OGLE B
Yes, I understand Famine.
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If plant life were the only producer of oil, Zardoz would be right{ Zardoz is emminently right and plant life does not produce oil it produces coal }, but about 30 years late, as we would have run out of oil long ago! By the way Zardoz, I appreciate your research, and especially like the one article you linked to: The Abiotic Oil Controversy, by Richard Heinberg, which said: There is no way to conclusively prove that no petroleum is of abiotic origin. While also saying: What if oil were in fact virtually inexhaustiblewould this be good news? Not in my view. It is my opinion that the discovery of oil was the greatest tragedy (in terms of its long-term consequences) in human history. Finding a limitless supply of oil might forestall nasty price increases and catastrophic withdrawal symptoms, but it would only exacerbate all of the other problems that flow from oil dependencyour use of it to accelerate the extraction of all other resources, the venting of CO2 into the atmosphere, and related problems such as loss of biodiversity. Oil depletion is bad news, but it is no worse than that of oil abundance.
Irony, irony.{?Logic,Logic}
The opponents to the abiogenic theory have never explained how the earth could have ever had enough plant life in total to equal the amount of oil that is found in just one of the giant oil fields in Kuwait. {...R>O>P..} Of course, there are those who definitely do not want this to be true, for their own economic, political, and personal reasons, and will fight it all the way.
This is an opinion thread, and this is my humble opinion.
Ile be back on this as ime really pressed for time and such but i had to respond .
I thought the thread would be forgotten for a while but Mr Ogle seems to have found a spark , albeit form Titan ;
U could not call me an opponent of abiotic oil theory as ive only heard of it today but i certainly can explain to U that Earth could have had enough lifeforms to make the quantity of oil so far known seem like a teardrop.
A few little known facts ; Earth has been populated by life for something in the region of 90% of it's being a spheroid . That alone is a hugeness that the mundanity of human conciousness which considers 100 classmates to be biodiversity can never fully comprehend *. Next , throughout that time whose to say with certainty that there were'nt considerably more individual lifeenergies engaging in complex chemical activity. The chemical activity that is complex enough to generate a responsive sheild or 'Atmosphere©'.Around the time of the Dinosaurs it could be said that life was at least as populous and perhaps more biodiverse than it is know .
*ile have to rub this in for the thickos, humans are not the yardstick by which to measure the universe or even life on earth . There have been several extinction events aboard this atmosphere already to date ; humans are a really big animal in comparison to most other life forms ,especially microbes as each human being has the potential of having the equivalent to it's own current population in a Microbial sense living IN and ON the human .
Thusly it is with some ease that Oil could be an Organic product of some maturation.The question is really why , with such an abundant source ; microbial sealife ( protifers ) we did'nt get
more damn oil . The answer , as any real oilman & not ure bunch of cranks ogle , is that oil is a
Geological Capture , this being the abiotic part, it needs the accretion above a deposit of micobial detritus to send it lovingly on it's way into the planet's interior , thats step one and very common , no sweat in geologic time , next it has to STOP journeying in the crust at a very specific depth , whats termed the KITCHEN , where the carbons are pressure heated to form Hydrocarbons ( Oil & Gas ) . This is the first limiter , i do not have the stat to hand but ile be back , as any deeper and the temperatures are too great for stable compound bonding , of any complexity ( delicacy ) . This layer in the crust is on the move like all the crust , in fact like all apparent solid features of the planet and the oil & gas seek the upper levels , so over time , they reach the surface . This is the second limitation as the oil & gas that appears at the surface , disappears rapidly . It is beleived that that has happened to a substantial quantity of the Oil&Gas before Human's woke up to it's utility .What keeps the stuffs in the ground is the presensce of two types of rock working in conjunction ; a 'porous' igneous sort of rock to form the field of the Oil&Gas and a harder sandstone or such above it to 'cap' the field and halt it's escape .This is well ( haha) understood in the oil business as the prime reson for oil's scarcity . It's a hard natural resource to locate , not covering anything like the surface of prehistoric oceans .ALSO , and this is very important it requires quite modern tecnology to extract it from nearly all of it's occurences. PROOF of both the above statements can be found in the facts of the oil industry itself . OIL has been known to man since at least the Ancient Greeks , in surface pools but these are rare and tiny , at the start of the industrial age COAL ( a Hydrocarbon ) was the energy supply of choice , simply because there were , initialy quite large deposits just under the surface which could be mined using what we would term primitive technologies ( spades , picks , horses , oth preindustrial tools ) . Oil was not mineable and was capped by a hard rock that drilling tools up to some time into the TWENTIETH century simply could not reach . Oil was known to have great potential as an energy source but simply was'nt exploited because of it's rarity .
i think the first well to actually strike blackgold was in texas @ Spindletop . After that it just took off as an energy fuel and there was no looking back , or forwards much , but consider that at the time (1901 , i think ) no one believed there was any oil in Saudi Arabia , it was considered unsuitable for prospecting even. Its only 105 years since that strike in spindletop , nothing in geological ( earthsense) terms , but the oil ( a BIOLOGICAL / CHEMICAL PRODUCT ) is nearly gone , it is my opinion we have lass than half of it left and nothing but a big maw of simian activity as its guardian .
Ile be back on this one , but ime pissed .
