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Eva
Tobacco advertising is prohibited anyways, so we won't be seeing tobacco sponsors on anything for the foreseeable future. Just throwing that out there.
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Yep.

Which is also why whenever you purchase a 1:43 car with cigarette sponsorship, it either doesn't have it at all, or the decals for it come separate in a little baggie.
 
Eva
Tobacco advertising is prohibited anyways, so we won't be seeing tobacco sponsors on anything for the foreseeable future. Just throwing that out there.
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Oh yeah I'm well aware of that. Point was I just find the regulations seemingly overreactive.
 
Just got this alert from the official NASCAR app...
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Dolph Drago
NASCAR: "We want everyone racing their hardest every week. *big one at Talladega happens in the Chase* Oh, your damage is going to take 6 minutes to repair? Nevermind, just give up. Lol."
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If you can't fix sheet metal in 5 minutes and have real actual damage that requires the car to go to the garage, you are out. 5 minutes is a long time dude. No more coming out 30-40 laps down to be a non-contender only to advance your position when other cars wreck out. Good for NASCAR.
 
Blood Eagle
If you can't fix sheet metal in 5 minutes and have real actual damage that requires the car to go to the garage, you are out. 5 minutes is a long time dude. No more coming out 30-40 laps down to be a non-contender only to advance your position when other cars wreck out. Good for NASCAR.
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I don't know. I feel like there's a big difference between taking 30 minutes to repair a car and being 30 laps down and taking just over 5 minutes and being only 1 or 2 laps down. If the 2 lap down car becomes a hazard (can't maintain minimum speed or is dropping debris left and right), then yes send them to the garage for the day.

I don't know exactly how quickly they can fix some of the damage that would be rather minor. Beating out the fenders and adjusting the toe back into place is going to take a few minutes, but it's hardly heavy damage.

And I may have missed it, but are the cars allowed to pit, repair some damage, get back onto the track ahead of the pace car, come back in and continue repairing the damage?
 
If they can fix it in 5 minutes and maintain race speed, they get another 5 minutes to rectify the problem. If not, the car is not in race condition and requires garage service and out of the race. Rightfully so.
 
I like the damage change. Sure it's kinda, well, I guess the word is "unfair?" But I'd rather not see a car try to get back to the field way off the pace and many laps down, especially after what happened with Logano and Kenseth. I will say it's kinda ironic seeing as how a Premium car (or similar) is also way off the pace and not exactly competitive, but hell getting to the finish is an achievement of its own for a team like them. A JGR/SHR car for example crashing out, I feel, should be game over because, "that's racing" (although, yeah, ironically endurance won't be that big a factor anymore but still, no more paybacks please because, while drama is cool, not when it happens to a driver who could win four in a row being taken out by someone who had no business on the race track anymore).

Segments, I'll have to see how that plays out but I will disagree with it being for Daytona. I think that should stay the classic 500-mile race to the finish because the Daytona 500 is entertaining enough it really doesn't need segments.
 
AMPMROCKETFANN
To be honest, I was hoping they would leave the 500 alone so the constant Fox ads would be less annoying, and so I and many other people could give NASCAR a proper sendoff before it fades away into the void
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As much as I wanted to hope they wouldn't, something told me not to count on it. I'm not even sure the Road Courses will be decent enough to actually be watchable.
 
Traveling Medical Team: Great news and it's about time! I haven't really heard any complaints with the current/past setup but there is always room for improvement in the response category and this seems to be a popular thing in other series' that utilize traveling medics.

Car repair limits: I think the garage part is great as there have been far too many cautions over the years caused by some car losing something when they shouldn't even be on track. I'm not in favor of the pit road time limit though, I would have much rather just seen a list of approved repairs that can be done on pit road.
 
You know how to fix the car repair limits without an arbitrary rule? Change the points. No points for last 10 cars and you must complete 90% of the race to score points. If you have to complete 450/500 laps at Bristol or 180/200 laps at Daytona, the 5 minute rule kind of takes care of itself.
 
Jubby
You know how to fix the car repair limits without an arbitrary rule? Change the points. No points for last 10 cars and you must complete 90% of the race to score points. If you have to complete 450/500 laps at Bristol or 180/200 laps at Daytona, the 5 minute rule kind of takes care of itself.
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You would still have an issue though as teams have a tendency to go back out and use the rest of the race as an impromptu test session.
 
Northstar
You would still have an issue though as teams have a tendency to go back out and use the rest of the race as an impromptu test session.
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Possibly, but most look for that 1 point. With the new Chase process, I've noticed those locked in won't even bother. If points aren't available, why test a wrecked car? I can't imagine learning that much.
 
I like the damage rule especially considering that all cars 36 or worse score the same amount of points anyways so there will be less ratty cars out there trying to go from 39th-38th etc for that one extra point
 
Jubby
If points aren't available, why test a wrecked car? I can't imagine learning that much.
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Me either but that doesn't stop teams from going back out anyways like they currently do.

I'm a fan of this as it will reduce the number of slower cars from getting in the way of those who still have a chance in the race. Plus it may lower the number of cautions which is a plus.
 
One thing I do have to ask is what about the cars that have a issue that's internal like battery and they come out still fast and undamaged but laps down?
 
RACECAR
One thing I do have to ask is what about the cars that have a issue that's internal like battery and they come out still fast and undamaged but laps down?
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The 5 minute fix on pit road does not apply to those types of situations. They can take the car to the garage and fix electrical & mechanical type issues. This rule affects cars that are damaged significantly enough to require intervention in the garage. Not mechanical issues.

"Teams will be allowed to correct mechanical or electrical failures that aren't the result of an accident or contact without penalty. Such repairs may be done on pit road or in the garage area, and the five-minute clock will not be in play in those instances. "We're not going to tell a guy who breaks his transmission at Watkins Glen or Pocono, for instance, and coasts into the garage area that he's out," Miller said. "Because that doesn't create an unsafe situation; that is a mechanical failure. It's more about crashed vehicles and all that is involved with that, from the crew guys to the drivers to dropping more debris on the track, which always happens. ... So there are exceptions for mechanical failures, those things can be rectified in the garage. That's going to be up to the series director's discretion to make those calls, but it's not going to be that difficult."
 
With the way some have been talking online you'd think every NASCAR race had half the field with severe damage
 

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