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Patch Notes
Our next client update goes live to coincide with Battlefield 3: Armored Kill. As ususal, it contains a lot of balancing tweaks and fixes. Full details below. Let us know what you think about this update in the comments section below.
WEAPONS BALANCING
Reload timer adjustments
A number of weapons have had their reload timers adjusted to better fit their animations and gameplay balance. For most of these weapons the gameplay timers were slightly out of sync with the actual reload animation, meaning the player could either fire before the animation was done, or had to wait longer than the animation played. Primarily this is a cosmetic change (around 0.1sec); however for a few weapons (M416, F2000, FAMAS, KH2002, MK3A1, JNG90, MG36 QBU-88, SVD, Pecheneg, SCAR-H, AN-94) this should also improve the performance of the weapon. Full details below:
Short and Long reload reduced: SCAR-L, AEK-971, F2000, AN-94, AK-74, PP2000, G3A3, SKS, MG36, JNG-90, MK3A1, SCAR-H, SVD, QBZ-95B
Long reload reduced: AUG A3, 44 Magnum, KH2002, Pecheneg, L85A2, QBB-95, M1911, MP7
Short reload reduced: M417, FAMAS, M39 EBR, M416, PP-19, QBU-88
Short and long reload increased: ASVal
Long reload reduced, shot reload increased: M4A1
Long reload increased: P90
Damage output/range adjustments
UMP: Increased the close range damage of the UMP but reduced its damage over range. The UMP now has a sweet spot in CQB but suffers compared to the PP2000 at longer ranges.
PP2000: Increased the long range damage of the PP2000 to highlight its role as a mid-range, low recoil PDW.
M1911: Increased the minimum damage of the M1911 to make it fit better between the Magnums and the M9/MP443
M93: Reduced the M93Rs damage and range, as it was an obvious go to pistol compared to the M9/MP443. Its recoil has been reduced for a smoother burst action to counter the reduced damage.
12G Frag rounds: These rounds have been adjusted to do their damage in a smaller area but to be more consistently apply the maximum possible damage.
AA: Slightly increased the damage of the AA against infantry, the AA was simply over nerfed in a previous update. The AA guns now also properly do damage to MBTs again.
12 Gauge buckshot close range damage has been slightly increased.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
Increased bullet velocity for the coaxial HMG, making it easier to hit targets over longer ranges.
Increased the minimum range of the 40mm Flechette and tightened the cone of fire for more consistent damage levels.
Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
Increased the damage of the M5K.
A select set of weapons have had their recoil adjusted based on joint community feedback and statistical analysis to provide greater balance in the weapon choices players make. Specifically, the M16A3 and M4A1 have increased recoil to make them less attractive in all situations. Competing weapons like the SG553, G36C and M416 have been improved to also increase viable player choice in primary weapons.
SG553: Horizontal recoil reduced to help make this weapon more controllable.
MG36: Vertical recoil reduced to make this weapon more controllable.
M416: Vertical, Horizontal, and First Shot recoil have all been reduced to make this weapon clearly different from the M16A3.
M16A3: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
M4A1: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
G36C: Vertical and First Shot recoil amounts reduced.
M16A4 and M4: These weapons have been adjusted for the increased recoil they now have. The burst versions of these weapons give the player a reduction in horizontal recoil for greater control.
Miscellaneous weapons changes
FIM92 and IGLA now lock on to air vehicles at both lower altitudes and longer distances.
Added Burst Fire to the M5K as an available fire mode.
Increased the bonuses provided by a number of bipods: F2000, G3A3, M27, M416, Pecheneg, Type88, FAMAS, MG36
Belt Fed Machine guns are now more accurate when standing and firing while aiming. This affects the M240, M249, Type88, Pecheneg, and LSAT.
44 Magnum: Rate of fire reduced slightly to highlight this side arms role as a slow firing heavy hitter and differentiate it from the MP412 REX.
Increased the fire rate and reload time of the MP412 REX to better highlight the improved CQB performance over the 44 Magnum.
Removed burst fire from the L85 and added Single Shot to the L86 as is authentic for these weapons.
Slightly increased the radius for maximum damage of the 40mm LVG. While the overall damage level remains the same, the LVG will be lethal over a larger area.
Reduced the aimed accuracy bonus of the M417 with a suppressor to balance it with the other weapons in the game.
Increased the aimed accuracy bonus of the ACW-R, L86 LSW, LSAT, MP5K and MTAR with a suppressor to balance with the other weapons in the game.
Weapons fixes
Underslung weapons on the AUG and SCAR-L now properly benefit from the hip accuracy bonus of an attached laser sight.
The SOFLAM will no longer lock onto your own vehicle if deployed and not immediately activated by the player.
SCAR-L: Fixed the heavy barrel not increasing recoil when zoomed and standing.
Corrected some incorrect descriptions of clip sizes and bullet types for weapons added in Close Quarters: M5K, LSAT, and ACW-R
The PKS-07 is now available on QBB-95
The M417s foregrip was incorrectly reducing horizontal recoil by too large an amount. It has been adjusted to be balanced with other foregrips.
The ACR Foregrip, MG36, QBB-95 and RPK Extended magazines as well as the RPK and SKS Heavy Barrel are now able to be unlocked and equipped in the accessory screen.
Fixed an issue with incorrect damage for the M320 buck when used with certain attachments.
MK3A1 now uses flechette rounds instead of Frag rounds in Gun Master mode (in Close Quarters).
VEHICLE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Removed flares from gunner position in helicopters. With the right combination of unlocks, an attack helicopter could be effectively invulnerable to lock on missiles. Removing the flares from the gunner balances the attack helicopter against ground fire.
Air Radar now shows friendly vehicles as well.
Helicopter weapons can now destroy equipment with splash damage.
The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopters Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.
Repair tool damage against enemy vehicles lowered by 10%.
Changed reload behavior on Tank / Tank Destroyer cannon weapons to prevent being able to fire 2 shots from different weapons quickly one right after another.
Firing mode can now be seen from the vehicle passenger seats where you are allowed to fire your own weapons.
Fixed the hit indicator showing when entering a vehicle after previously shooting a soldier.
Increased the damage helicopter and jet rockets do to helicopters, jets and infantry.
Increased the damage helicopter gunners and IFVs do to helicopters and jets.
Fixed Jets not getting top attack damage bonuses on Laser Designated targets.
PERSISTENCE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Changed how MCOM station defend/attack kill score is calculated. Victim no longer needs to arm/disarm the crate but rather be in a 5 meter radius of the crate. Also increased kills needed for the Crate Defend Ribbon from 2 to 4. Overall, these changes should make it somewhat easier to get the ribbon, while increasing the opportunity for strategic play around MCOM stations.
Premium Engineer assignments are now counting all shotgun kills independent from the class using it.
Fixed so you can get score from awards in coop.
Accuracy dogtags now show the correct stats.
Coop Stars and dogtag are now properly unlockable and equip able.
Gun Master and Domination Winner ribbons and medals added.
Fix for assignment with multiple dependencies showing as unlocked in frontend. (Jack of All Trades & Only for the Dedicated)
UI RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Added letters to the capture point icons displayed directly over the mini-map.
Fixed the grenade counter acting strangely when entering a vehicle with a grenade in hand.
Fixed the damage indicator which showed the wrong direction if the damage dealer was dead.
Fixed the hit indicator showing when spawning or closing the in game menu.
PC specific: Fixed laser designator related icons disappearing from the screen when you enable the chat.
Fixed a bug where the clan tag sometimes shows as the player ID.
Added clan tags in nametags and kill card.
PC specific: Fixed the vehicle hit indicator being shown each time you re-enter the first person camera of a ground vehicle.
Fixed so commorose VO works when sitting in an AA vehicle.
Fixed so you get the critical health fullscreen color tint while in the post revive state.
Removed the join button in the server list for non-Premium users on Premium exclusive servers.
Fixed so the spawn menu always disappears when you are revived.
Bugfix the colorblind objectives showing the wrong icons and blinking with a black background.
Fixed M-Com distance not updating if user moves towards it with EOD Bot.
Mortar strike explosions are now shown on the HUD for the shooter.
MISCELLANEOUS TWEAKS & FIXES
Fixed so the MAV gadget will not remain floating in midair if the user exits it while still flying.
Fixed bug where it was possible to shoot while transitioning from sprint into prone.
Fixed so you cant revive a player who switched team since he died.
Fixed two exploits on Donya Fortress that allowed players to get on top of the level.
Fixed bug where you could get an incorrectly calculated longest headshot with the EOD bot.
PS3/Xbox 360 specific: Added map rotation settings to preset list in detailed server info. Players can now see all relevant settings that are being run on the server.
Xbox 360 specific: Introduced a clickable promotional spot on the main menu.
How to download the latest update (Multiplayer Update 4) and Armored Kill
PLAYSTATION 3 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 4 for Premium members / September 18 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.53GB
Armored Kill size: 1.55GB
How to download patch: When starting the game, the patch will automatically download. It is mandatory to accept this download if you want to play the game.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available on the PlayStation Store and in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost.
XBOX 360 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.44GB
Armored Kill size: 1.56GB
How to download patch: There will first be a small (184MB) Title Update automatically downloaded when you start the game. When restarting the game, you will get a popup notifying you that Multiplayer Update 4 is available. It is not mandatory to accept this, but we advise you to do so. Otherwise, you can find Multiplayer Update 4 both on Xbox Live Marketplace and in our in-game store as a manual download.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost. If you are not a Premium member, you can also find Armored Kill on Xbox Live Marketplace.
PC SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Patch size: ~2.2GB
Armored Kill size: 3.2GB
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
How to download patch: As soon as you start your Origin client, the latest game update will automatically start downloading (unless youve disabled the option Automatically keep my games up to date, in which case it will start downloading when you try to run the game). In Battlelog, you will be notified from the Game Manager. Once you acknowledge the update, it will start downloading within the Origin client.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill will automatically download if you start Origin or if you are logged in to Battlelog. You can also start the download from the Battlefield 3 game details page (i symbol) if Origin is already running.
Our next client update goes live to coincide with Battlefield 3: Armored Kill. As ususal, it contains a lot of balancing tweaks and fixes. Full details below. Let us know what you think about this update in the comments section below.
WEAPONS BALANCING
Reload timer adjustments
A number of weapons have had their reload timers adjusted to better fit their animations and gameplay balance. For most of these weapons the gameplay timers were slightly out of sync with the actual reload animation, meaning the player could either fire before the animation was done, or had to wait longer than the animation played. Primarily this is a cosmetic change (around 0.1sec); however for a few weapons (M416, F2000, FAMAS, KH2002, MK3A1, JNG90, MG36 QBU-88, SVD, Pecheneg, SCAR-H, AN-94) this should also improve the performance of the weapon. Full details below:
Short and Long reload reduced: SCAR-L, AEK-971, F2000, AN-94, AK-74, PP2000, G3A3, SKS, MG36, JNG-90, MK3A1, SCAR-H, SVD, QBZ-95B
Long reload reduced: AUG A3, 44 Magnum, KH2002, Pecheneg, L85A2, QBB-95, M1911, MP7
Short reload reduced: M417, FAMAS, M39 EBR, M416, PP-19, QBU-88
Short and long reload increased: ASVal
Long reload reduced, shot reload increased: M4A1
Long reload increased: P90
Damage output/range adjustments
UMP: Increased the close range damage of the UMP but reduced its damage over range. The UMP now has a sweet spot in CQB but suffers compared to the PP2000 at longer ranges.
PP2000: Increased the long range damage of the PP2000 to highlight its role as a mid-range, low recoil PDW.
M1911: Increased the minimum damage of the M1911 to make it fit better between the Magnums and the M9/MP443
M93: Reduced the M93Rs damage and range, as it was an obvious go to pistol compared to the M9/MP443. Its recoil has been reduced for a smoother burst action to counter the reduced damage.
12G Frag rounds: These rounds have been adjusted to do their damage in a smaller area but to be more consistently apply the maximum possible damage.
AA: Slightly increased the damage of the AA against infantry, the AA was simply over nerfed in a previous update. The AA guns now also properly do damage to MBTs again.
12 Gauge buckshot close range damage has been slightly increased.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
Increased bullet velocity for the coaxial HMG, making it easier to hit targets over longer ranges.
Increased the minimum range of the 40mm Flechette and tightened the cone of fire for more consistent damage levels.
Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on the SCAR-H.
Slightly reduced the range penalty for the suppressor on 5.56mm, 5.45mm, and 6.5mm weapons: AR, Carbine, and LMG.
Slightly reduced the range bonus added by the heavy barrel on the 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 6.5mm Assault Rifles.
Increased the damage of the M5K.
A select set of weapons have had their recoil adjusted based on joint community feedback and statistical analysis to provide greater balance in the weapon choices players make. Specifically, the M16A3 and M4A1 have increased recoil to make them less attractive in all situations. Competing weapons like the SG553, G36C and M416 have been improved to also increase viable player choice in primary weapons.
SG553: Horizontal recoil reduced to help make this weapon more controllable.
MG36: Vertical recoil reduced to make this weapon more controllable.
M416: Vertical, Horizontal, and First Shot recoil have all been reduced to make this weapon clearly different from the M16A3.
M16A3: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
M4A1: Recoil amounts slightly increased.
G36C: Vertical and First Shot recoil amounts reduced.
M16A4 and M4: These weapons have been adjusted for the increased recoil they now have. The burst versions of these weapons give the player a reduction in horizontal recoil for greater control.
Miscellaneous weapons changes
FIM92 and IGLA now lock on to air vehicles at both lower altitudes and longer distances.
Added Burst Fire to the M5K as an available fire mode.
Increased the bonuses provided by a number of bipods: F2000, G3A3, M27, M416, Pecheneg, Type88, FAMAS, MG36
Belt Fed Machine guns are now more accurate when standing and firing while aiming. This affects the M240, M249, Type88, Pecheneg, and LSAT.
44 Magnum: Rate of fire reduced slightly to highlight this side arms role as a slow firing heavy hitter and differentiate it from the MP412 REX.
Increased the fire rate and reload time of the MP412 REX to better highlight the improved CQB performance over the 44 Magnum.
Removed burst fire from the L85 and added Single Shot to the L86 as is authentic for these weapons.
Slightly increased the radius for maximum damage of the 40mm LVG. While the overall damage level remains the same, the LVG will be lethal over a larger area.
Reduced the aimed accuracy bonus of the M417 with a suppressor to balance it with the other weapons in the game.
Increased the aimed accuracy bonus of the ACW-R, L86 LSW, LSAT, MP5K and MTAR with a suppressor to balance with the other weapons in the game.
Weapons fixes
Underslung weapons on the AUG and SCAR-L now properly benefit from the hip accuracy bonus of an attached laser sight.
The SOFLAM will no longer lock onto your own vehicle if deployed and not immediately activated by the player.
SCAR-L: Fixed the heavy barrel not increasing recoil when zoomed and standing.
Corrected some incorrect descriptions of clip sizes and bullet types for weapons added in Close Quarters: M5K, LSAT, and ACW-R
The PKS-07 is now available on QBB-95
The M417s foregrip was incorrectly reducing horizontal recoil by too large an amount. It has been adjusted to be balanced with other foregrips.
The ACR Foregrip, MG36, QBB-95 and RPK Extended magazines as well as the RPK and SKS Heavy Barrel are now able to be unlocked and equipped in the accessory screen.
Fixed an issue with incorrect damage for the M320 buck when used with certain attachments.
MK3A1 now uses flechette rounds instead of Frag rounds in Gun Master mode (in Close Quarters).
VEHICLE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Removed flares from gunner position in helicopters. With the right combination of unlocks, an attack helicopter could be effectively invulnerable to lock on missiles. Removing the flares from the gunner balances the attack helicopter against ground fire.
Air Radar now shows friendly vehicles as well.
Helicopter weapons can now destroy equipment with splash damage.
The Laser Designator unlock on the Scout Helicopters has been changed from a Pilot Upgrade to a new stance in the Copilot seat (position 4). Like the CITV turret on the Main Battle Tanks, the Scout Helicopters Laser Designator is permanently available to players who have received the unlock.
Repair tool damage against enemy vehicles lowered by 10%.
Changed reload behavior on Tank / Tank Destroyer cannon weapons to prevent being able to fire 2 shots from different weapons quickly one right after another.
Firing mode can now be seen from the vehicle passenger seats where you are allowed to fire your own weapons.
Fixed the hit indicator showing when entering a vehicle after previously shooting a soldier.
Increased the damage helicopter and jet rockets do to helicopters, jets and infantry.
Increased the damage helicopter gunners and IFVs do to helicopters and jets.
Fixed Jets not getting top attack damage bonuses on Laser Designated targets.
PERSISTENCE RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Changed how MCOM station defend/attack kill score is calculated. Victim no longer needs to arm/disarm the crate but rather be in a 5 meter radius of the crate. Also increased kills needed for the Crate Defend Ribbon from 2 to 4. Overall, these changes should make it somewhat easier to get the ribbon, while increasing the opportunity for strategic play around MCOM stations.
Premium Engineer assignments are now counting all shotgun kills independent from the class using it.
Fixed so you can get score from awards in coop.
Accuracy dogtags now show the correct stats.
Coop Stars and dogtag are now properly unlockable and equip able.
Gun Master and Domination Winner ribbons and medals added.
Fix for assignment with multiple dependencies showing as unlocked in frontend. (Jack of All Trades & Only for the Dedicated)
UI RELATED TWEAKS & FIXES
Added letters to the capture point icons displayed directly over the mini-map.
Fixed the grenade counter acting strangely when entering a vehicle with a grenade in hand.
Fixed the damage indicator which showed the wrong direction if the damage dealer was dead.
Fixed the hit indicator showing when spawning or closing the in game menu.
PC specific: Fixed laser designator related icons disappearing from the screen when you enable the chat.
Fixed a bug where the clan tag sometimes shows as the player ID.
Added clan tags in nametags and kill card.
PC specific: Fixed the vehicle hit indicator being shown each time you re-enter the first person camera of a ground vehicle.
Fixed so commorose VO works when sitting in an AA vehicle.
Fixed so you get the critical health fullscreen color tint while in the post revive state.
Removed the join button in the server list for non-Premium users on Premium exclusive servers.
Fixed so the spawn menu always disappears when you are revived.
Bugfix the colorblind objectives showing the wrong icons and blinking with a black background.
Fixed M-Com distance not updating if user moves towards it with EOD Bot.
Mortar strike explosions are now shown on the HUD for the shooter.
MISCELLANEOUS TWEAKS & FIXES
Fixed so the MAV gadget will not remain floating in midair if the user exits it while still flying.
Fixed bug where it was possible to shoot while transitioning from sprint into prone.
Fixed so you cant revive a player who switched team since he died.
Fixed two exploits on Donya Fortress that allowed players to get on top of the level.
Fixed bug where you could get an incorrectly calculated longest headshot with the EOD bot.
PS3/Xbox 360 specific: Added map rotation settings to preset list in detailed server info. Players can now see all relevant settings that are being run on the server.
Xbox 360 specific: Introduced a clickable promotional spot on the main menu.
How to download the latest update (Multiplayer Update 4) and Armored Kill
PLAYSTATION 3 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 4 for Premium members / September 18 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.53GB
Armored Kill size: 1.55GB
How to download patch: When starting the game, the patch will automatically download. It is mandatory to accept this download if you want to play the game.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available on the PlayStation Store and in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost.
XBOX 360 SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
Patch size: 1.44GB
Armored Kill size: 1.56GB
How to download patch: There will first be a small (184MB) Title Update automatically downloaded when you start the game. When restarting the game, you will get a popup notifying you that Multiplayer Update 4 is available. It is not mandatory to accept this, but we advise you to do so. Otherwise, you can find Multiplayer Update 4 both on Xbox Live Marketplace and in our in-game store as a manual download.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill is available in our in-game store as a manual download. If you are a Premium member, this download will be available at 0 cost. If you are not a Premium member, you can also find Armored Kill on Xbox Live Marketplace.
PC SPECIFIC INFO
Patch goes live: September 4
Patch size: ~2.2GB
Armored Kill size: 3.2GB
Armored Kill goes live: September 11 for Premium members / September 25 for non-Premiums
How to download patch: As soon as you start your Origin client, the latest game update will automatically start downloading (unless youve disabled the option Automatically keep my games up to date, in which case it will start downloading when you try to run the game). In Battlelog, you will be notified from the Game Manager. Once you acknowledge the update, it will start downloading within the Origin client.
How to download Armored Kill: Armored Kill will automatically download if you start Origin or if you are logged in to Battlelog. You can also start the download from the Battlefield 3 game details page (i symbol) if Origin is already running.
- 9,187
- United Kingdom
- neema_t
Slashfan
Which revive glitch, spawn menu, inability to revive people sometimes or something else? The spawn menu one is in and that's the only one I personally care about, had that happen three times in one game once, it was a bit much.
Also, forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I read that the range penalty and bonus for Heavy Barrel on most of the ARs were reduced... Which is it? Or did I misread 'accuracy' as 'range'? I'm confused.
- 1,037
- New Jersey
- Rektxngle
- iMikeTheKing
I'm slowly running out of hard drive space for my Xbox. These updates are huge and people like me that have Xbox's that are 4 years old have to delete games to allow these updates.
- 4,165
- United States
Yeah, with this I'm done with Battlefield. The Patches just use too much memory. I don't even have Premium so why do I have to download the maps also ?
- 2,583
- Kelowna, Canada
- Antonisbob
- No...
Thanks for the patch notes. I'm looking forward for Armored Kill tomorrow! 
- 603
- Poland
- mr_geez
1. Spawn menu glitch can be countered by pressing START button twice. After that everything will be back to normal.
2. Heavy barrel was bit OP (in fact I think that accessory turned into old foregrip, almost no downside to it). Patch won't decrease accuracy bonus while aiming down the sights, but it will slightly decrease max damage that was sustained on longer distances.
Overall, I like those patch notes. Buffed stingers (they were useless against any semi-decent pilot) , took out laser from scout heli pilot (it will make z11 vs little bird battles way more interesting) , nerfed m16 (at last some diversity in opponents medic loadouts), took out flares from chooper gunner (no more Kharg Rush "always on attack team 1337 viper whores" boosting their kill streaks).
- 15,494
- UK
Because 20MB is tiny (relatively), whilst space is a factor you'd find that the majority of users either now have the 250GB models or have updated their HDD, 60/80GB is so outdated, I really should update mine, but that would require not being lazy.
Patching has various stages of testing and Sony/Microsoft approval that takes time. Most people don't want to have to update games frequently and if you're producing CD's with the latest version it's a pain if you're updating once a month. Small and regular patches is fine for some devs, but there are a lot of processes involved with console development that just don't suit what you're asking for.
Interesting changes, the Igla/Stinger changes look good and I'm glad Scout Heli now means you need a co-ordinated team to be effective. Not sure on removing flares from the gunner on helis, mind you, they rarely seem to work anyway! Though when Vexd and I are on the receiving end of being taken down within a minute in the chopper, it's mainly because jet pilots don't often do their job.
Week away from it due to dead router, but should be back up tonight. 👍
- 2,540
- Caerphilly, SW
- [-_-]MILO[-_-]
- RYAN-31
👍
- 2,239
- caswellhouse
Is there really a negative conversation going on about this game still bring worked on and improved 11 months after its release?
1 Big update or a whole bunch of little ones. Still would be taking up the same amount of hd space.
Slower internet speeds have a valid point tho.
My big issue with this patch is it looks like smaller splash radius on grenades. Oh and no AA gun on canals.
But wasnt a scout chopper added into (?) Sharqi (?) without being mentioned in the patch notes.
I do like the new role the jump seat in scout choppers works now. (Will work). But i think removing flares from gunner in attack is wrong. The only thing this balances is the lack of pilots who can properly take out a good enemy chopper.
Myself included. I think i have like 17 jet kills. I cant shoot and fly at the same time. Soo, i stay out of jets.
1 Big update or a whole bunch of little ones. Still would be taking up the same amount of hd space.
Slower internet speeds have a valid point tho.
My big issue with this patch is it looks like smaller splash radius on grenades. Oh and no AA gun on canals.
But wasnt a scout chopper added into (?) Sharqi (?) without being mentioned in the patch notes.
I do like the new role the jump seat in scout choppers works now. (Will work). But i think removing flares from gunner in attack is wrong. The only thing this balances is the lack of pilots who can properly take out a good enemy chopper.
Myself included. I think i have like 17 jet kills. I cant shoot and fly at the same time. Soo, i stay out of jets.
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- 9,187
- United Kingdom
- neema_t
Caz
Not to mention that small updates for GT5 are the worst thing ever and if we ever got anything like a 1GB patch a lot of people here would be over the bloody moon! I can appreciate lots of small patches being unattractive to publishers seeing as MS and Sony charge per patch and the game isn't unplayable without them, so one large patch is fine by me... Then again I don't have HDD space concerns. No, wait, yes I do! My copy is on a 128GB SSD. My PS3's hard drive is bigger than that.
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- Down under
- 1,037
- New Jersey
- Rektxngle
- iMikeTheKing
I just made some space for AK and any game I want to install to my hard drive. I just deleted anything I have not played/use this summer. I now have 22.6 GB of hard drive space left on my Xbox. I hope AK is good or at least enough to hold me back for one month until MoH: Warfighter comes out.
- 13,827
- Down under
I just noticed - SKS gets a heavy barrel now....which is a bit weird for a rifle.
- 3,626
- Sydney
- Gai-Gun
" Increased the bonuses provided by a number of bipods: F2000, G3A3, M27, M416, Pecheneg, Type88, FAMAS, MG36"
A bipod bonus? for my top weapon? Oh, DICE, you shouldn't have.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Gai-Gun/weapons/352878268/ps3/
A bipod bonus? for my top weapon? Oh, DICE, you shouldn't have.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Gai-Gun/weapons/352878268/ps3/
- 3,279
- UK
- GTP_VEXD
Ok, so this means I carry flares in the pilot's seat, and my gunner has ECM?
Or can a gunner not have ECM?
Hmmmm......
Worst news for me (apart from having to wait another two weex to play in moar tanx and schtuff) is that they have made no mention of FIXING THE SOUND.
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Or can a gunner not have ECM?
Hmmmm......
Worst news for me (apart from having to wait another two weex to play in moar tanx and schtuff) is that they have made no mention of FIXING THE SOUND.
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Drag and I had some M417 gun-offs earlier, it's a good gun, I'm still struggling to pick it up quite like I did with the SKS.
M417 is so great, get a bipod on it if you don't already and you can put down some serious damage with the 20 round mag. I initially used it with a suppressor when I first could with alot of success, but I tried out the laser with good results tonight so when I got caught up close I could just spew out rounds and not worry so much about suppression as you don't need many hits to drop a guy.
I love posting up with it overlooking objectives and just causing havoc to enemy squads trying to capture and supporting the squad, I think I'll be using it alot lately and getting back in to Recon as the M417 gives you so much more versatility to run in the thick of the action with your squadmates where the SKS sometimes lacks a bit of punch and feels weak up close and needing the extra hit can often be the end. I still prefer my Mk11 if I plan to sit further back, but I always find when it comes to capturing flags sometimes I have to do it myself when the others are busy dealing with other problems and I want to sneak on a far flag to drag enemies away and heavy zoom optics just aren't useful then.
I'm thinking of trying to find myself someone to play spotter/Recon with me consistently, we tend to often have full squads plus extra and I feel bad leaving people who aren't on Skype to fend for themselves as they're missing out on a large part of what keeps me entertained. If I can get myself a spotter (on Skype) I could leave the squad with those I'm already talking to and let someone else fill my slot whilst myself and partner do our own thing whilst remaining in communication with the rest at all times, without dealing with BF Voip, disconnects and so on which is ultimately why Skype is far superior. Also allows the use of a SOFLAM whilst not sacrificing the ever useful T-UGS/MAV and a combination of rifles, battle rifle with 4x max plus a DMR with 7/8x (bolty users may as well work solo they have to stay so far back). I've always wanted to run a true 2 man Recon team and support other players effectively.
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