B-Spec in 1.16 Update!

[dddsprayshop]

I tried B-spec on the redbull events.
i did one on a b-license, that was okay, just some minor commands and he( game uses my avatar) wins the race.
On the redbull it was very different and i learned about the functions.
It's like you sit beside him and can controll brake and throttle.
I hold the throttle too long and B-spec messed up, it is more intense, it's not like you sit and give a command each minute, nope, you need to be with it all the time.
Also not using R1 and press X, you can choose different tempo's/ drivestyle's
normal, a bit faster, or full throttle.
I thought i could use it for easy grinding, but i think i'm very wrong, unless you can enter a car that is much faster then the AI.

anyway, not at all, the same as GT5, more intense. I can't figure out now if i'm going to use it a lot.
Weekend is near so time will tell.
But i like today's update.

 

[Chunk88]

What a let down. Seriously. Wait over a year to get a b-spec that's about 1/4 as fun as GT5.

*yawn*

 

[Ares85]

I am disappointed with the new B-spec, I like the new methods of controlling the driver, but reading about the brand new b-spect, I was expecting the possibility of racing in online, and here it turns out that b-spect mode is only available in career mode and only in the same race that finished in three weeks after the release of the GT6, in my opinion, the b-spect update is useless because, in addition to the new control does not provide anything new to the game,
in gt4 and gt5 b-spect was definitely a better option than what we got with the new update.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I thought i could use it for easy grinding, but i think i'm very wrong, unless you can enter a car that is much faster then the AI.

You can easily use it to grid like the wind SSRX. I'm sure there are lots of cars that would do the trick there. I've been using the Mercedes VGT with max power and top speed set to 286 on RH tires. It wins easily every time with no babysitting beyond starting the race and collecting the credits. 140k credits with 200% login bonus. The downside is that the race lasts only a little over 4 minutes so you have to restart pretty often to take full advantage of it.

The 24 minute Nurburgring pays 600k and lasts almost 30 minutes. With the right car it could be won without babysitting

 

[DSkywalker01]

Now its more of a 'driver coaching' mode rather than a team-management mode... except for the driver never learns from your coaching. :/

 

[KWZX10]

Can't say i'm disappointed because i wasn't interested in it, but yeah it was better on gt5...
My real problem is that without real endurance, at least 4 h, it's simply pointless.

 

[kilesa4568]

Even though they've changed it significantly from GT5's B-Spec, where it was "set and forget", I like this version even more. Pseudo driving the bob with accelerate and brake commands and planning line changes for the overtakes is great for scything through the field. The real time controls are a game changer.

You can mess up their driving by over cooking the instructions instead of the slot car GT5 version and they can finally see the inside wall of the Nouvelle chicane when they're overtaking. Make a mistake with them elsewhere though and you'll see 18 point turns on runway size tracks, with several rams against the wall till they get it facing forwards. Oh well. Can't have everything.

One thing I noticed they can't do very well though is rallying. Bob is crap at that as the line is usually set for a sideways car covering 2 lanes with normal driving through the corners. He just drops a brain fart every time he gets sideways and slows right down.

I can't get to the console now but does anyone know if the micro transactions are still there? Not much point for them (unless you've got more money than sense) when there's a way to grind credits easily.

 

[breyzipp]

GT5 B-spec : give strategic commands to your driver once in a while, felt kinda realistic
GT6 B-spec : babysit your driver all the time stating the obvious, feels very unrealistic, it's more that you ARE the driver instead of commanding him

Needless to say from a gameplay point of view I really dislike GT6 B-spec compared to the GT5 version. But as an extra credits grinding machine it's very nice since I still miss a lot of cars I want to buy.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I tried B-spec on the redbull events.
i did one on a b-license, that was okay, just some minor commands and he( game uses my avatar) wins the race.
On the redbull it was very different and i learned about the functions.
It's like you sit beside him and can controll brake and throttle.
I hold the throttle too long and B-spec messed up, it is more intense, it's not like you sit and give a command each minute, nope, you need to be with it all the time.
Also not using R1 and press X, you can choose different tempo's/ drivestyle's
normal, a bit faster, or full throttle.
I thought i could use it for easy grinding, but i think i'm very wrong, unless you can enter a car that is much faster then the AI.

anyway, not at all, the same as GT5, more intense. I can't figure out now if i'm going to use it a lot.
Weekend is near so time will tell.
But i like today's update.

Perhaps you missed my post from earlier. Using the Pagani Huayra '13 at Route X in Like The Wind, you can win every time with no inputs whatsoever, except to start the race obviously. Race time is around 4'04.5xx this time around for me. Don't know how much more easier you want it. I am grinding it right now while eating dinner and watching TV and so far have farmed over a million credits this session.

 

[crooky369]

This B spec is rubbish but this pass Bob did into la source was like nothing I'd seen before from bashful Bob.



Even I wouldn't dive in for that one!

 

[breyzipp]

Playing Hearthstone on the PC with my PS3 controller next to me and Mr. Bob farming credits on my TV in the background from doing Like the Wind Route X over and over again. Not exactly what I had in mind for playing GT6 v1.16 on patch day but hey, it's a well working combination.

I sure hope starting next week we will see Mid-Field raceway in some seasonal events though...

 

[Johnnypenso]

This B spec is rubbish but this pass Bob did into la source was like nothing I'd seen before from bashful Bob.



Even I wouldn't dive in for that one!

Sort of illustrates how horrible and off pace the AI is that they can be overtaken from 100's of feet back entering a corner.

 

[Peter.]

Even though the mode doesn't have anywhere near the depth it had in GT5, nor does it have the convenience of GT4, I like where they're going with it, so long as this is just the beginning.

GT5's B-Spec, with GT6's level of control and GT4's ability to switch mid race, and the level of offline races where he would be sensible, would probably have been perfect, but what they have delivered is solid.

It really needed some new events to breathe some life into this game for people that aren't like myself who just purchased it last winter, however.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

All this time I wondered what the fuss/point of B-Spec is. Now it seems it's for if you can't be bothered to complete a dull race in career mode and want the computer to do it for you?

I just used it to win a race I couldn't be bothered to run in career mode, although I want to keep that to a minimum, as I actually got the game to play it!

 

[alex1369]

I tried one race, my bob won. But meh, id rather drive myself.
But thanks anyway PD

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I tried one race, my bob won. But meh, id rather drive myself.
But thanks anyway PD

My sentiments exactly. I heard people going on about wanting this feature (I haven't played GT since GT3)

Now it's arrived and I'm thinking, what's the point really? But I may use it for some of the truly dull races, but
I didn't buy the game to have the computer do it for me, might as well not buy it

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Bob is god at Karts. He just swept the Shifter Kart championship.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

This is basically how people will be driving to work in 10 years time . Get changed in the car
and have a snooze while Bob drives on the M25.

 

[alex1369]

Bob is god at Karts. He just swept the Shifter Kart championship.

Really??? Bob wins that hard shifter kart championship, specially GT arena???!!!!!

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Really??? Bob wins that hard shifter kart championship, specially GT arena???!!!!!

With ALOT of coaching, he'll literally force his way past his opponents to win.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

My sentiments exactly. I heard people going on about wanting this feature (I haven't played GT since GT3)

Now it's arrived and I'm thinking, what's the point really? But I may use it for some of the truly dull races, but
I didn't buy the game to have the computer do it for me, might as well not buy it

I don't think most people rely on Bob to do the race for them, more like letting Bob do the grinding when you have something else to do. It is a good way to add credits to your account.

 

[alex1369]

I did win the shifter races in very hard Aspec.
Just tried Bspec on GTarena and i cant belive it.
Bob took the lead with a lap to go!!!
Where was Bspec when we were struggling with the shifter karts, some are still struggling.
Bspec will help you win thos races you cant.
So Bspec is basicly for those who cant win those hard races?

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

This is basically how people will be driving to work in 10 years time . Get changed in the car
and have a snooze while Bob drives on the M25.

We're not too far from that now.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I don't think most people rely on Bob to do the race for them, more like letting Bob do the grinding when you have something else to do. It is a good way to add credits to your account.

Sure, although the Quick Matches and Seasonal Races pay out a hell of a lot more than most of the Career mode!

I guess the red bull things you can leave it to grind.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'm impressed by Bob. I did four races last evening. All I did was put him on the Push setting (not the top one, he spins out with that) and prodded the overtake button until in front. In the Tour of Europe and the 15 minute challenge I could leave him alone on the Own Pace setting once he was in the lead and he'd stay in front no problem.

Tour of Europe - Ascari using Ferrari California with no tuning. Easy Win.

Dirt Trials -Toscana - Bob can do rallying. That's new. Toyota Celica Rally car with no tune finished 2nd to the Group B Audi - Gave away a lot of PP in this one.

Ascari 10 Lap challenge - Nissan VGT. Finished 3rd. My fault. Bad Strategy calls on my part cost Bob the win.

Ascari 15 Minute race. Toyota TS030 with Praiano tune. Easy win for Bob even giving away a 50PP advantage.

 

[breyzipp]

Sure, although the Quick Matches and Seasonal Races pay out a hell of a lot more than most of the Career mode!

I guess the red bull things you can leave it to grind.

The point is not about what gives the highest payout, the point is that you can do other things while at the same time Bob grinds credits for you. In fact while I'm typing this he is doing exactly that. I'm in my apartment cleaning up a bit now and I can easily restart Bob every time he's done with his grinding lap.

Yesterday night I was playing Hearthstone for about 4-5 hours and at the same time Bob grinded about 6 mill credits for me. Sure that Route X race needs to be restarted every 4 minutes but Hearthstone leans perfect to that.

 

[TonyJZX]

given the right car, Bob smashes the competition

using the $1,8 mil. McLaren F1 GTR FINA Long Tail and using just the "push the pace" it anihilated everyone on the 15 min nurburgring challenge...

 

[Pseudopod]

Completely useless to me. Maybe useful for newcomers of GT6, not for aged players. Could have been fun to use in seasonals A-Spec races, but can't be used. Lame.

Well they are called a-spec events . I suspect future seasonal will include b-spec events too. In fact, I was a bit surprised to find that none were added for this batch of seasonals.

 

[TonyJZX]

i have a suspicion there will never be B-Spec seasonals

as far as i know theres no way to track the progress or experience of your Bob, i mean i'm not even sure if the Bob levels up

but B-Spec Seasonals worked in GT5 because it asked you to allocated one of your Bobs that you trained so therefore there was some satisfaction seeing your Bob race

Just picking up a random AI in B-Spec now? its not really the same

 

[gnorman]

Just done my first 3 races with Bob and left him to his own pace and he came 2nd on all 3 races. Should have won all 3 as the car was quick enough to win but he still can't overtake properly on his own if the car in front is close in pace. Not interested in sitting and telling him to overtake. I did sit and watch the timing screen on a race and found it mildly enjoyable to see him hunt down the cars in front and not have to watch his clumsy fumbling attempted overtakes.

The core problems are that the races are set up as chase the rabbit in career and thats not as much fun as proper racing anyway, and then when the races have already been golded in A-spec there really is no point. I have no interest in grinding as cash falls out of the sky in GT anyway so this B-spec adds nothing to an already weak a-spec career mode.

As much as I hoped for b-spec in Gt6 = Gt4 +gt5 + better ai + endurance it really is yet another missed opportunity by going in the opposite direction. There is a place for management aspects in a racing game, just like there is in sports games like Fifa, but Sony/pd seem intent on dumbing the game down rathing than making it more immersive and challenging.

I fear for the course maker and then GT7 when they arrive, such potential but will pd wake up and design it like we drive it.