A lap at Nurburgring in YOUR car

[Raptor13x]

Good grief, where are you people finding all these wierd cars I've never heard of? lol Mitsubishi Magna? What the hell is that? haha, I suppose if you go through and find another wagon with the same drivetrain layout as the Magna with power and weight that are close, we'll substitute it like we did with the BMW 318.

 

[DuGong]

i got 7mins 50 in my nissan 350z. did exhaust and filter thats it.. yet to post foto... also i tyres are Falken Azenis RT-215... needs replacing atm

in game.. exhaust and S3 tyres

 

[Raptor13x]

^ You forgot to read the rules, Falken Azenis RT-215's are max performance street tires, which we are considering N3's, which is more accurate to real life, not S3's which have the grip of racing slicks. Try a lap with the N3's, I'd love to see how you did.

 

[DuGong]

i chose the soft semi slick... in the game... not the full slick.... (the one with the advan A048R)

--------

just changed the tires to N3...

time was 8.08.254

there was more understeer and alil bit of over.

car is lil unstable at high speeds due to the stock suspension.

overall the car had similar charteristic to that of the S3 tyre.

 

[Raptor13x]

Damn, you beat me, lol... I'll have to try to beat you a little later. That MR2 handles nothing like it does in reality. In the game I'm getting absolutely wicked oversteer, especially under braking, and the car's having tons of trouble putting the power down. In reality, the car feels very balanced and tends to understeer a bit into corners. The frankly incredibly amount of oversteer makes it a serious handful to drive around every corner. I'll have to see what I can do about tweaking the suspension to get it to handle a little more normal.

 

[DuGong]

hmm.. mine is acts similar in real life and the game. using N3 tyres.

but in the game im getting tons of understeer comming into the corner. im lacking power...... heaps of it... goin up hill.. it struggles.....

im sure ur car should be faster than the z.. its basically stock with exhaust and filter.

 

[Raptor13x]

You must have had a really smooth lap. Mine was incredibly sloppy; I spent the entire lap fighting the back end.

 

[niky]

Finally did this.

Real life car:

Mazda Protege MP3 rebadged as Ford Lynx RS

Power/Torque: 142hp/142ft.lb
Weight: 1235kg
*16" rims instead of 17" on US version, no sub-woofer, 15kg weight difference according to manufacturer's specs.
Tires: 195-50-16, Advan A460s

Game car:

Mazda Protege Sport 02

Power/Torque: 165hp/130ft.lbs
Weight: 1170kg (non-federalized)
Tires: 195-50-16 (off the internet), apparently same brand and model

Mods:

N2 tires, Jaguar XKR rims...

65 kg ballast - 10% forward to keep close to stock F/R balance of 62:38

Power reduced to 152hp by driving the car 9200km... no oil change... higher than RL stock, but since torque is reduced to 120, I'm still poorer off.

Fully Customizable Transmission: FD: 4.605, then Autoset 9
FD: 4.605 (RL 4.105, difference makes up for higher redline)
1st: 2.873 (RL 3.307... if you match the RL setting, 2nd gear starts at under 4k... something that doesn't happen in real life)
2nd: 1.842
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.970
5th: 0.795
6th: 0.717 (ignore)

Vital stats:

0-60:
RL - 8.3-8.7 s
GT4 - 9.5-10 s

400m:
RL - 16.5 s
GT4 - 18 s

*you can see how badly I'm handicapping myself here... ... but while low speed acceleration is badly affected by the changes, everything above second gear is roughly the same as in real-life, and that's all that counts.

NURBURGRING LAP TIME: 9:27.030

 

[Raptor13x]

New time for the MR2 Turbo: 8:04.670

It's probably still got another 10-15 seconds in it if I could keep the back end planted.

 

[MistaY]

MR-2 Krew in tha house yo.

My car:
96 Rev3 MR2 GTi16 (uk spec)
Power: 175bhp
Torque: I can't find the torque rating for my cars engine, i've looked for like 20 minutes on google for 3SGE with no damn results.
Weight: 1220kg
Tyres: Bridgestone Potenza S-02
Modzzzzzz: Blitz air filter (I doubt this makes any difference in power anyway)

GT4 Car:
97 Rev4 MR2 G-Limited
Power: 200bhp (I don't know where they got that figure for a 97 car)
Torque: 20.99kgf.m
Weight: 1220kg
Tyres: N2

Inital laptime is 8'53.457

But man I swear my cars stock suspension isn't this wallowy and I swear it doesn't have all this body roll. Also I could swear that the G-Limited looks like it has sightly higher ride hight as well.

 

[FastEddie12]

GT4 Car:
97 Rev4 MR2 G-Limited
Power: 200bhp (I don't know where they got that figure for a 97 car)

But man I swear my cars stock suspension isn't this wallowy and I swear it doesn't have all this body roll. Also I could swear that the G-Limited looks like it has sightly higher ride hight as well.

G-Ltd is supercharged (I think - may be a turbo)

Also UK market cars have different chassis settings to Japanese market cars. I believe they're set up harder.

 

[Raptor13x]

G-Ltd is supercharged (I think - may be a turbo)

Nope, the G-limited is naturally aspirated. The GTS is turbo. I think you are confusing it with the mki MR2, which offered a supercharged version.

 

[Raptor13x]

MR-2 Krew in tha house yo.

My car:
96 Rev3 MR2 GTi16 (uk spec)
Power: 175bhp
Torque: I can't find the torque rating for my cars engine, i've looked for like 20 minutes on google for 3SGE with no damn results.
Weight: 1220kg
Tyres: Bridgestone Potenza S-02
Modzzzzzz: Blitz air filter (I doubt this makes any difference in power anyway)

GT4 Car:
97 Rev4 MR2 G-Limited
Power: 200bhp (I don't know where they got that figure for a 97 car)
Torque: 20.99kgf.m
Weight: 1220kg
Tyres: N2

Inital laptime is 8'53.457

But man I swear my cars stock suspension isn't this wallowy and I swear it doesn't have all this body roll. Also I could swear that the G-Limited looks like it has sightly higher ride hight as well.

Glad to have another MR2 in the midst! The Potenza S-02's are an excellent performance tire, meaning the N3 tires would probably be more accurate and give you a bit of a quicker time.

Do you have the Beams engine, or did that not come out until later? I know the Beams version of the 3sge produced 200bhp, which is where they are getting their information. It's also possible that the Japanese had that engine in production in Japan earlier than it was available in the UK.

 

[HondaRacer]

My car (or rather my mom's...): 1998 Volkswagen New Beetle
GT4 car: 2000 Volkswagen New Beetle
All stock, N1 tires.

Lap time (it will improve--I hope): 10'10.009

 

[MistaY]

Glad to have another MR2 in the midst! The Potenza S-02's are an excellent performance tire, meaning the N3 tires would probably be more accurate and give you a bit of a quicker time.

Do you have the Beams engine, or did that not come out until later? I know the Beams version of the 3sge produced 200bhp, which is where they are getting their information. It's also possible that the Japanese had that engine in production in Japan earlier than it was available in the UK.

I'm pretty sure mine isn't the beams engine. I'm pretty they were used in the last revisions of the MKII like the rev4 cars, mine was pretty much built nearing the end run of the Rev 3 cars and anything past 97 that's uk spec is pretty much rare as hens teeth. According tothis guide the power was the same right untill the end run of cars. So maybe we didn't get the beams engine due to emissions or something, we never got it in the IS200 either. Bah there available as imports anyway.

I like your car though, did you do the rear light cluster swap? It looks very nice wingless and the turbos are damn quick cars.

Also i'll give the car a try on N3's.

 

[Casio]

Slowest car here award goes to.....

Me!

My Car: 1996 Seat Cordoba
Power: 80Hp
Weight:

GT4 Car: 2001 VW Polo GTi
Power: -20%HP, 91 HP. (Still 11hp more then mine)
Weight: -8%, 1002kg
Tyres: N2s

Time: 10'14.817

 

[FastEddie12]

Nope, the G-limited is naturally aspirated. The GTS is turbo. I think you are confusing it with the mki MR2, which offered a supercharged version.

Doh! I'll get my coat...

 

[Raptor13x]

I'm pretty sure mine isn't the beams engine. I'm pretty they were used in the last revisions of the MKII like the rev4 cars, mine was pretty much built nearing the end run of the Rev 3 cars and anything past 97 that's uk spec is pretty much rare as hens teeth. According tothis guide the power was the same right untill the end run of cars. So maybe we didn't get the beams engine due to emissions or something, we never got it in the IS200 either. Bah there available as imports anyway.

That makes sense. I was pretty sure if they did make it over there with the Beams engine, it was very very rare. Hell, the last year we got over here in America was in '95, and those are very rare.

I like your car though, did you do the rear light cluster swap? It looks very nice wingless and the turbos are damn quick cars.

Thanks Yes, I did the swap to '94+ tails. I'm not usually one for doing non-functional bodywork, but I think the '91-93 taillights were hideous. When I did the swap from the 5sfe to the 3sgte, the difference was amazing. It transformed the car into a whole new animal, especially at 15psi, and there's nothing cooler than the sound of that turbo spooling a few inches behind your ears. My anal-retentive quest to remove weight at all costs made quite a big difference in how it felt behind the wheel.

One thing I find interesting about your car is the fog lights. Fog lights were only available on the turbo models over here, perhaps that was a revision 3 thing. Also, I love the color, it looks like you've done an excellent job keeping the paint in top shape.

 

[jammyozzy]

My mum's car: '97 Subaru Impreza Estate 'Sport'. No idea on the power or weight figures, can someone help with this?

GT4 car: '99 Subaru Impreza Estate WRX STi. At 283hp it's waaay too powerful, but it's the closest match I can find.

Mods: N3 Tyres.

Lap time: 8'27.375. I think the real car would be pushing the 9 minute mark rather than 8'30.

 

[Raptor13x]

My mum's car: '97 Subaru Impreza Estate 'Sport'. No idea on the power or weight figures, can someone help with this?

GT4 car: '99 Subaru Impreza Estate WRX STi. At 283hp it's waaay too powerful, but it's the closest match I can find.

Mods: N3 Tyres.

Lap time: 8'27.375. I think the real car would be pushing the 9 minute mark rather than 8'30.

I have it listed as:
2.2L H4
Horsepower: 137 @ 5400 RPM
Torque (lb-ft): 145 @ 4400 RPM
Weight:
Auto trans: 2835lbs
Manual trans: 2915lbs (I have no clue why the manual is heavier than the auto, that's truly bizarre.)

Also, what sort of tires are on the actual car? It's rather unusual to have ultra high performance tires on an Estate, lol.

 

[niky]

Best accept it as it is. How hard have you pushed your car in real life? It may feel "soft" in comparison to your car, but as you're likely comparing 8/10ths driving in the real world to 10/10ths in Turismo, you're reading a little more into it than what's there.

That said, maybe you should do a chassis refresh, or buy a sports suspension... if you don't have an adjustable one, set the shock rates to 2 or 4.

You can do as I did to lower your power... run your GT4 car on the Test course (at 3x speed in B-Spec) until power is down close to stock... or run it in arcade mode and use the "quick tune" to lower power.

 

[MistaY]

Thanks Yes, I did the swap to '94+ tails. I'm not usually one for doing non-functional bodywork, but I think the '91-93 taillights were hideous. When I did the swap from the 5sfe to the 3sgte, the difference was amazing. It transformed the car into a whole new animal, especially at 15psi, and there's nothing cooler than the sound of that turbo spooling a few inches behind your ears. My anal-retentive quest to remove weight at all costs made quite a big difference in how it felt behind the wheel.

One thing I find interesting about your car is the fog lights. Fog lights were only available on the turbo models over here, perhaps that was a revision 3 thing. Also, I love the color, it looks like you've done an excellent job keeping the paint in top shape.

I know what you mean about the turbos, I test drove a couple of JDM ones when I was looking for my car. But I thought that a turbo was a bit much coming from a 60bhp hatch and i'd probably end up in a ditch. Maybe in a few years i'll look for a rear clip from a JDM turbo car and do the same thing to mine.

Oh also the paint isn't that good, the frunk has stone chips, one of the doors has little scratches and the rear has some touch up paint blobs. Oh and i've already had some idiot rub against it in a parking lot. I'm gonna get it fixed up when I get some cashola, also I want to get the wheels powdercoated black.

The only cars i've seen that don't have the front fogs are the early rev1 base model which didn't have a rear spoiler and came with the 3S-FE engine which only made about 119bhp.

Anyway enough rambling, those N3 tyres made the car feel allot nicer although I still get some snap oversteer but it's much nicer than using the S2's.
The time is 8'42.284 i'm sure there is some room for improvement there.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

My car: 1998 Pontiac Grand Am. 2.4L, DOHC 5-sp, 150-hp, 150-lbs-tq.
GT4 Car: 2002 Pontiac Sunfire GXP Concept 2.2L, DOHC, 180-hp.
I installed a race-trans to liken the 1st 5 gears to be the same as on my car.
I then test-drove it in the 1/4 mi. and to 100mph. slower 1/4 time, but same speed. (FF cars are horrible straight line in GT4) and took 1 sec longer to 100 than my car, blamed that on traction as well, and left it at 180hp, since it no faster.
My Time: (N1's) 9.18.870
not too bad for the horrible tires I've got, was pleased, though the car seemed very sluggish at higher speeds, and even seemed slower than my car despite it's supposed 30+ hp gain.
Handles fantastically though

 

[Danny]

8:43.960 in my mums black TT 1.8T.

I managed to make one in the right colour, with the right spec RS4 alloys as in real life.

Might try with the family Mazda 323F (Lantis) later.

 

[Raptor13x]

Out of curiousity, what tires did you use?

Those Audi TT's are beautiful, but they understeer like nothing else can.

 

[Danny]

I liked it, but it was a bit jittery at low speeds. I dunno about tires, lemme just check. I've had this festering in the garage for a while now.

Uh-oh, R2's.

Want me to do another lap with S's?

 

[MistaY]

I liked it, but it was a bit jittery at low speeds. I dunno about tires, lemme just check. I've had this festering in the garage for a while now.

Uh-oh, R2's.

Want me to do another lap with S's?

Unless your mums car is running semi slick tyres, you'll probably be running N2/3. If you find out what actual tyres your mums car is running it will help figure out what tyres you should use.

I think my parents used pirelli p9000 when they had a TT, well definitely a P something. Although I don't think they were very good tyres tbh.

 

[Raptor13x]

Yep, the rules are N1's for all-season or otherwise crappy tires, N2's for generic "performance" tires, and N3's for "ultra high performance" or "max performance" tires.

 

[Danny]

I know they're low profile sport-oriented tires. I have absolutely no idea what R/S etc type tires they are, took a few photos of said car hoping someone can shed light on it.

Edit: Still a pretty car...

 

[Raptor13x]

Those are some pretty grippy tires, go with the N3's