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[mrbrendon999]

Judging from all these discussions.. Should I get the insurance forms and whiplash injury forms?

Yeah you will there was a minor few scrapes and nudges all the way down the grid xD

 

[azidahaka]

yeah stig you nailed me a couple of times too, but hey! when it happens and seriously you try to get better it's not a big issue. (your post is the reason i didn't post any complain to the stewards).

if you are interested you could join me and mo when we are training; we always make a few mini race to get the race braking points (that are very different after a long draft or when you have another car on the inside lol).

Also for now try to make up a setup that allows you to be costantly fast,, not one that gives you a pole position single lap but brings you to make errors in race.

lastly, as a suggestion from the 2nd racer in the btcc, when you attempt a move remember that only one wins the race, 2 others fight for the podium... All the others try to stay as up as they can.

Having won 2 races in _6_ btcc seasons should speak volumes lol. My point is that i surrendered already any idea of winning a race this season (say what you want but alfa and focus are the faster FFs ), so i fight for my 5,6 or 7th place like they would be 1st,2nd or 3rd

Give yourself some targets, like not causing acidents in a whole race day or aim for a certain "pace". My aim for monza was 2.04.5 for example althought i did a few odd 2.03.9 alone. When you found you pace, train a lot online with tires deterioration on real grip. if you can join other so much the better!

karsten

ps don't take this poster as i'm patronizing you, it's just that btcc level is VERY high and there's a few drivers here you'll never be able to keep the pace

 

[SkengD]

At monza its not about fighting cars into chicanes really , its really better for your lap times if you allow ppl to pass and then you re pass them .

Ill admit monza is a bit tricky on the braking and side by side entry into chicane . I try my best to always give room and not always go for the pass if it seems risky , i rather run off line and give back position and go for the move a next time .

 

[sibbystiggy]

Spent all night tuning at monza. Git a 2:02.940 out of the dodge. Don't know how it will perform at grand valley though XD

woooo!!! brendon, you've still got it in you, wish you had set it up like that earlier, for grand valley I think its mainly the gears you have gotta work on 👍

Stig when i look at the replays this weekend ill pm you some tips . Your not as bad as you think you are , at least you want advice and help , thats a great thing alone some people dont want any help .

Thanks skeng, all your tips so far have been very handy

yeah stig you nailed me a couple of times too, but hey! when it happens and seriously you try to get better it's not a big issue. (your post is the reason i didn't post any complain to the stewards).

if you are interested you could join me and mo when we are training; we always make a few mini race to get the race braking points (that are very different after a long draft or when you have another car on the inside lol).

Also for now try to make up a setup that allows you to be costantly fast,, not one that gives you a pole position single lap but brings you to make errors in race.

lastly, as a suggestion from the 2nd racer in the btcc, when you attempt a move remember that only one wins the race, 2 others fight for the podium... All the others try to stay as up as they can.

Having won 2 races in _6_ btcc seasons should speak volumes lol. My point is that i surrendered already any idea of winning a race this season (say what you want but alfa and focus are the faster FFs ), so i fight for my 5,6 or 7th place like they would be 1st,2nd or 3rd

Give yourself some targets, like not causing acidents in a whole race day or aim for a certain "pace". My aim for monza was 2.04.5 for example althought i did a few odd 2.03.9 alone. When you found you pace, train a lot online with tires deterioration on real grip. if you can join other so much the better!

karsten

ps don't take this poster as i'm patronizing you, it's just that btcc level is VERY high and there's a few drivers here you'll never be able to keep the pace

Joining you would be very useful and the short races are a very good idea, Thanks for your advice il take that aboard especially the target setting, cheers mate

 

[mrbrendon999]

woooo!!! brendon, you've still got it in you, wish you had set it up like that earlier, for grand valley I think its mainly the gears you have gotta work on 👍


Thanks skeng, all your tips so far have been very handy



Joining you would be very useful and the short races are a very good idea, Thanks for your advice il take that aboard especially the target setting, cheers mate

Aye mate thanks and hows about we look on the bright side, you got a 4th i got a 9th our best results yet

 

[SkengD]

Someone needs to get us a photo of that race 2 finish .

 

[azidahaka]

Spent all night tuning at monza. Git a 2:02.940 out of the dodge. Don't know how it will perform at grand valley though XD

if you really got 2:02:9 without cutting chicanes around i should really quit for good and mo too, lol!

 

[mrbrendon999]

if you really got 2:02:9 without cutting chicanes around i should really quit for good and mo too, lol!

There was 1 minor cut so ill take that sectors gain off to average at 2:03.2 but ask stig hes driving grand valley with me

 

[ROB 256R]

-Only take the inside when I'm within 1-2 car length close
-Do not bump draft near a braking zone and pull back early to avoid taking anyone off or causing a crash when nearing a corner

Thank you for the tips man, u were right are calling me a menace tho but thanks for forgiving me :-) i appreciate it

Ok, no problem. But please don't take this as a green light to dive up the inside every time you get within 1 or 2 car lengths. I would say that is the absolute max you can try it from but ideally you want to have some sort of overlap especially if it's only a short braking zone.

 

[sibbystiggy]

Ok, no problem. But please don't take this as a green light to dive up the inside every time you get within 1 or 2 car lengths. I would say that is the absolute max you can try it from but ideally you want to have some sort of overlap especially if it's only a short braking zone.

yes I know what you mean, the cleaniest way of overtaking at a braking zone is while overlapping or the person who you are going to overtake doesn't have a clue about what your attempting to do which results in a side on crash. I'm going to focus on leaving most of the overtaking for the straights instead of corners from now and not rely as much on corners as I did before to keep it cleaner.

Someone needs to get us a photo of that race 2 finish .

I was going to upload the photo for our finish for R3 where rolo just had me to the finish by a very small margin but If I have race 3 saved then il upload that finish too

 

[Ian_83]

Stig - I practice with canyon as often as possible, not just flying laps but also race pace. Before Suzuka we were doing race distance practice runs and putting each other under as much pressure as possible. And that's the thing....racing on your own is easy. You can relax, but once you're among other cars the tendency is to tense up and perhaps panic slightly. This isn't going to help, you need to relax (easier said than done), be aware of who is around you and don't force a move.

Some of my best racing is when I'm just tailing the car in-front, keeping in the draft and applying pressure until he makes a mistake. By applying pressure to the car ahead, I'm making him tense up and panic....which means I only have to wait for that 1 missed apex and then I can make my move.

You need more practice time with other cars around you and you have to learn when it's okay to lean on another car (not crash) without pushing someone off the track.

Are you on the PS3 today? I'm at home and I'd gladly join you and hopefully someone else for a race or 3

 

[mrbrendon999]

For all Srt4 drivers and all interested, after doing 10 laps on valley my times were
1- 2:05.3
2- 2:05.5
3- 2:04.9
4- 2:04.5
5- 2:04.9
6- 2:04.8
7- 2:05.2
8- 2:07.7 (went wide t1)
9- 2:05.2
10- 2:04.8

 

[V8-Johnboy]

Stig "Open Lobbies" are a great way to learn a little extra race craft just hunt down the ones that say "Clean or kick etc etc" Or simply set a room up yourself. Back in the day its what I did basically after I was kicked from a GTP series for being I think they said "a little too keen" Nowadays I think I can pride myself on being a fair and clean racer nobody's told me any different anyway
You simply need to hang in there and stick at it you cant buy experience only time and effort will reward.👍

 

[Ian_83]

For all Srt4 drivers and all interested, after doing 10 laps on valley my times were
1- 2:05.3
2- 2:05.5
3- 2:04.9
4- 2:04.5
5- 2:04.9
6- 2:04.8
7- 2:05.2
8- 2:07.7 (went wide t1)
9- 2:05.2
10- 2:04.8

Not too bad. I can run 2:04's but I've not done a race distance to check for consistency. I've had to make some dramatic changes to the Alfa tune for this race, it's much better than it started out, I was stuck in the 2:05's. Hopefully the new tune will be stable enough, I need to do more laps with these settings before I'll reach my peak.

It's fair to say that GVS should provide a win for an FR, assuming that the race is clean. Rob set a very fast time last night (2:03.something) which I can't get anywhere near.

 

[mrbrendon999]

Not too bad. I can run 2:04's but I've not done a race distance to check for consistency. I've had to make some dramatic changes to the Alfa tune for this race, it's much better than it started out, I was stuck in the 2:05's. Hopefully the new tune will be stable enough, I need to do more laps with these settings before I'll reach my peak.

It's fair to say that GVS should provide a win for an FR, assuming that the race is clean. Rob set a very fast time last night (2:03.something) which I can't get anywhere near.

Woah nelly 2:03? On a different lap that i smacked it into wall i was 5tenths up on my best there but i was pushing to hard. There's no way my dodge could get in the 2:03 consistantly

 

[SkengD]

If this was forward GVS i could give the frs a good fight but this reverse track is not nice , hope i learn it by race day

 

[mrbrendon999]

If this was forward GVS i could give the frs a good fight but this reverse track is not nice , hope i learn it by race day

If your on now i could practice with you, need more practice online as well as offline

 

[SkengD]

If your on now i could practice with you, need more practice online as well as offline

Ill be one sometime this sunday , ill post when im in rolos lounge .

 

[mrbrendon999]

Ill be one sometime this sunday , ill post when im in rolos lounge .

Alrighty m8

 

[canyondrifter]

Someone needs to get us a photo of that race 2 finish .

yeah cause on my screen im 2nd but ians screen showed me as 3rd

 

[SkengD]

yeah cause on my screen im 2nd but ians screen showed me as 3rd

Ill have to ask rolo how he will do it , my guess is we will both get 2nd place pts .

 

[canyondrifter]

Stig - I practice with canyon as often as possible, not just flying laps but also race pace. Before Suzuka we were doing race distance practice runs and putting each other under as much pressure as possible. And that's the thing....racing on your own is easy. You can relax, but once you're among other cars the tendency is to tense up and perhaps panic slightly. This isn't going to help, you need to relax (easier said than done), be aware of who is around you and don't force a move.

Some of my best racing is when I'm just tailing the car in-front, keeping in the draft and applying pressure until he makes a mistake. By applying pressure to the car ahead, I'm making him tense up and panic....which means I only have to wait for that 1 missed apex and then I can make my move.

You need more practice time with other cars around you and you have to learn when it's okay to lean on another car (not crash) without pushing someone off the track.

Are you on the PS3 today? I'm at home and I'd gladly join you and hopefully someone else for a race or 3

watch him...hes good at fainting a pass which puts you off or at least it does me from time to time...lol...but yeah i agree that practicing full race spec ,closequarters is the best way to learn lines and pace ,and braking positions (which imo the alfa lacks in)

 

[canyondrifter]

Ill have to ask rolo how he will do it , my guess is we will both get 2nd place pts .

thats cool as we did cross the line at the exact same time lol

 

[mrbrendon999]

thats cool as we did cross the line at the exact same time lol

Me nd jay were only 0.003 apart race 1 xD

 

[azidahaka]

we had a phofinish with mose, me and andy too. cool things!

 

[SkengD]

Highspeed ring should be better than monza i think

 

[sibbystiggy]

Stig - I practice with canyon as often as possible, not just flying laps but also race pace. Before Suzuka we were doing race distance practice runs and putting each other under as much pressure as possible. And that's the thing....racing on your own is easy. You can relax, but once you're among other cars the tendency is to tense up and perhaps panic slightly. This isn't going to help, you need to relax (easier said than done), be aware of who is around you and don't force a move.

Some of my best racing is when I'm just tailing the car in-front, keeping in the draft and applying pressure until he makes a mistake. By applying pressure to the car ahead, I'm making him tense up and panic....which means I only have to wait for that 1 missed apex and then I can make my move.

You need more practice time with other cars around you and you have to learn when it's okay to lean on another car (not crash) without pushing someone off the track.

Are you on the PS3 today? I'm at home and I'd gladly join you and hopefully someone else for a race or 3

Cool sounds good, il be on tonight at 5-6pm

 

[sibbystiggy]

Stig "Open Lobbies" are a great way to learn a little extra race craft just hunt down the ones that say "Clean or kick etc etc" Or simply set a room up yourself. Back in the day its what I did basically after I was kicked from a GTP series for being I think they said "a little too keen" Nowadays I think I can pride myself on being a fair and clean racer nobody's told me any different anyway
You simply need to hang in there and stick at it you cant buy experience only time and effort will reward.👍

Wise words there man, I joined btcc cus I got bored of dominating alot in online lobbies, I didn't find it challenging anymore, I only lost a race when I didn't try to win, so I came here but going back now I think it will benefit me because it's easier to run solo but difficult to race when theres alot of other people around you, it will boost my experience and helps practice which I have been lacking cus I set laps all week and race once when it counts on thursdays so it's a good idea to go back there

 

[sibbystiggy]

Highspeed ring should be better than monza i think

High speed ring will be the time for the FFs to take to take back the advantage FRs may have on grand valley if it stays clean

 

[Ian_83]

......I joined btcc cus I got bored of dominating alot in online lobbies, I didn't find it challenging anymore, I only lost a race when I didn't try to win.....

If I'm in a random online lobby and dominating, I'll do something to even the field and give myself more of a challenge. Our favourite thing is to take a pit-stop even though it isn't required. You'd be amazed at the amount of times canyon and I have done this and still won the race or been very close to winning.

Canyon has been known to park up and give people a headstart before. Once on Monaco he gave everyone a 30 second headstart and still won the race. I came second and I couldn't understand why canyon caught me up, because I'm usually quick around Monaco....after the race I discovered that I was on the wrong tyres, sports soft instead of racing soft.

Also using a car with lower PP than everyone else can keep you on your toes quite a lot, it makes it much harder to win and being amongst the pack fighting (cleanly) for that good finish is where you learn the most.

Cool sounds good, il be on tonight at 5-6pm

I should be able to make it too. Anyone else fancy having a race? Meet in Rolo's lounge?