"Blue Devil" News: Test Details Roll In

[Poverty]

lol I didnt mean it. There are several cars out there with the xtreme.extreme moniker. All im saying is that blue devil would be so cool.

 

[Jay]

I never liked the 'extreme' name because we got a exteme packaged Ford Festiva that had a ugly body kit which a guy I know bought (Extreme Festiva) and he thought it was the best race car ever. Now I get bad memorys from 'Extreme'.

I would prefer GM to call it something more original, instead of falling back on previous Corvette names like Gran sport, ZR-1, ZL-1, L88 etc

I do love the name Blue Devil.

 

[Onikaze]

What he said ^

A ZL1 or ZR1 or L88 or GS would make someone out there unhappy as that is just taking a limited edition model run and making it less special.

There has only ever been one Corvette SS last I checked, and noone got to buy one.

 

[JCE]

You know, no matter what GM does to the Vette it will never gain worldwide respect. Even if GM stuffed a V16 under the bonnet and NA tuned it to 1200bhp and sold it for $75k USD Europeans (mostly anyway) would still hate on it and refuse to give it some respect. Conversely I think it's about time for a GM sourced V10 with 600bhp NA tuned for the next ZO6 and hopefully the C7 will use an NA tuned LS7 with at least 520bhp while still maintaining a 17-18mpg rating. [/rant]

Now for the specific topic, is it possible to say that the Blue Devil will compete with the Enzo, CGT, and Zonda directly? I'm curious to know what it's ring time would be if pushed hard. But having said that, why does GM bother with this? The ZO6 is more than enough--shouldn't they spend thier R&D money on sprucing up other current models? Is it too much to wish for a new "Z" trim for the Cobalt? Or how about using the money to develope saloon AWD systems? Or even *gasp* develop better interiors? Yes the Blue Devil is sweet as hell, but my question is "why bother".

 

[Poverty]

I'm curious to know what it's ring time would be if pushed hard.

Id guess 7mins 42secs

 

[Dave A]

No, I do not for one minuet think the Blue Devil will be fast enough to compete with the Enzo, Carrera GT and Zonda F.

 

[Famine]

You know, no matter what GM does to the Vette it will never gain worldwide respect. Even if GM stuffed a V16 under the bonnet and NA tuned it to 1200bhp and sold it for $75k USD Europeans (mostly anyway) would still hate on it and refuse to give it some respect.

Just curious. Why?

 

[DeLoreanBrown]

Corvette Xtream?

This is quite a snappy name for the package, the little info i have on it.

It could be the most horsies for a $ if'n'when it reaches production.

 

[JCE]

Just curious. Why?

You know why. Just look at all the TVR vs Vette discussions just on this forum alone. I base my opinion on what I've seen on many forums including this one--especially when the ZO6 is mentioned all the Vette bashers come out of the woodwork and it all starts again. But, keep in mind just because I am German doesn't mean I'm on either side--I'm looking in from outside the box really. I just needed an avenue to vent a little frustration and this seemed like the thread to do it. I still think the "Blue Devil" is pointless, the ZO6 plainly competes with most supercars and a few "hypercars"...whether or not anyone chooses to accept it or not it's a fact. May not be pithy but hope it gets my point across well enough so no one misunderstands my meaning. 👍

 

[Famine]

You know why.

No, I don't. That's why I asked.

I can't think of any reason that you might suppose that (mostly) Europeans would hate a Corvette no matter what it was like.

 

[Dave A]

I actually think most Europeans, at least the one's that are aware of the Vette, think the Vette is a pretty cool car, it's a kid's that arn't old enough to drive that have access to this wonder called the Internet that tend to be the one's that bad mouth car's they will probably never drive.

 

[JCE]

No, I don't. That's why I asked.

I can't think of any reason that you might suppose that (mostly) Europeans would hate a Corvette no matter what it was like.

Well ok then, if you don't then the rest of the post hopefully should explain where I'm coming from. If not, no big deal. Last time I'm mention it since we've pretty much covered this topic. Cheers.

 

[Famine]

Yes - I've read an awful lot of Corvette vs. everything - with awful being the operative word. But how you turn this into some European mass anti-GM feeling escapes me.

I'm asking why YOU state that (mostly) Europeans would hate any Corvette no matter what it was, simply because it's a Corvette. It's quite a staggering statement if you take a moment to think about it.

 

[Poverty]

On the german car forums they rate the corvette, for what it is. However in the Uk it wont get much respect due to the price that theyre selling them for, and then theres also the fuel economy.

I think the vette is similair to the skyline. So many fanboys out there with the constant ZEE OH SIKS and OMG SKYLINEZ RULEZ can get very annoying to us normal folk.

 

[Dave A]

And lhd only, but they're still seen as cool car's, just not many people are willing to get one here for thoes reasons. It's like when American's start going on about how much Carkson hate's American car's, it's complete rubbish.

 

[GT4_Rule]

On the german car forums they rate the corvette, for what it is. However in the Uk it wont get much respect due to the price that theyre selling them for, and then theres also the fuel economy.

I think the vette is similair to the skyline. So many fanboys out there with the constant ZEE OH SIKS and OMG SKYLINEZ RULEZ can get very annoying to us normal folk.

My sig - ZEE OH SIKS

The reason for the high price of Vette in UK is due to the duties you guys have, the fact that it has to be transported across the Atlantic, and the conversions importers must make to make the Vette road legal. It isnt meant to compete with the likes of SLK55 AMG and TVR Sagaris. Z06 is only around $75,000 USD but those factors mentioned above push the UK prices to 49,999 Pounds (last summer's issue of Car magazine using Corvette hardtop, not a Z06) which is way too expensive.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

Blue Devil:from what ive found, it will be a supercharged 600-650hp Zo6 with carbon fiber components. (as reported by Autoweek in a recent interview with General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz.) With a curb weight around 2900 lbs. and a price tag starting at about $100,000 (extremely low price for such a fast car) the European competition should be breaking into a cold sweat!


There is no denying this thang will drop jaws with amazing performance but the best --and worst-- part is the price tag. The price is the best part in terms of having an obtainable super car for non-millionaires. However, the worst part is the absence of status and exclusivity that comes with an exotic super sports car's astronomical price tag. Price it too low and the Blue Devil will never shake that second tier reputation no matter how good it performs. Bargains are for the frugal minded and in the realm of supercars this doesn't mix. It is well known that GM has the capability to build amazing cars of such caliber but in the midst of financial difficulty the Blue Devil is a bit inappropriate. GM should stop trying to shed light on its model line by creating an artificial halo effect from an affordable super car. Instead they should concentrate more on anticipating consumer tastes and make desirable products as a result. And I'm not talking about making more SUV's.

 

[Dave A]

The C6 doesn't need much to make it legal in the UK, US law's are strickter than ours for production car's. The standard C6 Vette over here costs the equivelent of over $90,000 USD, thoes charges do not ammount to nearly that much extra, tbh though, the price isn't incredibly bad for the UK, it's still cheaper than an M3, but the car's that it compete's with more directly are most of the time, cheaper, the kick in the nut's is the lhd only when it comes to the UK, though I have to say, the interior leaves a lot to be desired as well for a 50 grand car. The vette is like the Skyline in that it has fanboy's, but so does any iconic car.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

I knew that. Thats why I want to live in the UK. Wait-what? Its cheaper then the M3?!

 

[Dave A]

Nope, it's not, I actually got the prices mixed up with another model. The M3 is cheaper than the C6, but the C6 is the same price as the Sagaris and the RS4.

 

[GT4_Rule]

Blue Devil:from what ive found, it will be a supercharged 600-650hp Zo6 with carbon fiber components. (as reported by Autoweek in a recent interview with General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz.) With a curb weight around 2900 lbs. and a price tag starting at about $100,000 (extremely low price for such a fast car) the European competition should be breaking into a cold sweat!


There is no denying this thang will drop jaws with amazing performance but the best --and worst-- part is the price tag. The price is the best part in terms of having an obtainable super car for non-millionaires. However, the worst part is the absence of status and exclusivity that comes with an exotic super sports car's astronomical price tag. Price it too low and the Blue Devil will never shake that second tier reputation no matter how good it performs. Bargains are for the frugal minded and in the realm of supercars this doesn't mix. It is well known that GM has the capability to build amazing cars of such caliber but in the midst of financial difficulty the Blue Devil is a bit inappropriate. GM should stop trying to shed light on its model line by creating an artificial halo effect from an affordable super car. Instead they should concentrate more on anticipating consumer tastes and make desirable products as a result. And I'm not talking about making more SUV's.

Nicely said. There is always a side effect to something...

 

[McLaren]

Blue Devil:from what ive found, it will be a supercharged 600-650hp Zo6 with carbon fiber components. (as reported by Autoweek in a recent interview with General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz.) With a curb weight around 2900 lbs. and a price tag starting at about $100,000 (extremely low price for such a fast car) the European competition should be breaking into a cold sweat!


There is no denying this thang will drop jaws with amazing performance but the best --and worst-- part is the price tag. The price is the best part in terms of having an obtainable super car for non-millionaires. However, the worst part is the absence of status and exclusivity that comes with an exotic super sports car's astronomical price tag. Price it too low and the Blue Devil will never shake that second tier reputation no matter how good it performs. Bargains are for the frugal minded and in the realm of supercars this doesn't mix. It is well known that GM has the capability to build amazing cars of such caliber but in the midst of financial difficulty the Blue Devil is a bit inappropriate. GM should stop trying to shed light on its model line by creating an artificial halo effect from an affordable super car. Instead they should concentrate more on anticipating consumer tastes and make desirable products as a result. And I'm not talking about making more SUV's.

And you said you're just 12?

Very nice post, and definately rep. given for that!👍

 

[GT4_Rule]

And you said you're just 12?

Very nice post, and definately rep. given for that!👍

True, sounds like some 18 year old's post Great improvement buddy!

 

[Rogue Ssv]

Cool, rep points. Thanks everyone.
@TVRfan: That makes more sense. Id rather have an RS4 tho. Hmm though Ive always loved TVRs. CURSE YOU, EUROPE, WITH YOUR TVRS, STREETLEGAL RACECARS, EXIGE S, AND ADORABLE LITTLE MINICARS!!!!!

By the way, did any of you read the most recent issue of MotorTrend, starring Hennessy venom SRT10 coupe (1000-something hp), Steeda 'Stang, and of course z06, among with a bunch of other American 750+hp supercars?
I assume not since I know a place that gets it 2 months early, its like the July issue or something.
Well they did another standing mile with the z06 and a bunch of 750-1200 hp cars, even crazy-faster then the last one that I think was Road & Track. Youve got to check this out!

Its the one where the mighty Z06 gets its azzzz kicked. Hard. Very, very hard.
Its a long fall from the top.... though the Z06 wasnt really at the top. The Ford GT and Saleen S7 TwinTurbo were (remember this is American only cars).
Anyway, check it out!
Heres some specs in advance:
originally posted by Motortrend.com:

Accufab Supercharged 2005 Ford GT
www.accufabracing.com
909/930-1751
331 c.i. (5.4L) Supercharged V-8 engine (720 HP)
Kenne-Bell HCD billet aluminum blower drive system
Kenne-Bell Boost-A-Spark ignition system
Accufab dual 75mm billet aluminum throttle-body assembly
Accufab large diameter inlet sleeve
Ford Racing Performance Parts (FRPP) stainless-steel racing muffler system
Diablo Mafia MAF tuner
Powertrain Dynamics tuner
Installation of parts and tuning
Accufab engine package (installed): $8,017


Driveline Upgrade Package
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires (18-inch, front; 19-inch rear)
Driveline upgrade: $1,390


Total Upgrades Price: $9,407 (not including vehicle)
Total Package Price: $174,252 (including $164,845 Ford GT)




Hennessey Venom 1000 Twin-Turbo 2006 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe
www.hennesseyperformance.com
713/466-3420
522 c.i. (8.5L) Twin-Turbo V-10 engine (1000 HP)

Original engine removal, inspection, and disassembly
Custom-machined crankshaft
Manley Pro Forged steel rods
ARP rod bolts
Polydyn-coated rod bearings
JE forged aluminum pistons
Upgraded hydraulic roller lifters
Larger fuel injectors
Upgraded fuel pump and larger fuel lines
Upgraded fuel pressure regulator
Engine blueprinting and computer balancing
Mobil One synthetic oil and filter
Twin Garrett ball-bearing turbochargers
High flow air filters
Front-mounted intercooler
Polished stainless-steel inlet tubing
Custom intercooler hoses with T-clamps
Stainless-steel turbo headers
Stainless-steel turbo downpipes
External turbo wastegates
Custom stainless-steel dual exhaust system
Greddy boost controller
Centerforce heavy-duty clutch assembly
Custom air/fuel calibration
Chassis dyno testing and road testing
Hennessey "Venom Power" custom stitched floor mats
Venom 1000 Twin-Turbo exterior emblems
Venom 1000 package (installed): $65,000


Engine/Driveline Upgrade Package (1,100-1,200 HP)
Precision GT40 ball-bearing turbochargers upgrade (for 1,100+ HP)
Mopar Racing custom oil pan
Quaiffe heavy-duty rearend differential
Hennessey 5-point racing seat belt harness kit
KW Suspension adjustable coil-over shock/spring suspension system (1.5-inch ride height reduction, 30-lbs weight reduction)
Disc brake upgrade (lightweight rotors, Pagid brake pads, stainless-steel brake lines, Motul brake fluid)
Hennessey Performance Venom 7R polished 3-piece forged aluminum wheels (19x10-inch front/20x13-inch rear)
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires (275/30YR19, front; 335/30YR20, rear)
Venom 1,100+ HP upgrade package (installed): $35,715


Total Upgrades Price: $100,715 (not including vehicle)
Total Package Price: $187,710 (including $86,995 Viper Coupe)




Lingenfelter Performance Engineering (LPE) 2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Twin-Turbo 427
www.lingenfelter.com
260/724-2552
427 c.i. (7.0L) Twin-Turbo V-8 engine (725 HP)

Original engine removal, inspection, and disassembly
GM 7.0L aluminum block
4340 forged steel crankshaft
Custom forged aluminum pistons
Forged steel connecting rods
Computer balanced rotating assembly
LPE CNC-porting and hand polishing of cylinder heads
2.02-inch intake/1.57-inch exhaust valves
Custom double valve springs with titanium retainers
LPE hydraulic roller camshaft and lifters
Two Garret hybrid GT-series ball-bearing turbochargers
High efficiency liquid-to-air charge cooler
High efficiency liquid-to-air heat exchanger, pump, and coolant tank
Custom molded silicone air ducts
Custom stainless-steel exhaust manifolds
Custom stainless-steel turbo outlet adapters
LPE belt-driven turbocharger scavenge pump and oil reservoir
Conical air filters, heat shields, and stainless-steel clamps
LPE MAF sensor
High capacity fuel system
Oversized fuel injectors
LPE rear mount battery system
Corsa 2.5-inch diameter stainless-steel cat-back dual exhaust system
Professional installation, tuning, and dyno testing
LPE Twin-Turbo Engine Package (installed): $52,995


Engine/Tranny/Safety Upgrades (1,100 HP)

Custom Moldex billet steel crankshaft
Billet steel connecting rods
Heavy-duty timing chain set
FAST intake manifold
Upgraded fuel injectors and support electronics
Secondary fuel pump system
High-flow fuel rails with adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Custom Corsa 3-inch diameter stainless-steel exhaust system
TiAL blow-off valves
TiAL external waste gates
LPE custom dry sump oil system
Custom GT35R ball-bearing turbochargers (special water cooled turbos)
Custom stainless-steel exhaust manifolds and outlets
Higher capacity intercooler with remote rear-mounted coolant tank
Electronic boost controller
Transmission overhaul including H-D main shaft and gear sets
3.15:1 rearend differential gear set
Heavy-duty differential output shafts
McLeod dual-disk clutch with sintered iron disks
Clutch scattershield with transmission safety blanket
6-point roll bar with removable side door bars
Recaro racing seats
5-point racing seat belt system
Boost gauge with gauge pod
Shift light
Fire extinguisher
Video camera mount
1,100 HP Upgrades (installed): $94,500


Additional Upgrades

DRM/Bilstein coil-over shocks/springs
Special anti-roll bar end links
HRE 844R 19x10-inch (front) and 20x12.5-inch (rear) forged aluminum wheels
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 285/35ZR19 (front) and 335/30ZR20 (rear) tires
Chevrolet Z06 front and rear fenders, front fascia, painting, installation
Labor to modify vehicle for oversized wheels/tires
Brembo 4-piston calipers, 14-inch diameter 2-piece, cross-drilled rotors, heavy-duty brake pads, stainless-steel brake lines (front and rear)
Innovative Motorsports air/fuel meter and data acquisition system
LPE additional upgrades (installed): $29,935.99


Total Upgrades Price: $177,430 (Not including vehicle)
Total Package Price: $225,860 (Including $48,430 Corvette C6)




Livernois Motorsports Supercharged 2005 Ford Mustang GT
www.livernoismotorsports.com
313/561-5500
281 c.i. (4.6L) Supercharged V-8 engine (850 HP)

Original engine removal, inspection, and disassembly
Livernois custom crankshaft
Mahle forged aluminum pistons, pins, and rings
Manley forged-steel rods
Livernois CNC-ported cylinder heads
Steeda Charge Motion plates
Custom long-tube exhaust headers
Custom exhaust X-pipe
High-flow catalytic converters
Corsa stainless-steel cat-back exhaust system
ProCharger F1-A supercharger kit
ProCharger air-to-air intercooler
Snow Performance boost cooler
Upgraded fuel system
Engine assembly, blueprinting, and calibration
Livernois Supercharged V-8 package (installed): $18,899


Driveline Upgrade Package

Dodge Viper-spec T56 6-speed manual transmission upgrade
Heavy-duty clutch
Driveshaft safety loop
Boxed subframe connectors
Adjustable 3-link upper trailing arm kit
Lower trailing arm kit
Adjustable panhard bar
Heavy-duty panhard bar brace
Heavy-duty struts/shocks
Larger diameter anti-roll bars
Lowering springs
Bumpsteer kit
3.73:1 rearend differential gears
HRE C20 forged aluminum wheels (19x9.5-inch front/19x10.5-inch rear)
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires
Baer Racing "Extreme Plus" disc brake kit (6-piston calipers, 15-inch diameter cross-drilled rotors, heavy-duty brake pads)
Livernois drivetrain package (installed): $20,577


Appearance Upgrade Package

Corbeau CR1 micro-suede seats
Corbeau 5-point seatbelts
Fiberglass cowl-induction hood
Rear trunklid spoiler
Livernois appearance package (installed): $3,599


Total Upgrade Price: $43,075 (not including vehicle)
Total Package Price: $69,995 (including $26,875 Mustang GT)




Motorsports Technologies Inc. 2005 Pontiac GTO turbocharged H.O. 455
www.motorsporttech.com
281/870-8787
455 c.i. (7.5 Liter) V-8 engine

CNC-machined LS2 engine block
ARP head studs and main studs
4340 forged steel 4.185-inch stroke crankshaft
Billet steel 6.125-inch connecting rods, ARP rod bolts
Forged aluminum 4.160-inch bore diameter ceramic and Teflon-coated pistons
Air Flow Research 225cc LS1 cylinder heads, CNC-ported and hand finished
MTI-spec hydraulic roller camshaft and lifters
FAST composite intake manifold
Custom billet aluminum 90mm throttle body
Jesel shaft-mounted 1.7:1 roller rocker arms
Stainless-steel 1 7/8-inch diameter long-tube exhaust headers
3-inch diameter high-flow metal substrate catalytic converters
Dyno testing and calibration
Engine package (installed): $18,000


Forced Induction Package

STS rear-mounted single turbocharger system with front-mounted intercooler
Cockpit adjustable boost controller, boost gauge, and wide-band oxygen sensor
MTI custom computer calibration and dyno testing
Turbo and fuel system upgrade (installed): $12,500
Total Engine Cost: $30,500


Drivetrain Upgrades

Heavy-duty billet steel flywheel
High-performance clutch upgrade
Fully built T56 6-speed manual transmission with heat-treated gears and Viper ratios.
Special 3.07:1 rear axle gear ratio for high-speed runs
Lightweight carbon fiber driveshaft
Driveshaft safety loop
Harrop rear differential cover with polyurethane mount
Heavy-duty CV shafts
Billet steel axle stubs
Pedders coil spring (1-inch lower front/0.5-inch lower rear)
Pedders GSR big-bore shock upgrade
Pedders rear anti-roll bar
Suspension bushings upgrade
Baer Racing GT Plus disc brake kit (2-piston front calipers, 1-piston rear calipers)
CCW SP-500 18x8.5-/18x9.5-inch forged aluminum wheels
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 (255/35ZR18 front, 275/35ZR18 rear) tires
MTI drivetrain package (installed): $11,500


Total Upgrades Price: $42,000 (Not including vehicle)
Total Package Price: $75,180 (Including $33,180 Pontiac GTO)


Thats 4500 total horsepower!!!!!!!

What Id do for a 1000 hp Hennessey Viper....

 

[Jay]

I think the vette is similair to the skyline. So many fanboys out there with the constant ZEE OH SIKS and OMG SKYLINEZ RULEZ can get very annoying to us normal folk.

You think it annoys you normal folk? How about the genuine enthusiast that have to put up with the young fan boys then the 'normal' folk come in and bash the car because they are sick of hearing the fan boys. Its a lose - lose situation.

Thats 4500 total horsepower!!!!!!!

Which is less than one top fueler drag car.

 

[McLaren]

Uh yes, Rogue, I did read it. Almost a week ago.

If you notice my sig, I'm writing up the review.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

Oh. Well I read it quite a few weeks ago, as I said I know this place that gets it 2 months in advance.
I dont see anything on your sig. oohhhh, it says 'coming soon: strike force review'....
But it was awesome, wasnt it?
@ViperGTSR01: What?! How much does a top fuellie make?!?!? :surprised: !!! Well maybe so, but with better fuel efficiency

 

[McLaren]

Oh. Well I read it quite a few weeks ago, as I said I know this place that gets it 2 months in advance.
I dont see anything on your sig.
But it was awesome, wasnt it?
@ViperGTSR01: What?! How much does a top fuellie make?!?!? :surprised: !!! Well maybe so, but with better fuel efficiency

The review was called Strike Force.
But yes, it was awesome, and it was awesome to see the Henessey represent Texas.

But this is all for another topic.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

Yeah.. I read it too, but havent had enough money to buy it . I should get it on Monday.
So... what else about the Z06 Blue Devil then?

 

[Jay]

Oh
@ViperGTSR01: What?! How much does a top fuellie make?!?!? :surprised: !!!

Around 7000hp

Here is some fun facts
http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/funfacts.html