B-Spec in 1.16 Update!

[TonyJZX]

yeah i'm not interested in using the 'overtake' button or whatever as an AI that requires you to tell it to overtake is neither 'artificial' or 'intelligent'

here i think your only recourse is to choose the car wisely

eg. for some reason my Bob using the 725pp Peugeot 908 is killing the 750pp crowd so even though the car is 25 down it is a better car

i just set it to 'pace up' but not 'push it hard'

 

[dddsprayshop]

You can easily use it to grid like the wind SSRX. I'm sure there are lots of cars that would do the trick there. I've been using the Mercedes VGT with max power and top speed set to 286 on RH tires. It wins easily every time with no babysitting beyond starting the race and collecting the credits. 140k credits with 200% login bonus. The downside is that the race lasts only a little over 4 minutes so you have to restart pretty often to take full advantage of it.

The 24 minute Nurburgring pays 600k and lasts almost 30 minutes. With the right car it could be won without babysitting

Perhaps you missed my post from earlier. Using the Pagani Huayra '13 at Route X in Like The Wind, you can win every time with no inputs whatsoever, except to start the race obviously. Race time is around 4'04.5xx this time around for me. Don't know how much more easier you want it. I am grinding it right now while eating dinner and watching TV and so far have farmed over a million credits this session.

The AMG VGT free merc fully tuned, i use for RouteX.
Today i tried B-spec, too bad you can't use nitro with b-spec, but fastest selection and an easy win.
Also tried the Redbull again, just for testing and curiousity.
B-spec alone will drive like a scared AI, but when i "help" him with X and only allow late braking
this was the result.

This is fun, intense but fun.

 

[alexnipi]

in my opinion the b-spec is really useless my first try was on the 24 mins of nurbur with the mini vgt after few mins i decided to abandon the race i was getting desperate of the ai, can not reach the next opponent in the race.
after that i decided to do it myself for see if the car is not capable of do it but my surprise was i pass every ai car on the first lap with a normal driving.
This was my experience

 

[diegorborges]

Well, useless it isn't.

If you want to grind for credits, it works. It's far from the great B-spec experience GT5 had but It made me already more than 2 million credits. Grinding nicely with the Mazda LM55 VGT.

Some races it wins without any input. Some others you'll need to guide him.

 

[FoRiZon]

HOW TO: GET EASY MONEY BY DOING NOTHING

1. Fully tune the LCC Rocket (tune the transmission and add some ballast) and install the SS tires
2. Run the Ascari Challenge at S Class
3. Start the B-Spec
4. Change the pace to "push the pace"
5. Eat, pray, love, or do anything you want

Optional: Keep an eye occacionally to see if your car crashed for no reason. Sometimes it just do that.

488.000 (with x2 bonus) per half hour! ​

 

[breyzipp]

488.000 (with x2 bonus) per half hour!​

Like the Wind Route X is 140k per ~4 minutes (with 200% bonus) and never fails. Using my Huayra 15th Anniv with all upgrades, default tuning settings and gearbox max speed at the highest.

 

[diegorborges]

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Like the Wind Route X is 140k per ~4 minutes (with 200% bonus) and never fails. Using my Huayra 15th Anniv with all upgrades, default tuning settings and gearbox max speed at the highest.

Works with the LM55 and Merc VGT also.

 

[breyzipp]

The AMG VGT free merc fully tuned, i use for RouteX.
Today i tried B-spec, too bad you can't use nitro with b-spec, but fastest selection and an easy win.
Also tried the Redbull again, just for testing and curiousity.
B-spec alone will drive like a scared AI, but when i "help" him with X and only allow late braking
this was the result.
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This is fun, intense but fun.

Nice! I gave it a try as well but my overall tournament finishes were 8th and then 6th. Still messing around mostly and I got to be a bit more careful with pushing my driver.

How do you give commands most of the time? I tried these things:

1) Set overall behavior to "push the race" for laps 1 & 2, set it to "push it hard" for the 3rd lap. First I tried mostly using the slipstream and overtake commands but that was not really getting anywhere.
2) Second try I set the same behavior but I used accelerate a LOT, also in combinations with the left/right lane switching. Usually I released accelerate before a corner a little later than other AI drivers so my Bob got faster into the corner and hopefully could overtake also while doing it. The risk here is to keep it pressed a bit too long though so Bob spins out (which happened quite often since I was really pushing him a bit too hard). To exit a corner, push accelerate once Bob finished braking into the corner so that his exit speed is faster. Very occasionally I also used overtake and slipstream but not often, it seemed easier to just overtake "myself" by pressing accelerate together with switching lanes.
3) What I also tried on the 1st Silverstone race was to set Bob to "push it hard" directly at the start and gave no input whatsoever. He finished 7th which was not bad either. The few times I watched the TV screen I saw him sometimes trying to overtake (being next to a car) but not really making it, maybe with a little of bit of accelerate input I could make him get those overtakes.

The Red Bull series is the only set of races in career mode where I didn't get all the stars yet simply because I dislike driving the Red Bull X-catalogue myself, it's just way too fast and futuristic to be any kind of fun for me. So maybe I could use Bob to get those done so he can be of more use than just grinding credits.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

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Works with the LM55 and Merc VGT also.

I would imagine that there are at least 20 cars that would work there.

 

[breyzipp]

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Works with the LM55 and Merc VGT also.

Yes I wanted to try the Bugatti Veyron as well, I'm sure he can do it with that one as well. But on second thoughs I'm just gonna keep it doing it in my Huayra so I have only 1 car to repair. The chassis is degrading already, pp has gone down from oil requiring a change but Bob still manages to win it with ease. Lap times have dropped from 4:07.xxx to 4:09.xxx now.

What times do you get with the LM55 and the Merc? Maybe if another car is significantly faster it would be a good idea to change. I'll try my Veyron once as well.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

The Merc runs around 4:07-4:08 most of the time. Of course Bob will rear end some of the other cars from time to time but easily wins. Mazda was about 10 seconds slower but am not sure if I changed the oil in it.

Zonda C12S 4:18

 

[breyzipp]

Edit: 4:11.356 for a fully upgraded Veyron on RH tires. Added body rigidity, oil change, lowest possible settings for downforce and highest speed setting for gearbox (500 km/h).

 

[diegorborges]

The funniest thing is how Bob REALLY respect the commands now. Push accelerate and the "button of doom" = Overtake. In a powerful car and he WILL FIND A WAY to pass.

"You shall not pass!" Not here, eh.

I've seen him doing insane moves sometimes. Very funny. It's like giving drugs to a mouse in a push of a button and watching the reaction.

Must try that in a 1000hp car with comfort tires.

 

[FoRiZon]

Funny. I try the route x. The replay cam on the b spec is zoomed closer to the car to make it more focused.

 

[diegorborges]

The Merc runs around 4:07-4:08 most of the time. Of course Bob will rear end some of the other cars from time to time but easily wins. Mazda was about 10 seconds slower but am not sure if I changed the oil in it.

Good to know, my Mazda does 4:22-4:25.

Time is money. Will try the Merc. We gotta break this 4 minutes mark somehow.

 

[FoRiZon]

Seriously the arrow effect when changing lanes looks cool lol

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Good to know, my Mazda does 4:22-4:25.

Time is money. Will try the Merc. We gotta break this 4 minutes mark somehow.

Did you lower the downforce all the way and set the gear as high as it goes on the Mazda.
Mine did 4:18 without an oil change.

Audi R10 TDI Stealth 4:13

Mazda with oil change 4:17 TCS 5 SRF Off Pace=My Own Pace

Mazda with oil change 4:16 TCS 0 SRF ON Pace=Push it hard

Tried the Veyron. a little faster than the Merc on the straights at 294 compared to 292 but slower overall with a 4:11

 

[TurismoBad]

I think it'll work well for grinding with Nurburgring 24 min - with a car that can do whole race without refueling it should be a win.

Hard tires, no pit stops. Should work.

 

[Filthywzard]

I have been grinding Route X for a while now in my Aston Martin One-77, fully tuned, reaching cruise speed of approx 292mph.

I was running times around 4:09.1xx, now after 35 runs the car can only manage an average time of 4:14.4xx quite a significant drop in pace.

Anyone got a good car/setup for any of the 24minute races without needing to give any directions? returning to my ps3 every 5 minutes is annoying.

 

[breyzipp]

Hmm just done 4:06.665 on my Huayra and the next 3 rounds were also in that area. And that's the same oil & rigidity degrading Huayra which was before doing 4:09, 4:10 and even slower. It was at 688pp last time I checked, normally a maxed Huayra is 69x-something pp

I think the grid might also have something to do with it, if some opponents are in the way and Bob needs to brake a little. And that doesn't mean the top rabbit, might also be some other cars lower down the ranks that hold Bob up.

If a car is slower than what you expect maybe exit the event entirely and reenter to reset the grid.

4:06.585 just now, he's even getting faster

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I think it'll work well for grinding with Nurburgring 24 min - with a car that can do whole race without refueling it should be a win.

Hard tires, no pit stops. Should work.

Problem is that it is raining there so Bob will want to pit and change tires. You have to babysit a little

 

[crowhop]

I had an interesting B-Spec experience this morning. I wanted to give it another go after being very dissatisfied the first go round.

GT World Championship. The 5 Race Championship at the end of International A.
The car of choice was the Formula GT with added weight and power reduction to get to the 750 PP number. I wanted to see if Bob could manage this with relative ease and dignity without me having to bother with much of anything. At the beginning of the races I set it to "Push the Pace" and let it be.

The first four rounds went great. Finishing 1st each time and was in 1st by the beginning of the final lap in every instance. Until the finale at the Nurb 24h Course.

Bob had absolutely no idea how to drive it at the Nurburgring. He would slow to 40 and 50 mph on every corner. He was 10th going into the second and final lap. I had to really push him, doing the accelerator for him through the corners. Managed to get to 4th just before the final straight before spinning off and finished a very disappointing 6th place in that race.
Still won the overall championship for that one, but the behavior for the final race was very curious.

Has anyone else experienced what seemed to be GT5 beginner Bob out there at the Nurburgring? Or any other track?

 

[diegorborges]

Problem is that it is raining there so Bob will want to pit and change tires. You have to babysit a little

Hmmm it was raining the whole Le Mans 24mins and Bob kept the RH tires all the way on the LM55. Got 2nd on the race without babysitting at all!

(well, I haven't bought Rain tires for the car, maybe because of that...)

 

[breyzipp]

Hmmm it was raining the whole Le Mans 24mins and Bob kept the RH tires all the way on the LM55. Got 2nd on the race without babysitting at all!

(well, I haven't bought Rain tires for the car, maybe because of that...)

Hmm that could very well be the reason, when I tried Le Mans with Bob in the Rocket '07 he insisted on pitting every damn lap. But I've bought both rain tires for it as well.

 

[dddsprayshop]

Nice! I gave it a try as well but my overall tournament finishes were 8th and then 6th. Still messing around mostly and I got to be a bit more careful with pushing my driver.

How do you give commands most of the time? I tried these things:

1) Set overall behavior to "push the race" for laps 1 & 2, set it to "push it hard" for the 3rd lap. First I tried mostly using the slipstream and overtake commands but that was not really getting anywhere.
2) Second try I set the same behavior but I used accelerate a LOT, also in combinations with the left/right lane switching. Usually I released accelerate before a corner a little later than other AI drivers so my Bob got faster into the corner and hopefully could overtake also while doing it. The risk here is to keep it pressed a bit too long though so Bob spins out (which happened quite often since I was really pushing him a bit too hard). To exit a corner, push accelerate once Bob finished braking into the corner so that his exit speed is faster. Very occasionally I also used overtake and slipstream but not often, it seemed easier to just overtake "myself" by pressing accelerate together with switching lanes.
3) What I also tried on the 1st Silverstone race was to set Bob to "push it hard" directly at the start and gave no input whatsoever. He finished 7th which was not bad either. The few times I watched the TV screen I saw him sometimes trying to overtake (being next to a car) but not really making it, maybe with a little of bit of accelerate input I could make him get those overtakes.

The Red Bull series is the only set of races in career mode where I didn't get all the stars yet simply because I dislike driving the Red Bull X-catalogue myself, it's just way too fast and futuristic to be any kind of fun for me. So maybe I could use Bob to get those done so he can be of more use than just grinding credits.

I just wanted to start with "it's simple" , but then i read that you did not finish that serie 100%.
Why? I wanted to write: Press X and loosen where you always brake, not where BOB wants to brake.
okay i'll try:

1. Enter, select race soft tires, traction at 4, abs=1, ds3 at 5 (don't know if it helps)
2. B-spec and when i can use the DS3, i press X and select the extreme (full throttle or hard)
3. then i push R1 and X and only loose X when i want to brake, not when BOB wants to brake.
4. select your view (SELECT) and race.
   
5. Or push R1 and when BOB brakes, Push X shortly and you see BOB overtake before entering the corner.

I only grind silverstone, so i know where to brake, and that's always very late and not at every corner, there are 4 corners you can go full speed.
But i want to see in another account if i can gold Redbull with B-spec.

btw. you give commands, but when you hold a button, you take over (gas and brake)
and can steer a bit with the d-pad, on what side bob needs to stay.

 

[diegorborges]

Hmm that could very well be the reason, when I tried Le Mans with Bob in the Rocket '07 he insisted on pitting every damn lap. But I've bought both rain tires for it as well.

So my tactics for B-Spec Bob Authorized Equipment are:

 

[azidahaka]

Sort of illustrates how horrible and off pace the AI is that they can be overtaken from 100's of feet back entering a corner.

Yup and it also shows you how much faster the AI could be, and how more aggressively behave if PD wished to!

 

[Pseudopod]

LTW Route X is indeed easy money. I had a 757B Stealth thingie lying around that I just maxed out and put at 420 km/h top speed and it wins consistently by a few second with no input.

The question now is... Should I pay my roommate a dollar per million credits she earns while I am out of town?

 

[Fuzzi0n]

Grinding the 24 min Nurburgring race at the moment with an R18, just set it to push hard and it's an easy win. Seems to be quite smart with overtaking too, you don't have to tell it to do anything and it'll happily weave through traffic without any real issues. It does sit behind people when set to drive it's own pace though, so as long as you don't use that it's fine.

Just need some proper endurance races now...

 

[breyzipp]

LTW Route X is indeed easy money. I had a 757B Stealth thingie lying around that I just maxed out and put at 420 km/h top speed and it wins consistently by a few second with no input.

The question now is... Should I pay my roommate a dollar per million credits she earns while I am out of town?

Depends on how good she is and how long you're gone, don't forget to take into account you will be losing about 1,5 dollar per hour.