Are you sick of the "I have a mature life" argument?

[RDB]

I have a family and a life I can't dedicate most of my time playing GT5. I only play when I can and enjoy every moment of it. I am not that good at this game specially online since I don't have much time playing like others do. I get destroyed, pit maneuvered, bump from behind, side swiped when playing online. But I do have a life to live and in real life I drive really well

 

[TT3AZ]

We are all losers playing this game according to me, we would be doing better stuff like reading and educating our selves.

 

[Tonnie073]

My 18 year old thought it was easy as well, until he found the Vettle challenge, does not do any licenses or special events nor does he do any of the events that are restricted, like NASCAR. He just cranks up the performance, slaps on some racing soft tires, turns on automatic and wins the A-Spec stuff, and tells me it is easy. Of course he always wants to borrow my cars to do this with.

I also think the vettek challenge is hard, but i dont (always) use overpowered cars

 

[DA__dogg]

We are all losers playing this game according to me, we would be doing better stuff like reading and educating our selves.

I do. I read the descriptions of every car when I acquire them. Thus ramping up my knowledge of the cars I own 👍

 

[Ben78]

Wow, now the preaching starts... I play when they sleep, and/or when they are at school, yes, I'm self employed so can spare some time, no slave chains around me, you know...

Also, GT5 is so amazing that it is the only video game I've put so much effort to since maybe, Metal Gear Solid on PS one, 15 or so years ago.

"Self employed" No wonder you're lv 40 in A-Spec. Try that when you work 8 hours + 3 hours of commute total everyday + sleep + girlfriend + friends + "ME TIME", and I don't even have kids.

"So amazing" ? That is sad.

 

[M-POWER_FTW]

We are all losers playing this game according to me, we would be doing better stuff like reading and educating our selves.

Haha, I love this. 👍

 

[onerichf]

Are you guys sick of the "I have a life, a job, a wife, a kid, etc..." argument?

Come on, these guys think they deserve to get an overly easy GT5 just because they "have a life", and always justify their lack of skill for the game with that.

For the info, I'm 37, I have a job, I have a wife, I have two kids, and I'm A-Spec 40 and B-Spec 40 now, with 1226 cars. 99% complete, missing just two trophies, working on the others now... Yeah, no problem, family's cool too, really cool, there is time for everything in life people.

If you do the math for what you have accomplished since the game came out in November, the levels, the cars, that is hundreds of hours if you did it legitimately... including the paint drying excitement of training your B Spec driver(s), unless you have 1226 Suzuki Cappuccinos in your garage, it has taken millions and millions and millions to accrue your stable of cars. Including dozens and dozens of hours running 100's of grinding races to earn cash... SNORE SNORE SNORE... There is no skill in winning Indy with the X2010 100 times for cash. NONE.

I would rather spend those hours honing skills in other portions of the game, driving and collecting favorite race cars. Working to improve my lap times and understanding of tuning on a car.

Look at the number of wins you have compared to the number of races you have entered and I can guarantee you it is nowhere near a real life winning percentage. Why? Because most of us have an advantage in every race we run because it is fun to race but more fun to win. The AI is slow, and very early on the brakes, they don't fight for position nor do they retaliate for banging or hard racing. So, now that we know it's a game, there is no "right way" to play it. If there were, you wouldn't have options, you would have a strict menu of accomplishments needed to proceed through each and every phase.

I applaud the dupers and traders, of which I am proudly both, 13 garages with more than $10,000,000 cash for each ID on my machine, and I raced those races and I earned that money and I bought myself some very cool cars, and I had one heck of a lot more fun than running one race over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for a million bucks....

PD and Sony could have shut down eBay selling with a simple VERO complaint to eBay. eBay's own rules actually state that this content, video game DLC, is NOT ALLOWED to be sold on their site. Anyone complaining about virtual content being offered could result in auctions closed and users suspended. So that was not their motivation.

Frankly I see nothing more than being punitive as motivation for these limits. Another example of catering to the lowest common denominator. People who were too "honest" (errr....stupid) to find away around grinding for peanuts, got upset when they realized that their buddies were stacking up multi-million dollar cars like cord wood without wasting their lives running in circles.

They spent 5 years making about 25% new content, and shoving in the other 75% as leftovers from GT4. So maybe PolyDigital Phonies just feel like everyone should waste 75% of their gaming time trying to get 25% of enjoyment out of the product.


By the way, I discovered video games in 1976 when I first played Pong. So welcome to all you teen, 20, 30, and 40-something late comers to the video game world... :-)

 

[Moglet]

I'm finding it ridiculously hard to level well with a full time job and girlfriend. I work 9-5 every week day and after I've come home and had dinner etc. it's about 6.30. I can try and play all evening if I've got nothing else to do but it's still very little time when you take into account how much grinding needs doing. I only usually get 1 full night of GT5 a week when you add in friends and family time!

The weekends are taken up with my girlfriend, luckily she's into games so enjoys watching me play GT5 but it's still not for very long. I've struggled to level 29 and I've only got that far with the help of the Seasonals but to get the high end cars is going to take far too long for anyone but the most dedicated gamer.

Luckily my life's a bit fuller than that!

 

[xEquinox]

Well I have school, a job (not really full time, I'm 16,) a girlfriend, and I'm a varsity athlete all while being a sophomore in high school.. I still find time to play. I'm only Level 28 but i got the game a little after Christmas so give me a little slack..

 

[Beldrueger]

Any post critizing how others play the game or want to spend their time is worthless.

 

[anominus]

Every one talks about grinding and how it sucks (especially the guy with the Audi picture) but what about seasonal events, online, remote races. All things PD made to cut down the grinding, are you even doing them? I am and am making fine money from it.

 

[jaycee_xr3]

I'm sick of sick people, intolerance will not be tolerated

hahaha come on!

 

[freedomweasel]

Not as sick of that as I am about posts complaining about other posts.

 

[freight48]

I can't tell you my real opinion or I'll get a visit from the moderators.

 

[Nurburgthing.]

We are all losers playing this game according to me, we would be doing better stuff like reading and educating our selves.

This is exactly what i've been trying to say to some of my GT chums. Also, how many people who are old enough to drive a real car have a licence? Think of all the time wasted and the money wasted on electricity, ciggies, booze, drugs and/or food consumed while playing a VIRTUAL game. They could have ploughed it all into real life.
Nothing beats driving for real, no matter what you drive.
Back to the topic at hand though. If you can 40/40 GT5 with a wife and kids, you have a very patient wife.
Or, your relationship is on the rocks.

 

[freedomweasel]

This is exactly what i've been trying to say to some of my GT chums. Also, how many people who are old enough to drive a real car have a licence? Think of all the time wasted and the money wasted on electricity, ciggies, booze, drugs and/or food consumed while playing a VIRTUAL game. They could have ploughed it all into real life.
Nothing beats driving for real, no matter what you drive.
Back to the topic at hand though. If you can 40/40 GT5 with a wife and kids, you have a very patient wife.
Or, your relationship is on the rocks.

Not a chance that driving a real car costs the same as a PS3, GT5, a wheel, and the electricity to run them.

 

[Tommy_861]

Listen I need to take care of a pet monkey that I stole from the wildlife conservatory as well as help out and feed my 2 invalid grandmothers, while working 90 hours a week hosing out the booths at the porn shop and collecting manure for fertilizer, while my crackhead sister runs a giant pot growing operation out of the basement of my house which I cant afford to fix the roof so it drips on my head while I am playing GT5 with my broken DS3 that my uncle stepped on during a bad heroin trip. All the while keeping up my hobbies of bug collecting, the ukulele, and world masturbation champion. And I'm still level 40!

So Kaz should give me 10 free X2010s because GT5 is the only good thing in my life, so all you haters just go die!

 

[Nurburgthing.]

Not a chance that driving a real car costs the same as a PS3, GT5, a wheel, and the electricity to run them.

Its the sense of achieving something IRL. Not sitting around for hours on end pushing little buttons and winning fake money.

And, its tons more fun..

 

[harveya]

The op is self employed, married, a farther and is lvl40/40. I bet he is a great husband and farther, spending good quality time with his family during the week and weekends. I bet he takes his kids to sport and runs around after them for most of Saturday. I bet he does house hold chores like mow the lawns etc. I bet he puts alot of time into running his own business, yet he still has time to lvl40/40.

Either you do none of the above or you don't sleep!!

 

[freedomweasel]

Its the sense of achieving something IRL. Not sitting around for hours on end pushing little buttons and winning fake money.

And, its tons more fun..

That, I agree with.

Autox events are usually pretty darn cheap, maybe $30 on the high end.

In general the "go do it outside" argument annoys me and it sounded like you were claiming actual driving to be cheaper. All good.

 

[Jack Do]

These people maybe spend more time with their families after work maybe now that you've finished the game you should do the same. :💡:

 

[Nurburgthing.]

That, I agree with.

Autox events are usually pretty darn cheap, maybe $30 on the high end.

In general the "go do it outside" argument annoys me and it sounded like you were claiming actual driving to be cheaper. All good.

I wish it was cheper. In the UK its very expensive to own and run a car. I spent £1000 on my lessons, test and car, then came insurance. Ouch!

 

[ItsHim]

Are you guys sick of the "I have a life, a job, a wife, a kid, etc..." argument?

(...)

If you are so mature, why bother playing "kids" stuff?

I'm really sick of that argument, really. Too bad, you "grown ups" just discovered modern video games yesterday...

Are you trying to justify that you'll rather spend time with a console game than with your kids and wife?

I used to play video games when I was 12 and I still do. Just the priorities have changed over the past 25 years.

Yours should too. I'm not telling you how to lead your life, but you started the argument.

 

[dude2106]

It is not about being easier, it is already a very easy game, a-spec and b-spec that is. The problem is that to get some of the good cars and complete the game you need to play the same events over and over again. It wastes time and it is not fun at all. It is more work then play, that is why i use the autogrinder to get somewhere. I don't like grinding, this much. I have other things to do. Especially not being able to save in endurance races is enough so that i will never be able to complete the 9 or 24 hour races, because it just takes too long time, and i need to have a least 3 days to do a 24hour race, if i do play a lot, and i just can't the time to do that. The only chance i have is in the summer, where i have a lot of time off, but by then my room gets so hot that my PS3 would melt into the shelfs if i keep it on for that long.
You can make a game hard without making it unnecessarily time consuming. A lot of other games are that, why can't GT manage that? I love GT5, but that is because i love cars, i don't like the A-spec or B-spec very much, i just want money to buy all the cars i want. That does take a lot of time, and if you have to play it the "right way" that is going to take you years, without really being much fun.

 

[snowxdadx3]

If you are so mature, why bother playing "kids" stuff?

I'm really sick of that argument, really. Too bad, you "grown ups" just discovered modern video games yesterday...

GT5 is awesome, yes, flawed, illogical, but awesome in the final balance, you should try a bit harder, or maybe even your kids can help you out...

punk

 

[kafiend]

To the OP. Don't make immature statements to a mature audience.

 

[Diesel Pump]

As I stated in another post.....

"There once was a concept that has long be lost of actually working hard to achieve something. The Mentality of many today has been shaped by the various social programs that have been instituted through government schools and hand me outs. Not to mention the ones spoiled by parents that have given them everything that their hearts desire.

Its like the teenager that gets their parents car for the first time and dogs it all over town not having a care in the world about the wear and tear on the car. Let them have to work hard for long hours to save and buy that same car and you see a different result. That person now understands how much blood, sweat, and tears it took to get that car and treats it much better than the previous example.

The point is you will never appreciate that duped car because you didn't work for it. And you will treat it like crap.This type of mindset will also effect your real life.Good luck!"

This is the best post I've read in these forums. It even amazes me more and breaks all stereotypes about American people. Congratulations, It was a pleasure reading this.

Hmm,I'm disappointed...just when we thought You're going to say:

"Speaking of which,I'll go and do a 9 hour endurance,while my kids are in bed"💡

Yeah, I'm very disappointed with my stats in the game too... (Need that 100% ASAP)

Haha, I love this. 👍

Awesome comment, yeah, we all need to get educated, the more you know, the more you realize you still need to know...

The op is self employed, married, a farther and is lvl40/40. I bet he is a great husband and farther, spending good quality time with his family during the week and weekends. I bet he takes his kids to sport and runs around after them for most of Saturday. I bet he does house hold chores like mow the lawns etc. I bet he puts alot of time into running his own business, yet he still has time to lvl40/40.

Either you do none of the above or you don't sleep!!

I don't know dude, but in Mexico there is a big service culture. Nobody mows their own lawns, unless you do it for fun (yeah, some guys think that is fun), we pay a guy to do that things, and it is pretty cheap (some third-world advantages, you know)

My business... Ever heard about art? I create, I don't sell mass services or products, people are really nice and I'm really grateful that they look for my work, I don't go offer it everywhere.

My fatherhood? LOL, love how my kids smile, how my wife smiles, how my family love me and I love them. Man, sometimes you guys look like jealous slaves, there IS time for everything.

Are you trying to justify that you'll rather spend time with a console game than with your kids and wife?

I used to play video games when I was 12 and I still do. Just the priorities have changed over the past 25 years.

Yours should too. I'm not telling you how to lead your life, but you started the argument.

Oh, yeah, I'm so immature that my priority is GT5, you got it perfectly right.

 

[F18]

@OP: I go by the philosophy that I paid the same amount you did for the game. So why, since I don't have the same amount of free time as you do, should I be penalized and only have access to 75% of the game content?

 

[DMoss84]

To the OP. Don't make immature statements to a mature audience.

👍

 

[Diesel Pump]

@OP: I go by the philosophy that I paid the same amount you did for the game. So why, since I don't have the same amount of free time as you do, should I be penalized and only have access to 75% of the game content?

Actually I might have paid more. Video games here are like 75 US dollars approx. due to import taxes, and stuff.

On your point, everybody should have access to 100% with some effort, that is.

And let me say that I busted my ass for 18 years working 6 days a week for 10 or 12 hours, working hard to be self employed one day. It's not like I got some magical gift of free time.