Best Car/Tips for new Tokyo Expressway WTC600 race

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29 mins wasted. Finished 14th. It can't be this hard, surely? :mad:
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Hmm, so you're about 7-8 seconds a lap slower than me? Just to start with the basics, are you using a wheel or controller? If controller, do you have it on max sensitivity, and do you have the stick fully moved to the side while cornering? Sorry if that sounds very basic, but the basic idea is you need to be on the limit of grip throughout each corner, which means having the stick fully moved, and using your speed/throttle to control your line, so you brake or lift off to tighten your line, or accelerate to widen your line. If you have any way to record yourself doing it, and can put it on YouTube, I'm happy to have a look to try to help you go faster (and others on here will be happy to try to help, too).
 
AI difficulty on hard.

Used the Lamborghini Huracan fully tuned (all parts in it, aside from NOS which is restricted and also only with a wing, no extra body parts).
Used Sports hards (you don't even need to change tyres in this race) and had about 455hp, full ballast, and some tweaks on the gears and suspension so I could have the HP as reasonably high as I could because the main straight is where the AI gets most of it's laptime, in particular the NSX and the GT-R which easily pass 300kph. I was doing ~290kph on the main straight and had the downforce on the wing on maximum downforce mode. The AI would get about 2 seconds of my time in the straight but I would easily cover that up and more everywhere else.

Only did one pit stop at the end of lap 10 so I could get the fastest lap, still made one mistake on the final corner before the straight, went very deep since I had fuel economy at 1 in the last lap and forgot that I had to break earlier since I was going faster. Still did a 2:11.6.

I could've easily avoided pitting all together if I had kept the fuel economy on 6 all the way and while doing some short shifting and lifting. Would've probably beaten the AI by over 30 seconds.

My lap times from 2nd to 9th lap were all between 2:12 and 2:13 with fuel economy on 6 (I had at 2 and later in 1 in lap 1 to do some overtaking faster and get clear of the traffic).

The NSX, which is going to be the hardest AI, does 2 pit stops... So he's not a threat. The fastest lap of the AI (NSX) was 2:11.8 on the 2nd lap after he did his first pitstop.

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Le Mans and Sardegna are way too easy... Any car with the required 700 and 800 pp would destroy in those two races.
 
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AI on Easy with AMG GT-R stock -- only racing suspesion, no wing... :D (I don't like wings on sport cars). With music. :lol:

27 minutes, clean race, 800K+... By the way, what a race! what a vibe! (my second song was '5oul On Display') ;)

Map 4 before pits, after Map 3. Hard Tires.

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I won this with the Nissan Skyline R34 using @praiano63 's 600 PP tune. Sport Hard tires. Used fuel map 1 and short shifted on the main straight and fuel map 2 for the rest of the track. Pitted on lap 6. Simple and straightforward race.


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Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
I cant get this to work, my pp only gets a “!” When i do these settings
 
Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
Thank you for the tune. It's time to meme our way to 100m credits!

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Hmm, so you're about 7-8 seconds a lap slower than me? Just to start with the basics, are you using a wheel or controller? If controller, do you have it on max sensitivity, and do you have the stick fully moved to the side while cornering? Sorry if that sounds very basic, but the basic idea is you need to be on the limit of grip throughout each corner, which means having the stick fully moved, and using your speed/throttle to control your line, so you brake or lift off to tighten your line, or accelerate to widen your line. If you have any way to record yourself doing it, and can put it on YouTube, I'm happy to have a look to try to help you go faster (and others on here will be happy to try to help, too).
Thanks mate but I think I'll do the 5 lap World Circuit Championship, 50min-1hour = 1mill credits exactly will do for me...for now.
 
Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
Might give this setup a go..
 
I cant get this to work, my pp only gets a “!” When i do these settings
I'm in the same boat. My settings look exactly like the photos but the pp is still way too high. Does someone have a video explaining how to set this up?
 


Best race I've ever done with the AI in GT7, this race was so fun.
had around 30 sec lead by the end. Unfortunately I can't give out settings for my RX-7, sorry.
 
I'm in the same boat. My settings look exactly like the photos but the pp is still way too high. Does someone have a video explaining how to set this up?
once i switched to sport medium tires it suddenly worked for me and made the car sub 500pp. about to start my second run, i won by 2 laps but kept hitting the walls and still got CRB lol
 
AI difficulty on hard.

Used the Lamborghini Huracan fully tuned (all parts in it, aside from NOS which is restricted and also only with a wing, no extra body parts).
Used Sports hards (you don't even need to change tyres in this race) and had about 455hp, full ballast, and some tweaks on the gears and suspension so I could have the HP as reasonably high as I could because the main straight is where the AI gets most of it's laptime, in particular the NSX and the GT-R which easily pass 300kph. I was doing ~290kph on the main straight and had the downforce on the wing on maximum downforce mode. The AI would get about 2 seconds of my time in the straight but I would easily cover that up and more everywhere else.

Only did one pit stop at the end of lap 10 so I could get the fastest lap, still made one mistake on the final corner before the straight, went very deep since I had fuel economy at 1 in the last lap and forgot that I had to break earlier since I was going faster. Still did a 2:11.6.

I could've easily avoided pitting all together if I had kept the fuel economy on 6 all the way and while doing some short shifting and lifting. Would've probably beaten the AI by over 30 seconds.

My lap times from 2nd to 9th lap were all between 2:12 and 2:13 with fuel economy on 6 (I had at 2 and later in 1 in lap 1 to do some overtaking faster and get clear of the traffic).

The NSX, which is going to be the hardest AI, does 2 pit stops... So he's not a threat. The fastest lap of the AI (NSX) was 2:11.8 on the 2nd lap after he did his first pitstop.

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Le Mans and Sardegna are way too easy... Any car with the required 700 and 800 pp would destroy in those two races.
I too did this. not the same setup but close. I have won 2 races without pitting. I ran on fuel map 4 or 5.
 
For people looking for non-exploit cars/tunes, I have a new fastest car for this, the Aston Martin DP-100 VGT with SH tyres. Did 26:54 race time, fastest lap 2:09.0, and that's no stop pace, no fuel saving at all is needed. Even with TC 1 it needs a lot more care than the Huracan, but once you get used to it, it's actually a joy to drive, as the back end slides a bit, but in an easily controlled way.

The game is so much better now we are getting the credits from playing it to be able to try more cars out.
Thanks so much man!! You are right, very nice car to drive. Needed to pit 10th lap in.
 

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Thanks so much man!! You are right, very nice car to drive. Needed to pit 10th lap in.
I realised I forgot to mention that if you look at the power curve, you want to shift at around 6500rpm. If you use a view from the car that shows rpm, you'll see that 6500rpm is before you get any red at all on the bar. So basically you need to get used to the engine pitch at 6500rpm and shift at that pitch, or it won't matter too much if you shift as soon as you see red on the bar. I'm guessing you were letting the bar fill with red and that's why you ran out of fuel, and it's also actually slower than shifting earlier, due to how the power drops past 6500rpm.
 
Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
Any chance this will work for the S?
 
The World Touring Car 800 Sardegna Road Track A 15 laps($485K) is the best Cr. farm imo, as it's clear skies from start to finish, and with the CLK-LM it's an easy guaranteed win, with about 40-50 odd seconds ahead of 2nd place. I find fm 4 to be the sweet spot without making too many pit stops.
I've been using the Tomahawk S, no stops. Only into the 26 mins as I'm not very good. But seen people down to 22 I think.
 
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After about 8 tries with several different cars, I finally managed to win by a little over 15 seconds (Would have been more if it weren't for the dumb penalties I took) with the R35 that you get from the café.
Detuned the power and added a little ballast, plus a well set up suspension and differential ended up being enough. The straight line speed of the R35 was so much better than all of the other cars I had tried, which was probably the key to winning, honestly. Those front three AI have some serious power behind their cars.
Due to it not being listed as a 'chili pepper race', it really caught me off guard as I was expecting it to be a breeze like all the other non-chili events. It was the first and only World Circuit event I have struggled with so far, so I'm not surprised that so many are having a hard time with it.
I'm also a controller user and probably not quite as fast as the drivers giving tips in this thread, but it's still far from impossible. It really tests your patience and your ability to manage tires and fuel.
 
Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
This is an amazing build. I added some better quality photos and shared this on Reddit with a link to your original post.
 

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Seems I recreated it from your description, looks like the mechanism is that (automatic) transmission would got confused and downshifts back to 2nd gear as soon as it shifted into 3rd gear. I changed to manual transmission during race ...

Other gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?)

Edit: Use 9.619 / 9.185 / 8.663 for Sport Soft / Race Intermediate which should much easier to control on first half of race where the surface is wet. The PP of SS/IM are the same but somehow for me SS can survive entire race with some remaining, IM would wore out after ~10 laps. Didn't want to promote exploiting but we can take the chance for some experiment.
LOL. How is this even possible. :lol:

@ND4SPD @NickGuy | I had the same issue. Try to make a new setting sheet and start from scratch. Start with the racing hard tires and move your way down. It worked for me afterwards.
 
This Tomahawk exploit is so silly. I will never have to play another event again (until Polyphony fixes this). Thanks!
 
This is an amazing build. I added some better quality photos and shared this on Reddit with a link to your original post.
I can’t get the 9.xxxx gear ratios . Highest my first gear will go is 7.xxxx
What am I doing wrong?
 

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This Tomahawk exploit is so silly. I will never have to play another event again (until Polyphony fixes this). Thanks!
I just realized that you can also use that specific Tomahawk build in the Deep Forest Endurance...
I can’t get the 9.xxxx gear ratios . Highest my first gear will go is 7.xxxx
What am I doing wrong?
You need to adjust de gear ratios as @tiberiusteng said earlier in his post.

'' The gear ratios won't keep constant when you adjusting so just repeatedly fiddle with them and press triangle until it's under 600 (?) ''
 
Tried lots of different cars and nothing is working. I just can’t drive the car in this conditions. I keep hitting the walls. Anyone has a car/setup that will actually grip or is this just how it goes?
 
Question for those using the Tomahawk X “Special Time Attack on wet track with obstacles for free credits” : What’s your average lap time? I’m running 1:29 on average, just want to compare times 😄
 
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Question for those using the Tomahawk X “Special Time Attack on wet track with obstacles for free credits” : What’s your average lap time? I’m running 1:29 on average, just want to compare times 😄
Damn. I don’t want to buy the Tomahawk but I just might. How much does it cost? 1mil?
 
Question for those using the Tomahawk X “Special Time Attack on wet track with obstacles for free credits” : What’s your average lap time? I’m running 1:29 on average, just want to compare times 😄
My best has been 1:13 but i average around 1:14-1:17 on a good day. However with the "slow" cars coming in your way it's easy to bump into them or a barrier resulting in the penalty and mechanical damage.My advice: grind till Polyphony fixes it! My Tomahawk X has been driven around 1400km already thanks to this race😁
 
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