Aussies/Kiwis : Monday Night Racing

[supersonic-88]

Ok guys, since nothing has come up on torc talk, tizzla & I have come up with a schedule for this week. Hope I've done this right but if I have left anything out, just tell me

Date : 25th May
Time : 8:11pm (GMT +10) -- Synchronised Start Times - 8:11 / 8:46 / 9:06 / 9:41 / 10.01 pm (AET)

Race 1 @ 8:11 pm (GMT +10)
Car - Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe
Track - Suzuka (10 Laps)
Comments - All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 650PP, Run with R1's
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Race 2 @ 8:46 pm (GMT +10)
Car - Nissan Fairlady Z
Track - Suzuka (10 Laps)
Comments - All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 650PP*, Run with R3's
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Race 3 @ 9:21 pm (GMT +10)
Car - Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-spec II
Track - Fuji (5 Laps)
Comments - All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 600PP, Run with S3's
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Race 4 @ 9:41 pm (GMT +10)
Car - Subaru Impreza WRX STi '07
Track - Fuji (5 Laps)
Comments - All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 600PP, Run with S3's
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Race 5 @ 10:01 pm (GMT +10)
Car - Clio Sport V6 / Tuned
Track - Suzuka (10 Laps)
Comments - All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 650PP, Run with R3's


* The 350Z may only have a max PP of 649. That's ok, just run the max PP that the car can take.

Tunes are available from DC & TLD

If any member here is also a member at torc talk, then please inform the guys over there about this schedule, if they wish to race it

See everyone tomorrow

 

[Mad94d]

I posted that schedule over at TORCtalk.👍

 

[supersonic-88]

I posted that schedule over at TORCtalk.👍

Thanks mad 👍

Are you gonna be able to race this week?

 

[Mad94d]

Hopefully. Probably a 50/50 chance i'll be there. I'll post here again tomorrow to say if I definetely will be or won't be.

 

[GTP_joeninety]

Thanks Supersonic.
I thought the wheels had fallen off the wagon on this one.

Will be there

 

[Nicko]

I will definitely be there, thanks to Tizzla and supersonic for making a schedule 👍

I should be able to record our races tonight, I've been meaning to the last few weeks

 

[crazyhorse]

Thanks, fellas... been absolutely snowed under, and appreciate the effort to keep MNR going. See u for few laps tonight 👍

 

[supersonic-88]

Was just looking over the schedule & I think the times are wrong. There isn't enough of a gap between races 2 & 3 and then there's too much of a gap between races 3 & 4. Gonna edit it now so make sure you recheck the times!

Edit: Ok I've made the changes. I've allowed 35 minutes for the suzuka races & 20 mins for the fuji ones. That should be enough, going off previous weeks. Please inform the guys at torc talk of the changes

 

[Mad94d]

Not gonna be there tonight once again, H/W and TV shows I watch are stopping me. Such as Top Gear Australia and Sea Patrol. I may do MNR next week and just tape the shows.

Hope you guys have some good racing tonight guys.👍 Have fun.

 

[TiZzla]

I hope we get a decent turnout, this is the best schedule since MNR started if i dont say so myself

 

[Lion-Face]

I think we should make a new schedule,

One that promotes good racing.

To be honest the only good races we have are at suzuka or fuji

Like the ford GT race on s2s is a joke, same with the high speed ring race, just wall riding and punting.

I think we should stick to suzuka and Fuji, i cant get anough of the clio races, and the GTR at fuji was great too 👍

I enjoyed the FordGT race immensly despite being punted early in the race. It was one of the few races i've enjoyed. I find racing R tires all the time boring. The F40 was also a good one on Rtires as the car doesnt lose all its character racing on the stickier compounds. HSR offers something different i find, and i didnt find any wallriding in last weeks race, although there was definantly alot harder racing and more contact in that event than any of the others. Need a london race with MNR Rolling start rules to provide closer racing

I'll probably race the first few tonight but this schedule looks a little boring to me personally. Hopefully some close racing makes this worth while, i guess i should reserve my judgement till afterwards

 

[TiZzla]

I enjoyed the FordGT race immensly despite being punted early in the race. It was one of the few races i've enjoyed. I find racing R tires all the time boring. The F40 was also a good one on Rtires as the car doesnt lose all its character racing on the stickier compounds. HSR offers something different i find, and i didnt find any wallriding in last weeks race, although there was definantly alot harder racing and more contact in that event than any of the others. Need a london race with MNR Rolling start rules to provide closer racing

I'll probably race the first few tonight but this schedule looks a little boring to me personally. Hopefully some close racing makes this worth while, i guess i should reserve my judgement till afterwards

Ok while i respect your opinion, i have been racing at GTP for quite some time and have raced some of the best people in the world. And using R tyres provides the best close racing there is, end of story.

And as for london, there is a reason why theres no london event in the online section!

The schedule was made with the intention of providing the best possible racing, and thats exactly what it did

 

[supersonic-88]

Frustrating night traffic wise but enjoyable none the less

Race 1: Started 4th. All I can really remember about this one is a clio driver who punted me off twice during the race. So annoying week in, week out to have punters ruin MNR. The same guy took out most of the other guys as well. Wasn't enjoying the car much either but drove on to finish 4th with ausnicko (I think) spinning off right at the end which handed me the position.

Race 2: Started about 6th but had a terrible start due to shifting way too early. Got going though and was working my way through the pack. The same punter was in this race and again driving stupidly so I had enough and hit him off. It probably wasn't the right thing to do but whatever. From there just kept the pace up & finished 2nd.

Race 3: Started 5th and was a great race for the full 5 laps. Lots of 3/4 cars wide down the straights & in the corners. Thought I had the race won at the end of lap 4, as I thought it was the last lap. Of course it wasn't, the guys behind got in front and I finished 3rd.

Race 4: Started 8th and again a bad start from shifting too early. Loved how the car went though, felt like a rocket. Was up to 3rd by turn 2 but was hit off and then copped a penalty re-entering the track. Was frustrated but pushed hard, passing lots of guys to finish 2nd.

Race 5: Started 8th and was looking forward to the trusty clio. However the race didn't go well. First few laps were chaos with the non MNR players everywhere, then at the start of lap 3 or so another AU player tapped me off at turn 1 & didn't wait. Not sure if he knew he had hit me. Fell back & then to compound the frustration, for some odd reason I spun at the hairpin, dropping myself to last. From there just pushed really hard to put in good laps & finished 3rd. I ended up spinning on the final lap as well which topped off a bad race

Think the schedule went well, what did everybody else think? Race tyres seem to bring better racing, at least in my view.

Not sure what's happening next week. There may or may not be something posted at torc talk but if there isn't, we'll come up with something else

 

[ED5TA_155]

Then at the start of lap 3 or so another AU player tapped me off at turn 1 & didn't wait. Not sure if he knew he had hit me.

Yeah, really sorry about that mate . I couldn't tell for sure if I did make contact with you since there was no vibration on the six-axis on my end. And I definitely would've waited if TiZzla and the other AU driver hadn't driven off.

First few laps were chaos with the non MNR players everywhere.

I agree with you there. It seems like everyone was crawling into that first corner.

Really tried to make a clean first impression for my first MNR race but it didn't really turn out that way did it? I could keep up with TiZzla while I was in his slipstream but couldn't otherwise.

Anyway, I'll see if I can improve my lap times and I'll be looking forward to the next MNR event.

 

[Lion-Face]

Ok while i respect your opinion, i have been racing at GTP for quite some time and have raced some of the best people in the world. And using R tyres provides the best close racing there is, end of story.

And as for london, there is a reason why theres no london event in the online section!

The schedule was made with the intention of providing the best possible racing, and thats exactly what it did

If its close racing you want, why is it we only do Pro events? Im sure intermediate events would provide a change of pace with various car combos and PP values, and even closer racing, the less one has to manage their car, the more they can concentrate on their racing line, therefore narrowing the gap between different skill levels. Its effectively what racing Rtires at 600/650pp is doing.

 

[TiZzla]

If its close racing you want, why is it we only do Pro events? Im sure intermediate events would provide a change of pace with various car combos and PP values, and even closer racing, the less one has to manage their car, the more they can concentrate on their racing line, therefore narrowing the gap between different skill levels. Its effectively what racing Rtires at 600/650pp is doing.

................ yes, intermediate events is what we need

 

[supersonic-88]

Yeah, really sorry about that mate . I couldn't tell for sure if I did make contact with you since there was no vibration on the six-axis on my end. And I definitely would've waited if TiZzla and the other AU driver hadn't driven off.

No worries I know what you mean about not feeling any vibration. Sometimes I've been really close to another driver and then they've gone wide, as if I had hit them but there was no vibration or contact noise, so it's hard to tell if there actually has been contact or not.

Glad to see another new MNR driver. Hope you enjoy it 👍

 

[GTP_joeninety]

Frustrating night traffic wise but enjoyable none the less

Race 1: Started 4th. All I can really remember about this one is a clio driver who punted me off twice during the race. So annoying week in, week out to have punters ruin MNR. The same guy took out most of the other guys as well. Wasn't enjoying the car much either but drove on to finish 4th with ausnicko (I think) spinning off right at the end which handed me the position.

Yes.... that Clio - what goes through the heads of people like that

Thought i was going to take that race - saw him coming and pulled over to let him thru - should have realised that i was heading into the sand when i heard him slowing down to line me up.....wow the feelings that course thru your body in a moment like can not be good for you!

I missed the next race by 45seconds while texting to him and ended up in a 2 car race - eventually bailed out of the race - which was dumb as it deleted all my tuning that i had done afew hours before.

Ran default settings for race 3 and 4.

Any way was still good to see 10 AU/NZ drivers on the grid.
Bring on the private rooms!
Thanks guys:tup:

 

[Lion-Face]

................ yes, intermediate events is what we need

Well it appears as though thats what your going for racing 350z's on R3 tires. Out of the first two races i dont remember once breaking traction due to putting the power down. No need to mediate the throttle, just point and go. My comment was in regards to that, if you want close racing and forcing a default setup that is going to bridge the gap of various skill levels in the racing field, then why not race Intermediate events.

I'm all for racing R tires when its called for, the likes of Ford GT Test Car or other high end racing machines. But road cars like the 350z, i think, would provide much more interesting racing on Stires over R's.

 

[crazyhorse]

Thanks again, ss88 and TiZ for putting together a schedule for this week.

Reading the posts here, and, as one might expect, there are some differing opinions on what formats lead to good racing. Personally, I'm much closer to lion-face's way of thinking... I prefer the more 'tail-happy' challenges. That said, it was a nice change of pace with the Fairlady on R3s... a pleasant change to have grip... I had fun with it.

I will be posting an MNR schedule at TORC this week, and because there are differing tastes, and also because there are so many GTPers on show, I would very much like to borrow your Fairlady combo, if that's ok with you guys(?). 👍

 

[TiZzla]

Well despite having the best schedule since MNR started we Didn;t get the best turnout but oh well....

Race 1 should have been a beaut, i started from the very back of the grid, next to a cali and a clio. Through the esses the clio took me out, i rejoined the track and followed him. He started taking everybody out 1 by 1, with me desperately trying to catch him to remove him from the race. Ended up having a great battle with Aussienicko, and we were side by side through the final chicane on the last lap, nick jumped on the gas too early and completely lost it 20metres from the line! Rear view shows my team mate joeninety sneak in for a 1-2 kiwi finish, Awesome!

Race 2, i cant remember much from this one, i started mid to rear of the pack, that same idiot americano was in our race again, but we took care of him was battling with supersonic, stonemonkey, whitburn and aussienicko. This car was an absolute weapon on R3s and i was almost in the 5s

race 3:This race was the best! i had pole position for once with joeninety next to me, but he braked waaaay to early coming into T1 and never saw him after that?? Me, supersonic, aussienicko and whitburn battled it out for the whole race. We had 4 different leaders and we were 3-4 wide all over the show with only one moment of contact when we tried going 3 wide through the big sweeper (100R?) Whitburn was on my case all the way to the line, less than a tenth at the end 👍

Race 4: My car was an absolute rocketship, started from the 3rd row but absolutely smoked everyone off the line and took off. Must have been my gearing, Thanks to the GTP garages!!!

Race 5:Started at the back again for this one, was making my way through the feild but after passing some guys down the front straight i took waaaay too much speed into T1 and went straight into the sand. Whitburn had a huge lead and i spent 5-6 laps hunting him down with GTP_ED5ta_155 going with me. When i caught Whitburn at the hairpin i got a huge run on him on the run to spoon, i was alongside him and he gave me room, we were still side by side coming to the exit of spoon. I was hugging the inside to give him room and then suddenly he starts turning into me like a mad man, resulting in him spinning out!?? had the track to myself, was well off the pace though i couldnt get into the 3s for some reason.

Overall was a pretty average turnout. But i think the race formats were great, there was always a battle to be had in each race with everyone keping their car on the road for more than half a lap

Still waiting for a reply from crazyhorse ( i PMd you) about next week. Please dont go back to GT test car on s2s, its really not fun.............................

 

[crazyhorse]

Please dont go back to GT test car on s2s, its really not fun.............................

Never was S2s... and I, and lion-face, clearly, had a blast

PMing you back, mate

 

[supersonic-88]

Well it appears as though thats what your going for racing 350z's on R3 tires. Out of the first two races i dont remember once breaking traction due to putting the power down. No need to mediate the throttle, just point and go. My comment was in regards to that, if you want close racing and forcing a default setup that is going to bridge the gap of various skill levels in the racing field, then why not race Intermediate events.

I'm all for racing R tires when its called for, the likes of Ford GT Test Car or other high end racing machines. But road cars like the 350z, i think, would provide much more interesting racing on Stires over R's.

I can understand what you're saying. You don't want it to become 5 races all with races tyres which provide less challenge. I agree with you with there. However I think a few races with race tyres are needed. It's all about the right balance to please everybody. I'd say something like at least 2 races with R tyres & 2 races with sports tyres. The remaining race/s can be on either, depending on the car. That way its the best of both worlds.

About not breaking traction on race tyres, I can't agree with you there. Driving that viper fast was certainly a challenge (at least for me) & in the last race with the clio, as I mentioned, I spun the car at the hairpin from doing just that, putting the power down & breaking traction. I don't believe it was as simple as point & go, like you say. Jamming the throttle on would still have a good chance at spinning the tyres.

Intermediate events don't really make sense. If we were to run those, then it does become point & go. There is far less challenge there. With race tyres, yes there is less challenge but there is still some. What tizzla & I were trying to achieve was that with race tyres, because there is slightly less challenge, everybody is then able to concentrate more on actually racing & competing. You have greater confidence in the car & thus are more likely to make moves. Comparing that to say sports tyres on a car that isn't suited to those, you then have everybody concentrating more on just keeping the car on the road, than racing, resulting in less battles & competition.

A good example of this contrast is the clio races on R3's & the GT-LM races on S3's. Everyone of those clio races has been a blast. Passes galore with fantastic racing. Looking back at those GT-LM races though, at least from what I saw, there was little racing, everybody was too concerned about just keeping on the track, cars were constantly spinning off & gaps between each driver were large.

I definitely agree with you that there should be races with non race tyres. However perhaps the point I'm getting is that it should be car dependent. I'm all for a bit of challenge, as long as it still allows me, as well as everybody else the confidence to still compete & race 👍

I will be posting an MNR schedule at TORC this week, and because there are differing tastes, and also because there are so many GTPers on show, I would very much like to borrow your Fairlady combo, if that's ok with you guys(?). 👍

Sure you can use it. Glad you enjoyed it

 

[Nicko]

Thanks for the great racing last night everyone I really enjoyed last night and I would have to say it was my favourite MNR of all time... My favourite race had to be in the Viper, had a great battle with Tizzla the whole race but lost it on the final chicane! lol

Great having you race with us ED5TA_155, always great to see more Aussies racing with us

 

[crazyhorse]

Monday, 1st June, MNR Races 1, 2 & 3 are posted here. Races 4 & 5 will come from your very own TiZ & supersonic-88. Cheers, fellas 👍

 

[Mad94d]

I should be attending tomorrow night for the first time in ages. I'm actually quite excited about getting some good close racing in again.

 

[TiZzla]

Crazy horse obviously you haven't read my PM's

Change the suzuka 750pp to corvette tuned since you already have the s2000

And what do you mean by no control tyres?

 

[supersonic-88]

Cheers crazyhorse. Don't know what tizzla has picked but I went for:

Car - Lotus 111R / Tuned
Track - Suzuka Circuit (10 Laps)
Comments - No control tyre(s). All 'Quick Tune' options are adjustable to 750PP

I noticed that you have Suzuka Circuit (5 Laps) & Fuji Speedway F (10 Laps) listed under races 4 and 5 so will my 10 lapper at suzuka be ok?

Crazy horse obviously you haven't read my PM's

Change the suzuka 750pp to corvette tuned since you already have the s2000

And what do you mean by no control tyres?

I think it means you can pick any tyre, just whatever suits the car.

 

[extreme car]

oh wow how can I miss this thread? can I join in? seems like a very interesting mix of cars that I've never driven before.

 

[TiZzla]

oh wow how can I miss this thread? can I join in? seems like a very interesting mix of cars that I've never driven before.

you have entered MNR more than once!

Without even knowing it haha