It's perfectly normal to have these discussions and opinions specially with the stewards and race direction's decisions and specifically when they are not consistent. But this is hard to avoid because it's a competition... you are not going to please everyone with your decisions. Sometimes the decisions are more favorable to some teams and sometimes they are more favorable to other teams... in the end hopefully it evens out.
But it doesn't. New ways to interpret rules have even been invented overnight to accommodate T8 (the wheel has to do one full rotation pit stop incident springs to mind. Even when many others had been penalized for just a slight movement when selecting 1st gear, T8 got away with theirs rotating a bees dick off a full rotation and the rule was changed after the fact
). This does not happen for any other team! A dodgy call now and then is expected but rewriting the rule book is not okay.
Again, why was the incident at Tassie between SVG and Waters not even looked into? That's not okay! If they aren't sure it has to be sent to the stewards... but it wasn't. Skaife saying it's okay and that it's a skill doesn't make it okay, and it certainly wasn't legal. This happens far too often in regards to T8.
I said this looks like the unofficial SVG haters club because you have people turning off their TVs as soon as he starts his trademark recoveries (they don't even wait for him to get to 1st place
), people cheering when he has a mechanical issue, trying to blame him for every issue, accusing other drivers of not fighting as hard with him, calling races snooze fests when he is recovering 18 secs and overtaking 5 or 6 cars to take the win... or my favorite one: when the thread was silent and somebody said that either people are playing GT7 or T8(SVG) had another win.
But when other drivers start from the front row and run away with the victory it's mostly "great job" and "good to see"... not a snooze fest.
The same happens in every form of motorsport when one person dominates, Formula 1 when Hamilton was dominating for example, but that doesn't make it bias or some form of haters club.
I was exaggerating to make a point.
No, you were just exaggerating. No point was made with your apples to oranges comparison.
But let me ask you why you are not speculating on why Waters did that?
Was it because he wanted to cause damage (a flat tire maybe) to SVG's car to get the win? Or because he was just angry to lose 1st position on the last lap from a guy that started 17th and had a broken collar bone? And what if he caused damage to SVG's car and that would cost him the race? And does he need an anger management course for that? Or for Tasmania? Or for all the incidents with Mostert?
I'm just applying your criteria (and some more) to make a point...
Did Waters say he was angry? And he clearly lifted when he realized he turned in to soon, and as there was nothing in the rule book about it there was nothing to discuss. The rest of your paragraph is just pure bollocks and as such no point is being made.
Yes SVG has the most aggressive (but fair) driving style in Supercars and that's what's making most of the races interesting along with different strategies also.
I don't mind his aggressive driving style either. I just wish there was the same level of aggression given back to him... and no that's not bias or hate, it's hoping for more exiting racing.
I can't agree with you on the anger part. You are basically saying he is out of control but he consistently proves you wrong on racing weekends (with the occasional odd mistake because of the risks he takes).
But he said he was angry though
and has demonstrated anger going way back in his career.
And that's a huge stretch to say I'm basically saying he's out of control. He just needs to learn a bit of self control and tone it down a bit. He doesn't lose his temper all the time and I never said he does, but it really should've been dealt with by now. I don't know what it's like where you live but anger management, sports phycologists and courses to help with the tv side of things are used regularly by all types of sports people here... SVG could do with a bit of all three.
Edit: I think you may be reading more into this than there is. I would still only rate SVG on the low end of the help needed scale though, Nick Kyrgios is an example of an extreme case at the top end and makes SVG look like a boy scout.
I'll use Whincup as another example here. While his driving record surpasses Craig Lowndes and Peter Brock's he will never have the same hero status that they have. Why? Because he's not as personable and very deadpan in comparison to the other two. SVG is in the same mould but he also dummy spits (a mild form of anger) when things don't go his way. Whincup more than likely would've accepted the redress
and accepted ADP's apology, while SVG did neither. It's a classic case of SVG being SVG's worst enemy.
To conclude: SVG should have accepted the redress. The rest is just speculation and assumptions.
Yes he should've accepted the redress, it would've been the smart and professional thing to do... as I've said all along. And yes, the rest, apart from him being angry because he did say he was angry (
this is not an assumption), is all speculation, as I've also alluded to the whole time... and that includes SVG trying to give ADP a bigger penalty. Remember SVG never actually came out and said that's why he did it, he only said it was probably what he was thinking
after being prompted about Skaife's speculation and assumption that that's why he did it.
This is why I've said all along that he should've crossed the line first to put the win out of question (
this is not an assumption). SVG didn't even know that ADP was having a lunge because he admitted he didn't check his mirrors (
this is not an assumption), and he himself bombs it in from that far back on a regular basis (
this is not an assumption). Most drivers would've expected a bomb from SVG if the positions were reversed and opened the steering up a bit when they saw him coming because they seemingly mirror drive... unlike SVG. And this is why people say that drivers let SVG through to easily.
Again, as I've said, he wasn't to know ADP was even going to get a penalty at that time, he just
assumed that (or are assumptions okay when SVG makes them?), and that's unprofessional.
) and the last time I personally stuck up for him that I can remember off hand was for the incident at turn one of the 2021 Darwin round when he went up the inside of ADP and then chaos broke out (In the spoiler below, and still Scotty Pye's fault for my money).
, and I'm still not seeing the biased part, I just call a spade a spade so to speak.
), and it's served me well for the rest of my life outside of sports.
). 
