A lap at Nurburgring in YOUR car

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Nice time. Now I just wish my game was working; I'm getting a freakin disk read error. No major scratches on the disk or anything, I don't get it. :(
 
I know I'd be dead last in this "race" but would love to give it a shot. Anyone have any ideas what car I should use? I've thought about a few of the off roaders on GT4 but it seems to me that I'm pretty outclassed by everything. The pajero rally exceeds my hp and torgue (even though the cc's are smaller in the pajero than in my jeep,) the Tacoma comes close in cc's but is 2wd and still has far more hp and torque than I do, the dodge ram outclasses me in everything (cc, hp, and weight)...

As far as power to weight ratio goes... according to my garage I'm competing with the Subaru 360 and the VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) 68. Yeah, well I know that can't be correct... 3776 / 190 = 19.87 PTW, right? If that is the case the closest PTW 4WD car is the Suzuki Atlo Lapin turbo '02 at a whopping 59 HP and 840 kg.

anyway, I'd hate to use the wife's car ('94 subaru legacy wagon) because (and here come the flames) I hate that car. Perhaps if it were built for people 6 feet tall to drive I wouldn't hate it so much but it simply isn't. It isn't a comfortable car to drive and I don't enjoy it.

Also I've been thinking about previous cars.
1980 Toyota Corolla 1.8l sr-5 (the most fun I've ever had in a car -- rwd and all the fun you are allowed to have plus infinity.)
1976 Saab ... hmm, notice there aren't any saab's in the game?
1987 Ford Ranger 4 cylinder
1977 Pontaiac Grand Prix (good car, fast, but not the best with those things they call "turns")
1985 Dodge Colt Vista (I don't even want to go into it)
1978 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (I don't think they have something with a worse power to weight ratio in the gt4 lineup. -- I think I'd rather race the Benz patent motor wagon. (at least I'd have some dignity when losing!
1998 Chevrolet metro 3 cyl (55hp at crank)

Anyway if anyone can shout out a suggestion I'd be happy. I'm not looking for any deep thought/research so don't get crazy with it. If not, all good.

Real car:
2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Automatic
Dana 35 front diff
Dana 44 rear diff
3.73 axle ratio
30 X 9.50 R 15 tires on 15x8 rims
4 wheel disc brakes (no abs)
Live axle front & rear suspension
OAL 156.1"
OAH 72.1"
OAW 68.2
weight distribution 51% front 49% rear
Curb weight 3776 lbs (1712.76 kg)
235 ft lbs torque peak (@3200)
190 hp peak (@ 4600)
3958 cc engine
3.55 final drive
 
Real Car: 1997 Mitsubishi Galant ES
Tires: Yokohama ES100 (16 inch)
(Note: My car has the factory 4 speed Automatic)

GT4 Car: 1989 Toyota Carina ED 2.0X 4WS (Note: I tried my best to imitate my 1997 Galant ES)
Time 9:37.395 (In Arcade Mode with NO driving Aids)
Quick Tune-Up Settings
Power: +15 (141HP)
Weight: No change (1200kg)
Tires: N2 (comfort)
 
JohnCub
Also I've been thinking about previous cars.
1980 Toyota Corolla 1.8l sr-5 (the most fun I've ever had in a car -- rwd and all the fun you are allowed to have plus infinity.)
1976 Saab ... hmm, notice there aren't any saab's in the game?
1987 Ford Ranger 4 cylinder
1977 Pontaiac Grand Prix (good car, fast, but not the best with those things they call "turns")
1985 Dodge Colt Vista (I don't even want to go into it)
1978 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (I don't think they have something with a worse power to weight ratio in the gt4 lineup. -- I think I'd rather race the Benz patent motor wagon. (at least I'd have some dignity when losing!
1998 Chevrolet metro 3 cyl (55hp at crank)

Anyway if anyone can shout out a suggestion I'd be happy. I'm not looking for any deep thought/research so don't get crazy with it. If not, all good.

Real car:
2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Automatic
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I don't think any car in GT4 could properly approximate the horror that would be the Jeep Wrangler around a racetrack. Wrangers are scary to drive at 55mph in a straight line, let alone blasting around corners. They simply have no place on paved roads, though they are fairly impressive off-roaders.

As for your previous cars, the Corolla is a definate possibility. Otherwise, you certainly have a wide array of strange cars with no good comparison in GT4, lol.
 
Raptor13x
I don't think any car in GT4 could properly approximate the horror that would be the Jeep Wrangler around a racetrack. Wrangers are scary to drive at 55mph in a straight line, let alone blasting around corners. They simply have no place on paved roads, though they are fairly impressive off-roaders.

As for your previous cars, the Corolla is a definate possibility. Otherwise, you certainly have a wide array of strange cars with no good comparison in GT4, lol.
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or a detuned GNX... very detuned.
You'd be surprised what a lifted, big-tired Jeep can do with a corner. they can do much better than stock
 
well since i dont drive u tried a couple of my friends cars
nicola's 1litre arosa,rolling roaded at 55BHP,fully striped interior
has been on the nurburgring and apprently it took to long :lol:
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car used,VW lupo 78bhp N1 tyres
11:02.401

craig's leon
ATP GTRS turbo,forge motorsport intercooler,stainless steel exhaust,ecs tuning 356 front brakes 309's rear,Single mass flywheel,uprated clutch and a few other things.looks totally standard though est around 320-330bhp
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car used,golf MK4 GTi 301bhp N3 tyres
8:44.926

caroline's supra 1988 3.0litre turbo
uprated turbo,intercooler and injecters,dynoed at 412BHP
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car used 1988 supra 3 litre turbo 411bhp N3
8:04.802

sister boyfriends impreza '94 wrx standard except from an exhaust
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car used '94 impreza sedan sti 256bhp N3
8:22.210
 
Hmmm... Wrangler... there might be a Japanese 4x4 that would approximate it... what about an Arcade mode detuned Pajero Rally Raid?
 
Brother's car:
'93 Firebird Formula
350 -V8 4spd AT
Mods - 1.75 in headers
no cats, borla cat-back, straight-through no mufflers
MSD ignition module, 8mm race wires,
NASCAR spark plugs (necessary to fit w/headers)
K&N Intake,
Stage 2 Race trans 4spd AT
Hypertech stage 2 chip
Real-life power:???
runs 12.6 @ 112mph

GT4 Car: 97 Camaro
350 V8
Racing trans/with gears prepped to specs to match, using first 4 gears
stage 3 clutch/flywheel
racing intake/exhaust
stage 2 na/tune
racing chip
N2 tires
GT4 car power: 411
runs 13.6 @ 112mph (spins a bit easy)

Lap time: 7:59.845
 
^ I highly highly doubt a '93 Firebird with the above mods has 411hp, considering the car only made 275hp stock. Headers, exhaust, air filter, and computer chip do not equal a 136hp gain. I think we're looking at ~310hp, tops. Probably less, considering the car's age.
 
Raptor13x
^ I highly highly doubt a '93 Firebird with the above mods has 411hp, considering the car only made 275hp stock. Headers, exhaust, air filter, and computer chip do not equal a 136hp gain. I think we're looking at ~310hp, tops. Probably less, considering the car's age.
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I knew somebody would love seeing an American muscle car perform!
it has 179,000 on the odometer too.

And, like you, I doubted the power gains my brother proudly touted.

Unlike you, I noticed that the car runs the 1/4mi in 12.6@112mph. IRL. in GT4, this car runs a 13.6@112mph. speed sounds familiar? less grip, by far, but what can I do?
the top speed is possibly lower than the real car's though, but I'm not complaining, under 8 was good enough.

Unfortunatly, you clearly do not revel in the world of GM V8's.
35hp? on a 350? from FULL exhaust, w/1.75 in headers, no cats, & a muffler bypass - (you made that sound like normal exhaust there) intake,(oh God, I just noticed you called that an air filter) stage 2 chip,(you made that sound like a regular, stage 1 chip) MSD ignition parts a bundle,(you just left those out) NASCAR plugs,(them too) and a race-built transmission?(yes, this too) you're joking right? it's not a 1.6L Honda.

P.S. the racing trans in GT4 doesnt shift nearly fast enough.
let alone chirp the tires shifting into 2nd at 15mph 1/4 throttle:sly:

let's not forget we're claiming GT4's power ratings are at the crank. GM's are pretty much at the wheels
 
It is plainly evident that traction off the line in GT4 is bogus. Every car in the whole game is way faster on a real dragstrip than it is in the GT4 dragstrip.

Don't get me wrong, I love GM V8's (as long as they are all-aluminum), but honestly I don't see that power, or even that drag time happening with only the above mods. It'd be a long shot even with full drag slicks. He didn't happen to use nitrous or something on that run did he?
 
Raptor13x
It is plainly evident that traction off the line in GT4 is bogus. Every car in the whole game is way faster on a real dragstrip than it is in the GT4 dragstrip.

Don't get me wrong, I love GM V8's (as long as they are all-aluminum), but honestly I don't see that power, or even that drag time happening with only the above mods. It'd be a long shot even with full drag slicks. He didn't happen to use nitrous or something on that run did he?
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Don't get me wrong, I understand your thoughts. However, this is not the first time I've heard these thoughts.
Yes, the car ran a 12.6@112mph at Bradenton Motorsports Park, in desota, Florida. this happened in February of '06, with 177K on the ticker.
the car does not, nor has it ever had drag slicks, or any form of nitrous injection.
No, it is not all-aluminum. it is, in fact, an Iron-block LT-1:bowdown:

I have listed every part installed on it that increased power, including the trans, which likely puts more to the pavement. In fact, I didnt know a trans could shift that quickly, until I saw this one do it.
The car has been excessivly fast from day one, in Oct, 2000 when he bought it for 5000$
It has beaten supercharged LT-1 Firebirds, with the same exact exhaust (cept 1 5/8 headers on that one). How, we do not know.

The internals have never been removed, replaced, not even the head gasket. a valve cover was the deepest that has been probed into the depths of this monster. and yes, I love this car with all my heart.
 
I definitely believe those power gains. 350s are EASY to make power from. What I have a hard time believing is the person who posted a 410 BHP MK3 Supra doing 8:04.

LeadSlead, where in FL are you located? I'm from Tampa area. Never been to BMP, though.

BTW, Raptor. Your MR2 time should be above the Supra. Besides that, I still don't like that non-GT4 bike being on the list! You said cars from GT4!
 
Troux
BTW, Raptor. Your MR2 time should be above the Supra. Besides that, I still don't like that non-GT4 bike being on the list! You said cars from GT4!
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The MR2 is probably capable of a ~7:50 if it had the traction in the back it has in real life. The car is exibiting incredible oversteer in the game. I probably spent more time countersteering than actually steering. I'd try to work with it some more if I could get my game to work but I'm still getting that stupid disk read error.

As for the bike, feel free to ignore it, lol. :D
 
MR cars are tough to drive in the game. It's very tough to imitate the grippiness of tires in real life, how as soon as they regain a little bit of grip, it's as exponential as losing it, which creates that jerky feeling when you straighten out.

As a result, when you start to oversteer in a MR car, the rotational momentum from all the weight of the engine just keeps going, and it's tough to get traction back.
 
@Troux - I'm back in PA now, didnt care to much for FL, no offense.
But lived in Bradenton, about 10mi from 75, which is about 5-10mi west of the track - exit 220 if you're interested in going to the track.
 
Troux
MR cars are tough to drive in the game. It's very tough to imitate the grippiness of tires in real life, how as soon as they regain a little bit of grip, it's as exponential as losing it, which creates that jerky feeling when you straighten out.

As a result, when you start to oversteer in a MR car, the rotational momentum from all the weight of the engine just keeps going, and it's tough to get traction back.
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In real life, you can feel the car start to slide in the seat of your pants, and countersteer much better. I think that's the difference more than anything.
 
Raptor13x
In real life, you can feel the car start to slide in the seat of your pants, and countersteer much better. I think that's the difference more than anything.
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Very true. Can't feel the chassis through the DFP very well. :P

I've just never been to BMP because I'm not into drag racing. I'm a mod on our state's biggest car forums, and we have events there, so I'm prolly gonna get dragged there at some point. Don't plan on running, though. :P
 
Drag racing really is quite dull. I've raced at a drag strip 3 or 4 times, and each time I've just wondered why I bothered going. It's like waiting for bad sex.
 
it's only boring after an hour or two...and it depends on what your racing. if your constantly involved in good races (preferably winning), it's much better, but, when I constantly raced 87 civic hatches that ran 17+ 1/4's, yeah, it sucked
 
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