2024 Formula 1 Drivers threadFormula 1

[PorscheFan91]

Already forgot how George binned it in Spa, without any pressure behind the safety car in Imola and at least collided with Bottas? Also he was three years in the Williams. His outing in the Merc at Bahrain was nice but also on a track with 4 corners. He also didn't have any notable teammate. Also he didn't had a regulation change in this 3 years. Still with this logic Mick should still have 1.5 seasons to prove himself. He binned the Haas yes but just look at the Leclerc and Sainz binning the Ferrari multiple times this year.

Indeed. Also, Russell didn't have a teammate at Williams who really challenged him. I think Mick is being given more of a hard time than other rookie drivers. If Haas thought he'd be going to AM though I can see them trying to court Danny Ric if he wants to stay in F1. I can't see many drivers chomping at the bit to go to Haas though and K Mag would be a good shout for Alpine. I think Mick is probably pretty safe and a worse case scenario for him would be Williams I think.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

$21 million McLaren seat was offered to multiple drivers including Oscar Piastri at same time - The SportsRush

IndyCar sensation Pat O'Ward revealed that Zak Brown offered the McLaren seat to multiple young drivers including Oscar Piastri.

thesportsrush.com

 

[toastet]

O'Ward still missing the needed points for a superlicense to be able to compete in F1 in 2023. After last weekends drop from 5th to 7th in the championship with 3 races remaining and now 37 points behind P4 even more uncertain he will achieve the needed 4th place in the years end standings of Indycar. Not sure why he is talking about a F1 contract when not finishing his homework beeing eligable to even drive in F1. Will be even more challenging for 2024 when he's not finishing 4th this year since that would mean he needs to achieve P3 in Indycar 2023.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Mick Schumacher has apparently started following Laurent Rossi on Instagram. Surprise Alpine move?

 

[Liquid]

That would certainly be a surprise.

 

[Blitz24]

Well, here's one who will NOT be driving for McLaren next year.

 

[Jezza819]

Well, here's one who will NOT be driving for McLaren next year.

So are they going to swap out Australians?

 

[Fezzik]

McLaren confirmed that they did discuss the Indy route with Danny but he wants to try and stay in F1

 

[IcySlivers]

McLaren confirmed that they did discuss the Indy route with Danny but he wants to try and stay in F1

Ya just watched the interview via F1s channel, he said he doesn’t have interest in any other racing category and might even just take a year off if no seat is available

 

[EngieDiesel]

Ya just watched the interview via F1s channel, he said he doesn’t have interest in any other racing category and might even just take a year off if no seat is available

If nothing else, I imagine he'd have no problem getting on as a reserve/test driver for a team if all else fails. That'd at least keep him in the loop and provide simulator or seat time in some capacity, and probably give him slightly higher priority if a seat does open up later. Sitting idle for a year and not even driving in some other series may as well just be considered retirement these days.

 

[Veinz]

His F1 career is finished if he takes a year off imo. I hope he takes whatever he can get.

 

[toastet]

He will end like Hülkenberg who never made it back despite have good results as jumper. There is a difference between taking a year off by yourself because nobody wants you or beeing contracted to a team which can't provide you with a seat like Ocon or Giovinazzi in the past.

 

[Famine]

Belgian Grand Prix: Lando Norris feels no sympathy for McLaren team-mate Daniel Ricciardo

Lando Norris says he feels no sympathy for team-mate Daniel Ricciardo following the Australian's split with McLaren.

www.bbc.co.uk

Second time I've seen this story during the Norris/Ricciardo era, and it's mental.

Reporter asks Norris if he feels sorry for his team-mate. Norris quite rightfully bats away the patronising question by saying it's not his job to feel sorry for any other driver. Article headline is "Norris feels no sympathy for Ricciardo".

What's even the goal with these?

 

[toastet]

Belgian Grand Prix: Lando Norris feels no sympathy for McLaren team-mate Daniel Ricciardo

Lando Norris says he feels no sympathy for team-mate Daniel Ricciardo following the Australian's split with McLaren.

www.bbc.co.uk

Second time I've seen this story during the Norris/Ricciardo era, and it's mental.

Reporter asks Norris if he feels sorry for his team-mate. Norris quite rightfully bats away the patronising question by saying it's not his job to feel sorry for any other driver. Article headline is "Norris feels no sympathy for Ricciardo".

What's even the goal with these?

Norris admits he has 'no sympathy' for Ricciardo

Lando Norris hates to say it, but the McLaren driver admits he has no sympathy for outgoing teammate Daniel Ricciardo.

f1i.com

 

[NLxAROSA]

What's even the goal with these?

The same as always:

 

[Famine]

Norris admits he has 'no sympathy' for Ricciardo

Lando Norris hates to say it, but the McLaren driver admits he has no sympathy for outgoing teammate Daniel Ricciardo.

f1i.com

That's the same one again.

This is the previous one:

No sympathy for Ricciardo's struggles, Norris claims | RacingNews365

Despite outqualifying his young British teammate, Ricciardo has been open and frank about his race struggles since moving to McLaren. Norris isn't feeling too bad for his new rival, however.

racingnews365.com

 

[Samus]

Still, surely all Alpine want out of it at this point is compensation $.

 

[NICKname]

Still, surely all Alpine want out of it at this point is compensation $.

They don't seem opposed to Piastri actually driving for them, and Piastri has been quiet lately. When Button was in a similar situation with BAR and Williams he was forced to drive for BAR and it all turned out fine. I think Alpine's main problem is that their only real options now are Ricciardo and Schumacher, they'll probably do anything they can to either get a (potentially) better driver or to at least get compensated for having to sign one of them.

There's also the problem of Alpine having paid for Piastri's junior seats and track days. They want compensation for that too, but they'll definitely never get a penny for that. Not just because that's not how that works legally, but also because Alpine has without a doubt the single worst academy and signing with them has probably been counterproductive to Piastri's career.

 

[Veinz]

Paywall but reliable source

Alpine eyes Gasly as Marko lines-up Herta for AlphaTauri F1 role

www.autosport.com

 

[toastet]

Herta won't have a superlicense in 2023 due to missing license points and (at the moment with P10 in the championship) would need to win the Indycar title in 2023 to get enough points for the license in 2024.

 

[Veinz]

Herta won't have a superlicense in 2023 due to missing license points and (at the moment with P10 in the championship) would need to win the Indycar title in 2023 to get enough points for the license in 2024.

Zak Brown seems to disagree on needing to win an indy car title. Maybe all he really needs is more seat time.

“Colton Herta is a more accomplished racing driver than some of the drivers on the Formula One grid. It’s a points system where he hasn’t accumulated enough points yet. He will achieve that this year in testing with us. That is the extent of the game plan at the moment.”

Assessing IndyCar’s Colton Herta’s Two-Day Formula One Test For McLaren At Portiamo

A deep dive into Colton Herta's Formula One Test with McLaren and how the IndyCar driver assesses the test and his desire to compete in the Formula One World Championship.

www.forbes.com

 

[toastet]

Zak Brown seems to disagree on needing to win an indy car title. Maybe all he really needs is more seat time.

“Colton Herta is a more accomplished racing driver than some of the drivers on the Formula One grid. It’s a points system where he hasn’t accumulated enough points yet. He will achieve that this year in testing with us. That is the extent of the game plan at the moment.”

Assessing IndyCar’s Colton Herta’s Two-Day Formula One Test For McLaren At Portiamo

A deep dive into Colton Herta's Formula One Test with McLaren and how the IndyCar driver assesses the test and his desire to compete in the Formula One World Championship.

www.forbes.com

Of course he will also need 300 Kms in a up to 2 year older F1 car and some other paper stuff but this doesn't replace the 40 needed needed points over the last 3 motorsportseasons for the superlicense. He got 20 for 3rd in 2020, 8 for 5th in 2021 and at the moment at 10th he is on 1 point which makes 29, not 40. He will loose the 20 points from 2020 next year so he will need 31 again at the moment beeing 10th. You get 30 points finishing 2nd in Indycar and 40 winning it.
Same for O'Ward without the needed points for 2023 but with 2 races left (last race double points) he is theoretically still in the position with his needed finish of P4 (at the moment P7) but unlikely. Their only Indycar driver with that box ticked is Palou with his needed 40 license points gained winning last year.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

From what I read, you can also get 1 point for doing 100 kilometers during a free practice. But I don't know what their plan is.

 

[toastet]

From what I read, you can also get 1 point for doing 100 kilometers during a free practice. But I don't know what their plan is.

Oh you're right. That is also possible up to 10 points for 10 FP1 entries. Completing a FIA series with a penalty points system and not receiving any penalties does also grant 2 points which doesn't matter for Indycar pilots since it's not a FIA series.

Then there is still an elephant in the room with the 2020 covid season and possible for the FIA to grant driver with 30 points a superlicense if these circumstances cost him points. That wouldn't help Herta if he stays on 29 and there could be trouble since Indycar had a full season in 2020 like F1.

 

[Jezza819]

Paywall but reliable source

Alpine eyes Gasly as Marko lines-up Herta for AlphaTauri F1 role

www.autosport.com

I'm watching the replay of FP2 right now and the Piastri thing came up. Gasly's name came up as a possibility at Alpine but I think it was Anthony Davidson brought up that Gasly and Ocon do not like each other at all. It goes all the way back to their carting days.

 

[NICKname]

Schumacher will be dropped by Ferrari at the end of the season.

Schumacher to cut Ferrari ties at end of 2022 F1 season

www.motorsport.com

Another reminder that winning F2 doesn't mean all that much...

 

[Veinz]

Although there has been no confirmation from Haas, it's accepted in the paddock that Schumacher won't be retained by the US-owned team for a third season in 2023, with Antonio Giovinazzi currently a favourite to land the seat alongside Kevin Magnussen.

I don’t blame them for wanting a change, but I’m not sure about Gio either.

 

[Blitz24]

I don’t blame them for wanting a change, but I’m not sure about Gio either.

Considering it is Ferrari calling the shots (and Gio is the reserve driver), Schumacher now either goes to Alpine or leaves F1 altogether.

 

[Veinz]

Steiner has already said that Ferrari has no say in the second seat, if they take Gio it’s to save money on leasing the engines.

Steiner: "Everything is open" as Haas considers F1 driver options

www.motorsport.com

 

[GingerBredMan]

Gotta love the pettiness here. He should have put the 2007 standings under it.