America - The Official Thread

[LeMansAid]

I'm just freaking tired of government immunity. It seems they believe they can do no wrong and it pisses me off and makes me want to buy lots of guns and ammo. I'm kinda nervous I'll need it within my lifetime. This is what American youth is growing up with. Your daughter is going to see even more of it than me. @FoolKiller Teach that girl how to speak convincingly, and also how to shoot.

Been watching a lot of Bruce Willis movies? Won't you be needing a lot of cohorts if it comes down to removal/change by force?

If those cohorts were to exist, then surely they would be prepared to enact change via the system of voting in leaders anyway. I think your problem is not so much that President Joe is untouchable, it's more that average Joe can't be arsed doing anything to shake the tree.

You don't need big explosions, you just need big.

 

[Joel]

....aaaaand we're all on a list.

 

[Sanji Himura]

EDIT: Former Attorney General Ashcroft is responsible for changing detention rules to state people can people be held for an unspecificed "reasonable" amount of time in "emergency" situations. He'd make a good poster child.

Actually, the rule was always there for unlimited detention. Here are two examples of where it is morally grey to do so:

1. If you are a reporter and held some critical information from an investigation or a trial. A warrant can be issued for your arrest for contempt of court until you either fight off the charge or you give them what they want. Any respected media person will opt for the former.

2. You can be held as a material witness in a case.

 

[McLaren]

I'm just freaking tired of government immunity. It seems they believe they can do no wrong and it pisses me off and makes me want to buy lots of guns and ammo. I'm kinda nervous I'll need it within my lifetime. This is what American youth is growing up with. Your daughter is going to see even more of it than me. @FoolKiller Teach that girl how to speak convincingly, and also how to shoot.

And yet again, you'd be facing the exact same views of your leadership because you'd run everything by your preferences.

I don't believe you're upset with govt. immunity. I believe you're just pissy because it won't let you do whatever you want, hence the want for a dictatorship & not democracy.

 

[Keef]

And yet again, you'd be facing the exact same views of your leadership because you'd run everything by your preferences.

I don't believe you're upset with govt. immunity. I believe you're just pissy because it won't let you do whatever you want, hence the want for a dictatorship & not democracy.

I definitely don't want democracy, that's for damn sure. Ancient Greece discovered its flaws right quick.

 

[squadops]

New O'Keefe Video: Cornell Dean Advises on Starting ISIS Club. I don't know what O'Keefe is but of course this sort of thing is designed to create shock and controversy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=43&v=b-wF9FVxV9w



Here is a response from The Cornell Daily Sun, I'm surprised a quick google didn't turn out any articles from mainstream media. Of course it's not a huge deal but we did get all sorts of mainstream blabber for the blue or gold or white or black or dress, so... Media priorities lol.

In his statement, President Skorton said he is convinced that Scaffido was “not aware of what he was being asked.” Whether Scaffido should have been more direct with the interviewer rather than erring to the side of political correctness, we believe, is irrelevant given the questionable journalistic practices used to fabricate this ruse. The video’s narration and editing, as well as the interviewer’s leading questions, show a disregard for ethical journalism at the expense of Scaffido.

http://cornellsun.com/blog/2015/03/25/editorial-dismissing-absurd-journalism/

At the bare minimum to me this does show the liberal lunacy our kids are exposed to, and we pay through the teeth for the privilege. It boggles the mind.

 

[Johnnypenso]

New O'Keefe Video: Cornell Dean Advises on Starting ISIS Club. I don't know what O'Keefe is but of course this sort of thing is designed to create shock and controversy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=43&v=b-wF9FVxV9w



Here is a response from The Cornell Daily Sun, I'm surprised a quick google didn't turn out any articles from mainstream media. Of course it's not a huge deal but we did get all sorts of mainstream blabber for the blue or gold or white or black or dress, so... Media priorities lol.


http://cornellsun.com/blog/2015/03/25/editorial-dismissing-absurd-journalism/

At the bare minimum to me this does show the liberal lunacy our kids are exposed to, and we pay through the teeth for the privilege. It boggles the mind.

I get the feeling the assistant Dean has no idea what the interviewer is talking about. I'd guess what's going through his mind is, as long as it's not about conservatives or anti-liberal causes, no problem come on in.

 

[Sanji Himura]

New O'Keefe Video: Cornell Dean Advises on Starting ISIS Club. I don't know what O'Keefe is but of course this sort of thing is designed to create shock and controversy.

I know who O'Keefe is. He singlehandedly destroyed ACORN and got some Federal dollars withdrawn from Planned Parenthood after they were caught on film telling "a boyfriend" how to obtain an abortion for an underage girl without parental consent, amongst other things.

 

[squadops]

A right wing 'watchdog' that's a bit rare, "how dare he use our tactics against us" ?

 

[DG_Silva]

I'm going to ask his here because I'm not sure where else to put it; The other half and I have been looking at house prices in the States, particularly historic houses. There are lots and lots of 3/4 bedroom houses that are around $150-180k, how come they are so cheap? I must be missing something, because in the UK you could be looking at $200-250k+ for something similar. Is it a case of people not liking old houses, or is it the locations (it can't be, because I'm looking all over...)?

 

[Brett]

I'm going to ask his here because I'm not sure where else to put it; The other half and I have been looking at house prices in the States, particularly historic houses. There are lots and lots of 3/4 bedroom houses that are around $150-180k, how come they are so cheap? I must be missing something, because in the UK you could be looking at $200-250k+ for something similar. Is it a case of people not liking old houses, or is it the locations (it can't be, because I'm looking all over...)?

Location makes a large difference. In my particular city, houses closer to campus demand a premium. Get a few miles away from campus and prices drop.

 

[FoolKiller]

I'm going to ask his here because I'm not sure where else to put it; The other half and I have been looking at house prices in the States, particularly historic houses. There are lots and lots of 3/4 bedroom houses that are around $150-180k, how come they are so cheap? I must be missing something, because in the UK you could be looking at $200-250k+ for something similar. Is it a case of people not liking old houses, or is it the locations (it can't be, because I'm looking all over...)?

Multiple things go into it:

1) Location, Location, Location. In Kentucky $180,000 will get you a large multiple-story house. In New York it will get you a one-bedroom apartment. I had a manager that moved to here from New York. With the money he made from his house sale in New York he bought three houses, one to live in a two to rent. Also, keep in mind that some regions are still recovering from the housing collapse. Cities like Detroit have dirt cheap houses in near abandoned areas. Local location also plays a role. The US has lots and lots of rural land still available. $180k will get you a nice three bedroom home on many acres in a rural area, or a similar house with an acre in an urban area.

2) We have a lot more land in the US in general. Supply and demand economics.

3) Older homes might not meet current regulations. Depending on the local laws, it is grandfathered in, but the moment that you renovate something you will have to bring everything up to code. This means nothing has been renovated in a long while. God only knows what the pipes and electrical look like behind that nice, antique wall paneling. It could also be that the moment you touch anything you will need to fix everything. I'm in that situation in my house right now. We don't have central A/C. We want to put it in. That will run us about $2,500. However, we have one of the first circuit breaker boxes in the city. The parts to upgrade it are no longer made and it won't handle adding an A/C unit. So, we have to redo our electrical before we do anything else. That has also been estimated in the $2,500 range. We also need to redo all our old windows because they are poorly insulated. Adding a new A/C unit will just mean a waste of energy. Ultimately, just to add a $2,500 air unity will wind up costing us $6,000-$7,000.

And forget ever improving anything if it has some kind of special historic recognition.


I could possibly give more specific reasons if I knew where you were looking and how old you are thinking.

 

[DG_Silva]

Basically we were looking at around the £100-130k mark, somewhere that's not too cold but a decent size. We spotted this one: http://circaoldhouses.com/property/renovated-historic-home-in-mattoon-illinois/ but can't believe it was that cheap! My house costs the same, and it's a 2 bedroom mid-terrace about half the size, in a suburb about 5-6 miles from the city centre.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Basically we were looking at around the £100-130k mark, somewhere that's not too cold but a decent size. We spotted this one: http://circaoldhouses.com/property/renovated-historic-home-in-mattoon-illinois/ but can't believe it was that cheap! My house costs the same, and it's a 2 bedroom mid-terrace about half the size, in a suburb about 5-6 miles from the city centre.

Kitchen is pretty outdated and very small. Heat looks like it's steam/boiler set up and likely the pipes are original cast iron. Maybe on septic tanks and not city sewer. Windows look like they could be the original windows or if not, many years old so possible issues with drafts, heating costs. Insulation is also sometimes a big issue with older homes. No basement that I can see.

A house like that needs a really thorough inspection by someone that's familiar with trades and potential issues. It could be an absolute gem of a house at a bargain price, or a total nightmare or something in between. A big warning sign for me is the kitchen, which looks like it's 50ish years old or more. It's usually one of the first big upgrades someone does to a house when they really love it and can afford it, and it's kind of a sign to me that the last person to own the house might only have done the bare minimum needed to keep going and there may be lots of updating needed.

 

[IforceV8]

Here is a more detailed listing http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3401-Western-Ave_Mattoon_IL_61938_M84665-36269

Pay phone 👍

 

[DG_Silva]

Thank you, so it looks like an undiscovered gem. It's not for some years yet, I was just wondering why it was so cheap compared to the UK. I think the main issue seems to be supply and demand; in the UK, the housing market is much smaller than the demand being placed on it (due to poorly managed immigration, not building any new properties, greedy estate agents, owners and solicitors, etc.). Also, I love how cheesy those realtor pictures are!

 

[Dotini]

The president has declared a national emergency and signed an executive order which gives the Treasury Department the authority to apply sanctions and freeze the assets of anyone in the world, either with his fingers on the keyboard or standing alongside him, who threatens the foreign policy of the United States.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/national-emergency-us-slap-sanctions-hackers/story?id=30045263

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/04/01/expanding-our-ability-combat-cyber-threats

"the President announced a new sanctions program that authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of State, to sanction malicious cyber actors whose actions threaten the national security, foreign policy, or economic health or financial stability of the United States."

(Bolding by the National Security Council.)

 

[TheCracker]

Basically we were looking at around the £100-130k mark, somewhere that's not too cold but a decent size. We spotted this one: http://circaoldhouses.com/property/renovated-historic-home-in-mattoon-illinois/ but can't believe it was that cheap! My house costs the same, and it's a 2 bedroom mid-terrace about half the size, in a suburb about 5-6 miles from the city centre.

Unless you have a job lined up in Mattoon. You're 3 hours drive away from Chicago and 2 hours away from St Louis, which is the nearest slice of civilization. A nice house in Nowheresville is going to be cheap wherever you live in the world. It's just that a country as vast as the US has more Nowheresville than Europe and especially the UK.

Here is a more detailed listing http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3401-Western-Ave_Mattoon_IL_61938_M84665-36269

Pay phone 👍

Outdoor pool is a little small. Or perhaps it's just a hot tub?

 

[CSLACR]

Earlier I mentioned employees within the US (the military does not deploy within the US) who are able to quit their jobs. Soldiers aren't able to simply quit. In fact, clear policies exist which punish soldiers for standing up against immoral actions by the military. But cops can quit, FBI agents can quit, etc.


If you are able to quit your job then how on earth did you get to the point of submitting to brainwashing? If a person is okay with being brainwashed that's a red flag right there.


I get the joke. But it isn't immoral. The government's job is to defend the rights of the people and it must employ people to do that.

As America's dictator, I don't know if I'd be concerned about the details. Now, if I was the President it would be different. I'd be forced to send these people to trial. Unfortunately, laws exist which would allow my own investigations and trials to be conducted in an immoral and illegal manner which renders the whole thing pointless. That's why I'm taking the dictator approach. Libertarian dictator. That doesn't make any sense on the surface but once you start enforcing the protection of life, liberty and property and penalizing anybody who does not adhere to those simple moral concepts it begins to make sense.

I'm just freaking tired of government immunity. It seems they believe they can do no wrong and it pisses me off and makes me want to buy lots of guns and ammo. I'm kinda nervous I'll need it within my lifetime. This is what American youth is growing up with. Your daughter is going to see even more of it than me. @FoolKiller Teach that girl how to speak convincingly, and also how to shoot.

Ah yes, the ancient wisdom of removing everyone's rights so nobody can have their rights violated.
That's what you want, right? You want to imprison people without trial, because you have personally decided what they're guilty of, and even though you claim to be angry that they violate constitutional rights, you want to tear the constitution to pieces and burn it at stake, because you also won't follow it.

I'd say it makes all this 100% hypocritical.

The whole point, of that trial, or charging with a crime, that you're so mad about, is to figure out if the people have done wrong. Yet you're going to throw people away without figuring anything out either.

You've gotta be kidding, you sound like a meat head on Facebook demanding the heads of someone that said they don't support war, and therefore soldiers.
It's a 2-way street, which I guess pisses you off.

 

[Dennisch]

America.

Is this map correct:

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[squadops]

It looks right to me although I thought you could open carry in Utah without a permit. Remember there is conceal and carry to consider also.

EDIT, oh wait, Texas? gonna have to check that one.
EDIT, it's right even with a conceal carry you can't open carry, strange.

 

[TheBook]

There's no law specifically forbidding or allowing open carry in Michigan that I know of. Bit of a gray area legally.

 

[PeterJB]

There is something very wrong with that chart if Texas of all places has stricter gun laws than the rest of the country.

 

[squadops]

Well, it's only for handguns so it's perfectly legal to open carry rifles and shotguns.

I wonder what the percentage of population has cc permits compared to the rest of the U.S.

I should have mentioned in my first post it's also important to check city ordinances as they can vary greatly compared to the state.

 

[Dennisch]

I can totally see myself living in a not too big of a town, driving my pickup, filled with cheap Texas crude, going to the bar, and all that with guns dangling on my holster belt.

Aah. One can dream.

 

[squadops]

Unfortunately most bars don't allow firearms inside. You could at least show off your best rifle of choice on a cab gun rack.

 

[Carbonox]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...d-to-be-black-to-get-into-medical-school.html

For some reason I don't feel like condemning this guy's trick at all, even though the PC crowd quickly got up in arms.

 

[Danoff]

America.

Is this map correct:

?

It's a bit misleading. Open carry vs concealed carry is a hotly debated topic. Most people regard open carry as safer than concealed carry since you know who has a gun. But it tends to make people who are uncomfortable with guns nervous. The Texas law is apparently a little different.

In Texas, open carry was banned in the 1800s following the civil war because the union wanted to make sure that the confederates didn't decide to reassemble and take a stand. It stuck around for other reasons (making sure that former slaves didn't decide to attack former slave owners). But there were provisions to exempt people who were traveling, and people who lived on the frontier (which is a lot of Texas). So it was a really weirdly enforced law.

Anyway it hangs around vestigially for no good reason.

You'll find concealed carry a bit more consistent with permissiveness on guns, with some states that allow concealed carry (like California) actually in practice having banned it. In California it is legal to concealed carry with a license, but in practice they deny everyone from getting a license.

 

[FoolKiller]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...d-to-be-black-to-get-into-medical-school.html

For some reason I don't feel like condemning this guy's trick at all, even though the PC crowd quickly got up in arms.

This guy did it better, 30 years ago.

 

[Sanji Himura]

The president has declared a national emergency and signed an executive order which gives the Treasury Department the authority to apply sanctions and freeze the assets of anyone in the world, either with his fingers on the keyboard or standing alongside him, who threatens the foreign policy of the United States.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/national-emergency-us-slap-sanctions-hackers/story?id=30045263

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/04/01/expanding-our-ability-combat-cyber-threats

"the President announced a new sanctions program that authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Attorney General and the Secretary of State, to sanction malicious cyber actors whose actions threaten the national security, foreign policy, or economic health or financial stability of the United States."

(Bolding by the National Security Council.)

This is clearly targeted at those who give money to Snowden, who, bear in mind, wasn't charged with a crime, let alone convicted of one. As long as Snowden is in Russia, he won't likely be brought back to the US under any political pressure the US might apply to Putin, so they are doing the next best thing.