"Blue Devil" News: Test Details Roll In
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Okay, if we are going to talk Porsche in a Corvette thread, I suggest we start throwing crap around with the Z06 vs Turbo vs GT3.
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Z06 should have an easy time keeping up with the two of them, but I think the Porsches have offered the greatest threat to the Z06 since it's debut. The Turbo would most likely win in a flat-out sprint, but around the track, it is a tough call to make. The same can be said of the GT3, which although fast, it doesn't have the horsepower numbers like the others.
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Z06 should have an easy time keeping up with the two of them, but I think the Porsches have offered the greatest threat to the Z06 since it's debut. The Turbo would most likely win in a flat-out sprint, but around the track, it is a tough call to make. The same can be said of the GT3, which although fast, it doesn't have the horsepower numbers like the others.
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A 996 GT3 RS posted a lap time of 7'40, which is the same as the 997TT. Porsche engineers say that the 997 GT3 RS should be up to 5-7secs faster around the 'ring, truley magnificant stuff if they can pull it off.
Ive watched a Z06 vs Gallardo and last night I watched a 997TT vs Gallardo and the gallardo lost in both. I think the Z06 and 997TT would be neck and neck, with maybe the Z06 pipping it.
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The GT3 RS that ran the 7'40 time was on higher perforamnce tyres, still road legal but the cars wasn't on stock tyres, and if you say, yeah well it's jjust the tyres you can say yeah well what if you put better tyres on this or that and all of a sudden no times are valid. The 997 Turbo has certainly upped the ante for Porsche wit the new 997 Turbo being faster round the ring than the 996 GT3 RS, I can't wait to see what the 997 GT3 RS can do, the 997 GT3 will probably be in the region of the Turbo.
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...The GT3 RS will presumably rely on cornering speed, which requires balls, while the Turbo offers a good combination of cornering and top speed, which really doesn't require much.
Depending on how radical the PASM (is that what is called?) system is set up, I would expect the cars to be outrageously close together.
The last Porsche I drove was a 1987 911 3.2 Cabrio, and although it was fun to drive, it felt like it was harder to drive fast than some of the other cars I had driven before it (namely the Corvettes, one Viper, and the 3-series). Of course, it was my first time in a Porsche, and I was more concerned about returning it in one piece and NOT getting a speeding ticket (despite the fact we did over 100 MPH more than once).
Depending on how radical the PASM (is that what is called?) system is set up, I would expect the cars to be outrageously close together.
The last Porsche I drove was a 1987 911 3.2 Cabrio, and although it was fun to drive, it felt like it was harder to drive fast than some of the other cars I had driven before it (namely the Corvettes, one Viper, and the 3-series). Of course, it was my first time in a Porsche, and I was more concerned about returning it in one piece and NOT getting a speeding ticket (despite the fact we did over 100 MPH more than once).
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Technically speaking, the Porsche lineup looks like this:
- 911 GT2 (Turbo)
- 911 Turbo
- 911 GT3 RS
- 911 GT3
- 911 Carrera 4S
- 911 Carrera S
- 911 Carrera 4
- 911 Carrera
- Cayman S
- Boxster S
- Cayman
- Boxster
... Because there aren't any offical numbers on any of the new 997 911s above the Carrera 4S level, it is hard to predict exactly how the race would end up. Early tests of the 911 Turbo had them (the magazines) thinking of 0-60 times around 3.6-3.8 seconds (about what a Z06 would be expected to do), and top out somewhere north of 200 MPH (2 MPH faster than the Z06).
As for the GT3, numbers again aren't completely certain, but they expect to have them be pretty close to the old GT3 RS even with the base GT3.
- 911 GT2 (Turbo)
- 911 Turbo
- 911 GT3 RS
- 911 GT3
- 911 Carrera 4S
- 911 Carrera S
- 911 Carrera 4
- 911 Carrera
- Cayman S
- Boxster S
- Cayman
- Boxster
... Because there aren't any offical numbers on any of the new 997 911s above the Carrera 4S level, it is hard to predict exactly how the race would end up. Early tests of the 911 Turbo had them (the magazines) thinking of 0-60 times around 3.6-3.8 seconds (about what a Z06 would be expected to do), and top out somewhere north of 200 MPH (2 MPH faster than the Z06).
As for the GT3, numbers again aren't completely certain, but they expect to have them be pretty close to the old GT3 RS even with the base GT3.
The Turbo is cool, but it's AWD.
The GT2 is the one that is actually nicer than the GT3.
I'd say GT2 > GT3 RS=Turbo> GT3.
The Inevitable Turbo S will probably slot in between the GT2 and GT3 RS, but I like my Porsches Dangerous.
It doesn't get much more dangerous than 530+ Hp, ass engined, RWD...too fast not to get off the throttle, to eager to swing it around if you do.
The GT2 is the one that is actually nicer than the GT3.
I'd say GT2 > GT3 RS=Turbo> GT3.
The Inevitable Turbo S will probably slot in between the GT2 and GT3 RS, but I like my Porsches Dangerous.
It doesn't get much more dangerous than 530+ Hp, ass engined, RWD...too fast not to get off the throttle, to eager to swing it around if you do.
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The Turbo tends to beawt the GT3 on most tracks, but get beaten by the GT3 RS, the Turbo price wise and power wise is higher than the GT3 RS, so it is a higher model, and on track it beats the GT3, but I've yet to see a GT3 RS lose to a Turbo. Really the main reasons someone will buy one over the other is how they want the car to drive, the performance isn't staggeringly different here, but the Turbo and GT3 are very different animals to be at he wheel of.
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996 Turbo and 996TT are the exact same thing... what are you on about?
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dont you mean the tiptronic?
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Uh, because it has two turbos. They all do. In fact, they have two KKK turbos, if you wanted to know.
EDIT: I just saw your post above. Man, a 996 Turbo has a twin-turbocharged engine. There was no 996 Twin Turbo as a model. I've always (and most people have as well) called the 996 Turbo a 966TT for short, because it's twin-turbocharged. Happy?
I was always confused by those ads that showed a 996 Turbo, then a 996 TT below it.
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Yes, of course 
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BTW here's a quote from Porsche about the 997 Turbo (feature on their VTG)
EDIT ok we're cool. Yeah, I don't know where I got into the habit of calling a 996 Turbo a 996TT, but I always have. Same for the 997TT...
.BTW here's a quote from Porsche about the 997 Turbo (feature on their VTG)
EDIT ok we're cool. Yeah, I don't know where I got into the habit of calling a 996 Turbo a 996TT, but I always have. Same for the 997TT...
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What are you fools arguing about now? Porsche 911 Turbos have been twin-turbo since 1996, ala the 996 version. Before that they were all single-turbo. There has never been a 911 Twin Turbo, just the Turbo. There have been Turbo S models, Turbo 4s, Turbo-ll models, all sorts of stuff. They used to have the engine displacement following the "Turbo" tag. In fact, the proper name for the 993 Turbo--the first bi-turbo--was "Porsche 911 Turbo 4 (993)".
Just a side note: Did you know the Tiptronic S transmission first became an option way back on the 1995 911 Carrera (993)?
Just a side note: Did you know the Tiptronic S transmission first became an option way back on the 1995 911 Carrera (993)?
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keepin an eye on this thread. Stumbled across it whilst lookin for my 911 GT3 7'42 'ring source.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1424900
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1424900
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