Kent
The Z06 didn't seem proper because of the fact that a real C5 Z06 is a monster on both paper and the track; the same goes for the M3 and M5.
Would I be out of line to disagree a little about that? Becuase well, okay I'll just say it. I haven't had that much time racing against other opponents using the Z06. However, in the few times I have gone against other opponents, maybe it's also the fact I've driven that car the most, but I've found it to be very usefull, to me anywho.
I don't know if time trails count as comparrison for telling if a car is useful or not, espically since driver wise, I'm the most familar with the Z06 C5 out of every other car (that in a sense creates a bias alone), but I've found in a lot of times when I run hot laps and comapire them, the Z06 is somewhere close to the top if not over it. Not to mention I've found it very controllable at the least with a DFP on N2's on nearly every single track, and on N3's it's a sheer dream ride (same for the 350Z when I gave that a go... I just thought to myself... where have you bene all my life
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... same for a few Australian cars as well
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... to me anyway.) around any track.
I can't bring up the exact times, but for example, Suzuka Full, where I pratice a lot on N2 spec tires, the M3 GTR, the TVR 350C and the Z06 that I tested back to back all got within 2 minutes, 26 seconds (I'll have to double check for the 350C... and by double check that means I'll have to wait untill next week becuase that's when I can come home for Thanksgiving), the NSX-R was within a second slower (2.27 range). The M5 I also tested on N2's was some 3 seconds faster, and the Ruf RGT I got on the first hot lap managed a second faster than that.
To put it simply for that, I've found the Z06, the M3 (the standard, CSL and GTR), and M5s to be monsters if put in the right hands, and one knows how to use them. But again, I haven't raced them all halfway to death in a number of battles, I can't help but feel like when I do give a go, I'll end up eating my own words (ignroing the fact it's been a while since I've grapsed a DFP controller, or even DS2...and I was only a second off my fastest time around Suzuka on a Corvette on N2 and same for the M5 during my breif time a while ago...although on LFS I'm only... only 3 seconds behind world record pace... in the past it was at least 10...).
Although a sense of bias is always apparent, I've always looked at it more so on the basis of quanity than quality. Plus... I can't help but think...
Lets just say PD was based in Ameirca, the GTR 34 is still somehow a very devestating car, what then? Oh, everyone there is an import fan?... that's not to say you're off becuase the GTR 34 is a devestating car in the right hands, Gabkicks had said something similar a few months back.
Plus well, in a small contest between me and Gabkicks, we both tuned a few cars under some rules, he had a GTR34, I had a Z06, we both had to go under similar power limits (410-420+bhp), and what have you.
From what I've found in a lot of experimenting, and same for him, is that even with a differnece in tuning and modding, both cars seam to be in a similar leauge if not the outright same.
But then again you would have reason to doubt wondering why I would compare two differnet cars on two differnet driver evaulations, even tuned, espically since on average I'm .1 to 8 seconds (be it GT4, LFS etc), either ahead or behind Gabkicks (a lot of the time behind) with few exceptions, and plus our styles are different anyway.
Well that's prob becuase at least I can say on my own account, I've tried both the GTR34 and Z06on sometimes the same day for direct comparrsion, and also the fact we sometimes try the same cars to see how it's like for more than one view.
Even stock, although I haven't tested all the GTR 34's on ever track (you know what? either this Thanksgiving or God willing Chirstmas break, I should do a thing to compare all the RX-7s, all the Skylines, all the NSX's to finally settle some crap... although some people still go on about how PD ruined the Ford GT despite users such as Scaff proving otherwise... plus I find the car controllable as well...) , at best, 3 versions on Laguna seca on N2's, stock, all of them in the 1 minute 46 second or slower range. However when I had a go with the NSX-R and the GTR, they were in the 1 minute 44 second range, the NSX just barely faster by a thousandth of a second (becuase I took more laps with the NSX-R than the Z06, I got that fast lap time with the Z06 the first time since again, I'm familar with that car the most.
To try and make sense of my non-sense, I feel although there might be a bias, regardless, I try to do my best driving the car, whatever that may be on said tires (although I'm NEVER going to use a Lancia Delta S4 on N2s....N3s or sports tires... dare I say racing tires... no way on the earth of God N2s... not after trying when I barely got into GT4 on the ring all those months ago...).
It's intresting none the less though for people's analysis wondering if there is a bias on however... but in the way I see it... I ask myself... 'is this car really that good/bad?... or am I really good?/or do I really suck?'. And if nothing else as Takumi put it...
'Winner or loser, you woun't know untill you race!'.
My two cents and I'm sure I'm off by something and forgottne something., and I can't help but feel like somehow I've offended someone... no, just saying what I think... sorry if in some way I somehow did. Maybe I should just stop and wait for a reply or something...
till later.