Britain - The Official Thread

[Liquid]

But now using the word "bald" is part of the no-no language when used in a "harassing" manner

And? Spiteful litigation always uses whatever it can. If I was that pissed off about getting sacked that I wanted to sue, I'd bring up every grievance, no matter how small or trivial.

Not for just calling me bald - I don't imagine I'd get anywhere with that.

I don't know if the threat to violence is pertinent

You now doubt that just calling someone bald is enough of a reason to sue but you don't think additional threats to violence are relevant to a case in which threats of physical violance were issued? Come on. If you can't sue someone on grounds of harassment just for calling someone bald, as you have now doubted, then you can't tell us that just calling someone bald is grounds for harassment. The rags will always sensationalise it and take it out of context as I mentioned in my previous post.

If someone called me a bald ****, could I sue?

Number one, it depends entirely on the situation. Is this a workplace grievance or something down in the pub? A complete stranger or a friend? And don't just invent a scenario now, I'm saying this to make the point that it does indeed depend on the situation. The more you add to a hypothetical scenario, the more factors and variables you have to take in for the relevance of the case.

Just calling someone bald, or even a bald ****, will depend on so many other factors. Number two, once again, try it. You might find out that you need those other pertinent threats to make a valid case.

 

[HenrySwanson]

And? Spiteful litigation always uses whatever it can. If I was that pissed off about getting sacked that I wanted to sue, I'd bring up every grievance, no matter how small or trivial.



You now doubt that just calling someone bald is enough of a reason to sue but you don't think additional threats to violence are relevant to a case in which threats of physical violance were issued? Come on. If you can't sue someone on grounds of harassment just for calling someone bald, as you have now doubted, then you can't tell us that just calling someone bald is grounds for harassment. The rags will always sensationalise it and take it out of context as I mentioned in my previous post.


Number one, it depends entirely on the situation. Is this a workplace grievance or something down in the pub? A complete stranger or a friend? And don't just invent a scenario now, I'm saying this to make the point that it does indeed depend on the situation. The more you add to a hypothetical scenario, the more factors and variables you have to take in for the relevance of the case.

Just calling someone bald, or even a bald ****, will depend on so many other factors. Number two, once again, try it. You might find out that you need those other pertinent threats to make a valid case.

I always doubted just calling someone bald is enough grounds. However, if it can be linked to "sexual harassment", what is the limit? Even you don't know! That's not a way to live....

And then, if one judge sets a precedent by throwing one case out, what guarantee is it that another won't see it a different way?

 

[RYAN]

The best thing to do in these situations is try and make a joke and have a laugh. Otherwise the experience would be made even worse.

Anyway, I got my mum a bag of chips in the meantime so that's cheered her up a bit 😄👍

Pleased to say the ambulance arrived at 4.00AM yesterday. That's 38 hours after the district nurses requested the ambulance.

Anyway, She's been back home most of the day comfortable, happy and in good spirits. 🥹👍

 

[HenrySwanson]

Will be watching this:

Undercover film exposing UK far-right activists pulled from London festival

Film festival organisers make ‘heartbreaking’ decision not to show Undercover: Exposing the Far Right amid concerns over staff welfare

www.theguardian.com

 

[HenrySwanson]

EDIT: LOL. Tweets are far worse than a group racially beating a 14 year old, let's be honest



I think we're witnessing a complete narrative collapse and it's up to reasonable members of society to ensure the country doesn't go for the easy answers of the right/far-right.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I think we're witnessing a complete narrative collapse and it's up to reasonable members of society to ensure the country doesn't go for the easy answers of the right/far-right.

Reasonable members of society don't think people are going to prison for making tweets.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Reasonable members of society don't think people are going to prison for making tweets.

Oh you again, lulz.

Man jailed after sharing 'grossly offensive' social media posts

A FIFTY-one-year-old Egremont man has become the latest person in the county to be jailed for posting racially aggravated online social media posts…

www.newsandstar.co.uk

Jailed for riot comments: justice or creeping censorship?

Tough sentences have been handed out to those who fanned the flames of disorder online but did not take part. Where will it lead?

www.thetimes.com

Still haven't replied to my post in the Islam thread I see. But then again, what's new. Don't address the issue but attack the messenger.

Come on now, this is your chance! A racist group attack on a 14 year old kid leads to a lenient sentence. Or are you actually not colourblind and the victim is the wrong colour for you to make some noise. Sad.

 

[Liquid]

it's up to reasonable members of society to ensure the country doesn't go for the easy answers of the right/far-right.

What are the hard answers/hard truths?

 

[HenrySwanson]

What are the hard answers/hard truths?

The easy answers from the far-right are to blame the immigrants.

The more accurate answer is to look at the policies and consequences around multiculturalism and a rapid population influx honestly, and the complete lack of long term planning in almost every sector by previous governments. Sticking plaster mentality has destroyed the country, and we're seeing the outcomes of the treatment of different ethnic groups, and the subsequent correction to those historical wrongs.

 

[TheCracker]

The easy answers from the far-right are to blame the immigrants.

The more accurate answer is to look at the policies and consequences around multiculturalism and a rapid population influx honestly, and the complete lack of long term planning in almost every sector by previous governments. Sticking plaster mentality has destroyed the country, and we're seeing the outcomes of the treatment of different ethnic groups, and the subsequent correction to those historical wrongs.

There's been an awful lot of 'kicking the can down the street' from a whole sucession of governments over a great deal of the UK's major issues. Imigration, the NHS, military spending etc. And although these issues are things people have been concerned about for a long while, they're now problems that can no longer be ignored. They need to do something now or leave the door wide open for a properly fascist government. Not stupid knee-jerk populist-pleasing 'solutions', that are never going to work, but genuine long-term plans that might not please everyone but make sense. Consult some educated experts, not rely on the advise of think tanks with a narrow political or commercial agenda.

 

[HenrySwanson]

There's been an awful lot of 'kicking the can down the street' from a whole sucession of governments over a great deal of the UK's major issues. Imigration, the NHS, military spending etc. And although these issues are things people have been concerned about for a long while, they're now problems that can no longer be ignored. They need to do something now or leave the door wide open for a properly fascist government. Not stupid knee-jerk populist-pleasing 'solutions', that are never going to work, but genuine long-term plans that might not please everyone but make sense. Consult some educated experts, not rely on the advise of think tanks with a narrow political or commercial agenda.

Labour seems to be doing this (at least in the sectors I have limited knowledge in), but there's pushback from the rightwing media (god I hate them).

Knowing that they'd win the election handily I hate that they've tied themselves up by committing to a "no-NI rise for workers" position. Why do people expect we can have great services and the infrastructure neede for such a large population for nothing? It's the worst case of a leftist dream with right spending policy, and the chickens are coming home.

The general public needs a wakeup call and to start thinking of others and their country's present and future rather than just their wallets. The Boomers have been one of the luckiest generations ever - it's tough what has happened with Winter Fuel but fair.

 

[Liquid]

Apparently Esther Rantzen is an evil witch for wanting a debate on assisted dying. It's a topic a lot of people are uncomfortable with but it's really brought out a lot of ghouls who just want to attack her rather than debate the issue.

 

[TheCracker]

Apparently Esther Rantzen is an evil witch for wanting a debate on assisted dying. It's a topic a lot of people are uncomfortable with but it's really brought out a lot of ghouls who just want to attack her rather than debate the issue.

Another subject that religion gets its unwanted mitts on and turns a issue of logic and decency into an unnecessary moral quandary.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Another subject that religion gets its unwanted mitts on and turns a issue of logic and decency into an unnecessary moral quandary.

There was a very well written piece in opposition to assisted dying (in terms of prose, anyway) by A.N. Wilson recently. It's no surprise that he's quite attracted to Catholicism.

As long as there are safeguards, I would vote to allow it.

 

[Liquid]

I could be wrong but I get the impression that Esther Rantzen is getting flak because she's... vaguely left-wing? It doesn't seem like Christian criticism from Maude Flanders and Helen Lovejoy.

 

[Touring Mars]

Alexander McCartney: How police snared the catfish killer

How does a Northern Ireland teenager end up as one of the UK's most prolific online child sex abusers?

www.bbc.co.uk

I rarely wish the death penalty was an option in the UK, but this **** deserves what's coming to him.

One of his victims, a 12 y.o. girl, committed suicide with her father's gun when this disgusting POS demanded that she involve her 9 y.o. sister in his repulsive paedophilic abuse - the girls' father then also killed himself 18 months later. No doubt countless more young lives were wrecked or even lost due to this piece of human filth, but have gone undocumented. Tragically, the man who killed himself didn't even know the reason why his daughter killed herself. The fact that this little girl would rather kill herself than subject her younger sister to abuse is so heartbreaking, but a testament to her incredible bravery and decency - two words that are clearly absent from the vocabulary of her POS killer.

To paraphrase Christopher Hitchens, I don't believe in hell, but it's a pity there's no hell for this **** to rot in.

 

[UKMikey]

I kinda hope he isn't imprisoned under solitary confinement. Other prisoners will probably make this evil ****'s life a living hell. And possibly not a living one.

 

[Liquid]

"Actually, he has legal costs to pay", although informative, isn't the gotcha it's trying slightly to be. He's still using other people's money to pay for his irresponsibility and mistakes which is a horrible thing to do.

"I need money" then walking in and immediately admitting guilt comes across as you know exactly how much trouble you're in and want suckers to bail you out.

Does it not fall under obtaining money by deception? His suckers can't have known this fundraiser was for him to pay damages, they must surely have thought it was to fight the case and he went and pulled their trousers round their ankles.

 

[Fezzik]

Former British colonies owe ‘debt of gratitude’, says Robert Jenrick

Tory leadership candidate wades into reparations debate, arguing empire brought democratic institutions

www.theguardian.com

The territories colonised by our empire were not advanced democracies. Many had been cruel, slave-trading powers. Some had never been independent. The British empire broke the long chain of violent tyranny as we came to introduce – gradually and imperfectly – Christian values

As someone of half-Indian descent, I would like to personally show Bob where he can stick his Christian values

 

[Liquid]

Many had been cruel, slave-trading powers.

Yes, like Britain.

 

[UKMikey]

As someone of half-Indian descent, I would like to personally show Bob where he can stick his Christian values

I still remember when Greater Manchester Chief Constable James Anderton said God told him to talk about AIDS victims "swirling around in a cesspit of their own making".

 

[Scaff]

Former British colonies owe ‘debt of gratitude’, says Robert Jenrick

Tory leadership candidate wades into reparations debate, arguing empire brought democratic institutions

www.theguardian.com

As someone of half-Indian descent, I would like to personally show Bob where he can stick his Christian values

My wife's Anglo-Indian and the Butcher Apron is well named.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I can see why Bobby J is so appealing to Conservative types.

 

[Touring Mars]

Kemi Badenoch is the new leader of the Conservative and Unionist party.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Kemi Badenoch is the new leader of the Conservative and Unionist party.

What's frightening is that since so much depends on the public's reaction to Labour over the next 5 years we could end up with her as PM just because she's the "not-Labour" option that is more palatable than Farage.

 

[TheCracker]

What's frightening is that since so much depends on the public's reaction to Labour over the next 5 years we could end up with her as PM just because she's the "not-Labour" option that is more palatable than Farage.

The tories have had to go Farage-lite with whoever they choose to try and stem their losses of righter wing support thats gone Reform. It's early days with her tenure at the helm, but so far she comes across as just another May/Truss/Sunak nobody that could never win a majority in a general election.

 

[UKMikey]

Our own republicans are also an angry bunch.

Remembrance Sunday: 'Traitors' banner put up at Michelle O'Neill's office

O'Neill was the first senior Sinn Féin figure to take part in an official Remembrance Sunday ceremony.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Fezzik]

They'd be even angrier if they saw you called them "our own" in a thread about Britain

 

[UKMikey]

They seem like understanding types. I'm sure they'd forgive the slip up. /s

 

[HenrySwanson]

The tories have had to go Farage-lite with whoever they choose to try and stem their losses of righter wing support thats gone Reform. It's early days with her tenure at the helm, but so far she comes across as just another May/Truss/Sunak nobody that could never win a majority in a general election.

Maybe.

And maybe Trump was done after losing to Biden in 2020.

The right here have the MSM and are winning the war on social media. I wish I could be as optimistic as you.

EDIT:



Yes, these sentences are because of sentencing guidelines. No, that doesn't mean we should accept it and not try to instigate change by highlighting how ridiculous the justice system can be.