so the CLM has it's own class next year it seems.

 

[catamount39]

That's for 2018, so CLM has it's own class next year it seems.

The CLM is ByKolles though isn't it?

 

[trustjab]

Yeah, I should have said "the CLM".

 

[Scuderia Paul]

I might put money on byKolles winning the LMP1 Privateer title next year with 0pt.

It is great news to hear of BR Engineering entering LMP1 in 2018. Hopefully byKolles will still be there so we can have some competition.

This is a nice touch by Toyota.

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[catamount39]

I might put money on byKolles winning the LMP1 Privateer title next year with 0pt.

It is great news to hear of BR Engineering entering LMP1 in 2018. Hopefully byKolles will still be there so we can have some competition.

This is a nice touch by Toyota.

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A classy nod by Toyota. As much as we joke about the reliability, they (before Porsche, especially if you count 1999 and the dawn of Audi and the exit of Toyota then) were the first to step up and they've had some fun battles.

Goodbye Audi, hope you return to Le Mans some day. ;_;7

 

[dingodile_r89]

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Pure class. Brilliant.

 

[GTFan24]

Im seriously not ready to cry when one of the Audi's crosses the finish line this week

 

[IforceV8]

 

[fortbo]

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

PSA CEO and the director of Peugeot Sport have both confirmed that Peugeot won't return to Lemans / WEC until the costs will significantly be reduced. No agreement has been found as of yet with ACO and FIA. However, rumours were that Peugeot could provide an engine 1.6L Turbo for a Ligier in LMP3.

Their current focus is Dakar and the launch of the 308 Racing Cup in 2017. TCR upgrade is planned for 2018.

Surely they're kidding right? They'er wasting money in an event that doesn't even quantify to the use on average you get from WEC, and what is the 308 cup going to do but most likely be another manufacture cup that bases close to France. It's about as stupid as Volvo saying "we're done with V8s, and were going to focus on the STCC", what is the allure of this small series over a massive international one? I find it hard to see running your own series and spending the tons of money that goes into Dakar and hardly sees road production, less expensive than WEC.

 

[doblocruiser]

Surely they're kidding right? They'er wasting money in an event that doesn't even quantify to the use on average you get from WEC, and what is the 308 cup going to do but most likely be another manufacture cup that bases close to France. It's about as stupid as Volvo saying "we're done with V8s, and were going to focus on the STCC", what is the allure of this small series over a massive international one? I find it hard to see running your own series and spending the tons of money that goes into Dakar and hardly sees road production, less expensive than WEC.

The 308 Racing Cup replaces the excisting RCZ Cup. It is a pretty popular series and it has been running a couple of years as a supporting series for the GT Tour here in France. They have invested a lot in the 308 Racing Cup and even if this car is run in a national cup, their focus for this machine is the international and national touringcar scenes all over the world. A few tests have been run a the 308 was pretty competitive even with its 1.6 turbo engine. There is currently no 2.0 liter version but that will arrive in 2018 as a TCR upgrade kit. Peugeot is offering the cars for 75.000E without tax if I am not mistaken. Next to the 308, Peugeot still runs the 208 series (amateur level) and as well the Dakar to which factory support and money goes the most. I expect them however to be at Lemans before 2020.

The engine they want to provide for the LMP3 is based on the engine of the 308 Racing Cup but adjusted to run in LMP3. Thus far it has been a rumor and I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere so far.

 

[GTFan24]

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The 308 Racing Cup replaces the excisting RCZ Cup. It is a pretty popular series and it has been running a couple of years as a supporting series for the GT Tour here in France. They have invested a lot in the 308 Racing Cup and even if this car is run in a national cup, their focus for this machine is the international and national touringcar scenes all over the world. A few tests have been run a the 308 was pretty competitive even with its 1.6 turbo engine. There is currently no 2.0 liter version but that will arrive in 2018 as a TCR upgrade kit. Peugeot is offering the cars for 75.000E without tax if I am not mistaken. Next to the 308, Peugeot still runs the 208 series (amateur level) and as well the Dakar to which factory support and money goes the most. I expect them however to be at Lemans before 2020.

The engine they want to provide for the LMP3 is based on the engine of the 308 Racing Cup but adjusted to run in LMP3. Thus far it has been a rumor and I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere so far.

My point is that both are simply luxury series to promote the brand, not a series or event that would actually push the bounds of engineering and cause them to develop for future road going machines. Perhaps that along with cost is why they don't see any need to return to sport car endurance racing. I just don't see a reason for production series, unless they actually lead into international stuff, but even then it's a spec series with just different shaped cars. Dakar is the only real test to me and that isn't saying much when compared to WEC or F1