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[Spacegoat]

That's James Golding all but confirmed to take Jacobson's seat then.



Also, the Anderson Motorsport Bathurst wildcard has taken a hit after Michael Anderson was denied a Superlicence dispensation to race.

Bathurst 1000 wildcard hopeful denied Superlicence - Speedcafe

Bathurst builder Michael Anderson had announced a Great Race tilt aboard a Dick Johnson Racing-built Mustang

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[Twisteddrift]

Golding lands seven-round PremiAir Racing deal

James Golding PremiAir Racing has sealed the deal to bring James Golding back to the Repco Supercars Championship in a

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Confirmed. He's certainly deserving of being back on the grid. I'll be interested to see how he goes for the rest of the year.

 

[05XR8]

If ever a racer deserved a seat.

 

[Twisteddrift]

Supercars drivers braced for Townsville tyre ‘lottery’ - Speedcafe

The tyre allocation for this weekend’s NTI Townsville 500 represents something of a 'lottery', according to leading Supercars drivers

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Darwin didn't have any major tyre dramas. But this is different of course being obviously a hybrid street circuit, and the fact that it's 250km races. I don't think you'll see what saw at Phillip Island 2017, but I wouldn't be surprised if the teams have to alter strategy and adjust setup like what we saw at Albert Park in April.

 

[FPV MIC]

I'm really not a fan of these tyre rules and the way it basically can split the field into to separate races, one for the genuine championship contenders who have to play it safe(ish), and one for the people who have nothing to lose and can gamble on a late safety car.

Having different winners is great, but using the rules to try and create different results isn't proper motorsport in my eyes. One step difference in tyres would/should have been enough.

I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to motorsport and I've seen my fair share of different chook lotto systems to create results, but I'll never count a winner of one of those types of races as a real winner (the Percat/Dumbrell ''win'' in Adelaide comes to mind... and all those stupid pandemic races where the top guys where hamstrung for a minimum of one race because of lack of tyres). Perhaps it's because I'm not a gambler ¯\(ツ)/¯


Edit: Interesting, seems most are going to run the Super Softs at the end. Well there goes my theory

Tyre compounds to dictate Townsville race tempo

The super soft (blue) and hard (yellow) compound tyres. Picture: Ross Gibb Drivers expect the tempo of the NTI Townsville

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But I still think having only one step difference in tyre compounds would be better.

 

[Twisteddrift]

I'm really not a fan of these tyre rules and the way it basically can split the field into to separate races, one for the genuine championship contenders who have to play it safe(ish), and one for the people who have nothing to lose and can gamble on a late safety car.

Having different winners is great, but using the rules to try and create different results isn't proper motorsport in my eyes. One step difference in tyres would/should have been enough.

I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to motorsport and I've seen my fair share of different chook lotto systems to create results, but I'll never count a winner of one of those types of races as a real winner (the Percat/Dumbrell ''win'' in Adelaide comes to mind... and all those stupid pandemic races where the top guys where hamstrung for a minimum of one race because of lack of tyres). Perhaps it's because I'm not a gambler ¯\(ツ)/¯


Edit: Interesting, seems most are going to run the Super Softs at the end. Well there goes my theory

Tyre compounds to dictate Townsville race tempo

The super soft (blue) and hard (yellow) compound tyres. Picture: Ross Gibb Drivers expect the tempo of the NTI Townsville

www.speedcafe.com

But I still think having only one step difference in tyre compounds would be better.

Yeah it'll be similar to what we saw in the completed race at SMP where the SS tyre was introduced and it was probably the best race we saw out of those four weeks. And since basically everyone will be using the SS at the end of the race, fuel strategy will be key for this weekend.

 

[LumpiestFish]

Really awful hit for Tony Quinn in the Porsches, went in so hard. No news yet

 

[Twisteddrift]

Really awful hit for Tony Quinn in the Porsches, went in so hard. No news yet

They said he got out and is getting checked. It was a bad angle to hit the wall hopefully he's not seriously hurt.

UPDATE: Tony Quinn suffered a broken leg and a punctured lung. Wishing all the best with his recovery.

 

[Spacegoat]

I'm really not a fan of these tyre rules and the way it basically can split the field into to separate races, one for the genuine championship contenders who have to play it safe(ish), and one for the people who have nothing to lose and can gamble on a late safety car.

It was disappointing that the shootout was effectively ruined by the majority of drivers having to run on used tyres. Waters did a hell of a job though.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hoping this race isn't just SVG running away with it.

Edit: Didn't run away with it but the result was the same. Turned it off. Meh.

 

[Spacegoat]

Yeah, it feels like DJR shot themselves in the foot by pitting Davison when they did to cover Mostert. He was never going to be a threat pitting that early.

 

[FPV MIC]

Yeah, it feels like DJR shot themselves in the foot by pitting Davison when they did to cover Mostert. He was never going to be a threat pitting that early.

I can't understand why DJR keep falling for this . It's like they've given up on the championship and are just going for race wins... which is still odd because SVG is cleaning up in that department as well.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Not taking that position back so that it forces a penalty is a dick move. SVG at his finest. Boring race weekend.

Kudos to Davison for clawing back after the first lap incident.

 

[Spacegoat]

Anton clearly heard the criticism of him not being aggressive enough in Darwin.

And heck of a drive from Davison. Thought for sure he'd be a DNF after that incident.

 

[FPV MIC]

Once again Scotty Pye's spacial awareness was questionable, and I think it robbed everyone of seeing what the faster of the two DJR cars could do, that's if it wasn't as bent as it ended up being. Helluva job by Davo to finish where he did with the cards he was dealt.

SVG acting as SVG always does doesn't do himself any favours with the fans... and no commentators, his great racing brain wasn't the reason he didn't let ADP redress.

Van Gisbergen was initially coy when queried about why he did not take the redress, simply responding “Dunno”.

I do, because you're a dick SVG!

Then asked specifically if he hoped for a bigger penalty, he replied, “Yeah, I probably thought that at the time.”

Yeah, good cover up... not.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Not taking that position back so that it forces a penalty is a dick move. SVG at his finest. Boring race weekend.

SVG acting as SVG always does doesn't do himself any favours with the fans... and no commentators, his great racing brain wasn't the reason he didn't let ADP redress.

Van Gisbergen was initially coy when queried about why he did not take the redress, simply responding “Dunno”.

I do, because you're a dick SVG!

Then asked specifically if he hoped for a bigger penalty, he replied, “Yeah, I probably thought that at the time.”

Yeah, good cover up... not.

Thank you thank you thank you, these were my thoughts too. Supercars should've said "Nah sorry mate, Anton tried to redress the spot and you didn't go by, so you don't get the win" but oh no, they have to side with the Red Bull guy. I don't want to see this stupid gamesmanship to force a penalty because it's an ugly look. Apart from that the round was a snoozefest as it always is at Townsville. No wonder why I keep forgetting about it.

Once again Scotty Pye's spacial awareness was questionable

This is a problem that is starting to frustrate me. What did he think was going to happen? Its the first lap of the race, you can't be squeezing people into the wall and cutting their nose off like that. He had a golden opportunity to put some more points on the board and he blew it. What a shame after such a strong result on Saturday.

 

[ColinNZ]

Anton should have been penalised regardless of redressing the position. The move was not on.

 

[Ozzoky]

Anton should have been penalised regardless of redressing the position. The move was not on.

Forget any rational opinion in here... this is the unofficial SVG hatters club!
Some in here believe he is the antichrist.

 

[FPV MIC]

Forget any rational opinion in here... this is the unofficial SVG hatters club!
Some in here believe he is the antichrist.

SVG is SVG's worst enemy, not us


Edit: You may also be surprised at the amount of times we've stuck up for him in racing incidents he's been involved in . This one in particular was not a good look for him though and rather unprofessional.

 

[ColinNZ]

SVG is SVG's worst enemy, not us


Edit: You may also be surprised at the amount of times we've stuck up for him in racing incidents he's been involved in . This one in particular was not a good look for him though and rather unprofessional.

What happened was 100% Anton's fault. All SVG did was win a race via pace and strategy. I'm not sure what's unprofessional about that.

See Chaz at Melbourne for unprofessional reactions to incidents on the last lap.

 

[CodeRedR51]

What happened was 100% Anton's fault. All SVG did was win a race via pace and strategy. I'm not sure what's unprofessional about that.

See Chaz at Melbourne for unprofessional reactions to incidents on the last lap.

Anton tried to redress and SVG was a dick about it. Thats what was unprofessional.

 

[FPV MIC]

What happened was 100% Anton's fault. All SVG did was win a race via pace and strategy. I'm not sure what's unprofessional about that.

See Chaz at Melbourne for unprofessional reactions to incidents on the last lap.

Did you not see what he did at the end of the race? Yes it was 100% ADP's fault and no one is denying that, and SVG 100% deserved the win but what was unprofessional was his behaviour coming to the chequered flag.

A more professional way to deal with what happened would be to accept the redress and cross the finish line in first place putting the win beyond any doubt.

There were too many 'what if's' that could have bit SVG in the arse with the way he conducted himself and as no penalty had yet been issued to ADP he was just presuming there was going to be one. It's not like the stewards haven't turned what to most people would seem as a fairly straight forward incident into a complete circus before.

Just as another example of a 'what if' that was a possibility because let's face it, SVG didn't even know if ADP's car was still running at that point, let's say ADP jams on the brakes or stops and SVG rear ends him, then what? Cam Waters wins the race and SVG has egg on his face, that's what!

He didn't even say that he did on purpose to get ADP a bigger penalty, that was words put into his mouth by the commentators trying to make him look less of a dick and smarter than he actual was. I doubt he'll ever do it again and I'd wager that he'll be getting a call from RD telling him to lift his game.

"Then asked specifically if he hoped for a bigger penalty, he replied, “Yeah, I probably thought that at the time.”

Not very convincing if you ask me.


Edited for a TLDR: Because deliberately coming second in a race you're paid to win is unprofessional.

 

[ColinNZ]

Did you not see what he did at the end of the race? Yes it was 100% ADP's fault and no one is denying that, and SVG 100% deserved the win but what was unprofessional was his behaviour coming to the chequered flag.

A more professional way to deal with what happened would be to accept the redress and cross the finish line in first place putting the win beyond any doubt.

There were too many 'what if's' that could have bit SVG in the arse with the way he conducted himself and as no penalty had yet been issued to ADP he was just presuming there was going to be one. It's not like the stewards haven't turned what to most people would seem as a fairly straight forward incident into a complete circus before.

Just as another example of a 'what if' that was a possibility because let's face it, SVG didn't even know if ADP's car was still running at that point, let's say ADP jams on the brakes or stops and SVG rear ends him, then what? Cam Waters wins the race and SVG has egg on his face, that's what!

He didn't even say that he did on purpose to get ADP a bigger penalty, that was words put into his mouth by the commentators trying to make him look less of a dick and smarter than he actual was. I doubt he'll ever do it again and I'd wager that he'll be getting a call from RD telling him to lift his game.

"Then asked specifically if he hoped for a bigger penalty, he replied, “Yeah, I probably thought that at the time.”

Not very convincing if you ask me.


Edited for a TLDR: Because deliberately coming second in a race you're paid to win is unprofessional.

I saw what happened at the end of the race. Anton did a great job of closing the gap down in those final laps, almost getting within range. But he just wasn't close enough to even attempt that move. He was getting a penalty regardless of any redress.

There is no rule that says you have to accept a redress.

 

[FPV MIC]

I saw what happened at the end of the race. Anton did a great job of closing the gap down in those final laps, almost getting within range. But he just wasn't close enough to even attempt that move. He was getting a penalty regardless of any redress.

There is no rule that says you have to accept a redress.

I know it isn't a rule, it's a recommendation, and it's never a certainty that someone's getting a penalty until they're issued a penalty. You no what assuming does, right?

“It’s in our Code of Driving Conduct; it’s not a rule, it’s a recommendation,” Baird told Supercars.com.

But that still doesn't change the fact that SVG had no control over the actions of either ADP (or his car for that matter) or Craig Baird. The professional thing to do was quite obvious... cross the finish line first and put the race win beyond doubt. It's really that simple and anything less than that would draw criticism no matter who it was.

Baird also said...
“Shane didn’t take the redress offered on a platter, so I redressed it.

“It’s not up to Shane to dictate what penalty Anton receives.”

It's also not up to SVG if ADP received a penalty at all, so why gamble?

He also said...
“It was a redress that was offered up by Anton, and realistically, should have been taken.

“Shane has given a redress before, and people have taken it.

Everyone bar a few diehard SVG supporters know that what SVG did wasn't sporting and wasn't the professional thing to do.


Source:

SVG-De Pasquale Townsville run-in explained | Supercars

DSA Craig Baird explains absorbing Race 20 climax

www.supercars.com

 

[ColinNZ]

I know it isn't a rule, it's a recommendation, and it's never a certainty that someone's getting a penalty until they're issued a penalty. You no what assuming does, right?

“It’s in our Code of Driving Conduct; it’s not a rule, it’s a recommendation,” Baird told Supercars.com.

But that still doesn't change the fact that SVG had no control over the actions of either ADP (or his car for that matter) or Craig Baird. The professional thing to do was quite obvious... cross the finish line first and put the race win beyond doubt. It's really that simple and anything less than that would draw criticism no matter who it was.

Baird also said...
“Shane didn’t take the redress offered on a platter, so I redressed it.

“It’s not up to Shane to dictate what penalty Anton receives.”

It's also not up to SVG if ADP received a penalty at all, so why gamble?

He also said...
“It was a redress that was offered up by Anton, and realistically, should have been taken.

“Shane has given a redress before, and people have taken it.

Everyone bar a few diehard SVG supporters know that what SVG did wasn't sporting and wasn't the professional thing to do.


Source:

SVG-De Pasquale Townsville run-in explained | Supercars

DSA Craig Baird explains absorbing Race 20 climax

www.supercars.com

I read that before my previous post, which is why I mentioned that there is no redress rule. In the end, the stewards saw the incident at hand and gave out the appropriate penalty.

I'm not a diehard SVG fan, by the way. He's biffed people out of the way and been penalised for it too. What gets me, is that he was taken out at the final corner and it is somehow his driving standards being questioned.

Still, it was a great race up until that point.

 

[FPV MIC]

I read that before my previous post, which is why I mentioned that there is no redress rule. In the end, the stewards saw the incident at hand and gave out the appropriate penalty.

I'm not a diehard SVG fan, by the way. He's biffed people out of the way and been penalised for it too. What gets me, is that he was taken out at the final corner and it is somehow his driving standards being questioned.

Still, it was a great race up until that point.

It's not his driving standards that are being called into question, it's his lack of sportsmanship (by failing to take the redress) and the unprofessional manner in which he conducted himself (failing to make sure he put the race beyond doubt by crossing the finishing line first).

 

[Ozzoky]

SVG is SVG's worst enemy, not us


Edit: You may also be surprised at the amount of times we've stuck up for him in racing incidents he's been involved in . This one in particular was not a good look for him though and rather unprofessional.

I agree that he is his worst enemy but probably not in the same way as you… it’s more like he is the best or most competent race driver in the championship. In a certain way it is his championship to lose…

I’m not sure when you have stuck up for him. From what I can see this is a pretty biased forum when it comes to SVG… maybe you’re talking about incidents before 2013…

I wouldn’t call it unprofessional… maybe cheeky. Yes, he has his occasional mistake (and he should have just take the redress on Sunday) but for the level of risk and aggression he puts in his driving I would say that he is fair to his opponents and his execution is excellent. That’s what makes him stand out from the pack… as an example, I can’t see another driver do what he did in Sandown in 2021.

 

[FPV MIC]

I agree that he is his worst enemy but probably not in the same way as you… it’s more like he is the best or most competent race driver in the championship. In a certain way it is his championship to lose…

I’m not sure when you have stuck up for him. From what I can see this is a pretty biased forum when it comes to SVG… maybe you’re talking about incidents before 2013…

I wouldn’t call it unprofessional… maybe cheeky. Yes, he has his occasional mistake (and he should have just take the redress on Sunday) but for the level of risk and aggression he puts in his driving I would say that he is fair to his opponents and his execution is excellent. That’s what makes him stand out from the pack… as an example, I can’t see another driver do what he did in Sandown in 2021.

He's definitely a rare talent that's for sure (but Scott McLaughlan was better ) and the last time I personally stuck up for him that I can remember off hand was for the incident at turn one of the 2021 Darwin round when he went up the inside of ADP and then chaos broke out (In the spoiler below, and still Scotty Pye's fault for my money).

The move (edited to clarify: to finish second in behind ADP), IMHO, on Sunday was straight from the disgruntled video gamers playbook and not something that's becoming of a professional race driver (for the reasons I've mentioned in previous posts) and I certainly wouldn't call it cheeky, stupid or unprofessional fits better with me (again, for the reasons I've previously posted). Remember, he wasn't the one that said he did it to give ADP a bigger penalty, those words came straight from the commentators and were fed to him on a platter as an excuse. His reason was... ''Dunno''.

Again IMHO, I think he did what he did for no other reason than he was angry, and to make sure ADP knew he was. I seriously thought he was going to drill the back of ADP's car on purpose at first... just like disgruntled video gamers do.

Spoiler: This incident.

Edit: Honestly, I think a course of anger management would serve SVG well.

 

[05XR8]

Supercars announces tentative date for 2023 season-opener - Speedcafe

Supercars set for talks with government on Newcastle 500 contract renewal

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I'm there.

 

[ScottPuss20]

He's definitely a rare talent that's for sure (but Scott McLaughlin was better ) and the last time I personally stuck up for him that I can remember off hand was for the incident at turn one of the 2021 Darwin round when he went up the inside of ADP and then chaos broke out (In the spoiler below, and still Scotty Pye's fault for my money).

Spoiler: This incident.

I originally blamed Shane for this because he checked up Anton which caused Pye to run into the back of him. However after seeing the footage again, it's obvious that Pye stuck his nose into a closing gap. He sees Van Gisbergen going down the inside of Anton so tries to follow, but when he realises that there isn't enough room he mounts the ripple strip and makes contact with Anton. The gap was barely big enough to start with so I don't even know why he bothered.