Civic 3000hp should be banned?

[Drevenger]

The realistic hybrids heavily outweigh the unrealistic ones, now.

Lol at this comment. Its obvious that you guys are not driving these thing offline only.
Why you think being "realistic" is ok? Some will have an unfair advantage over a certain range of PP. The balance of the game is fubar. Think about your realistic argument for a sec. I'm playing FPS games like CS, BF3 or Dust, what do you say if I wall hack you by saying its realistic, military got bunker buster bomb, how do you think folks will respond.... Kicked then Banned. Thats how you deal with hack and cheat no matter how realistic the hack is online.

Btw I think we found the Lancer :\

 

[Johnnypenso]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8159984#post8159984
All it means is that the modded cars are easy to spot. They'll fail hp regulations.
1. Set 550 PP room.
2. Tell everyone you're going to car check
3. Set hp to whatever
4. Modded cars drop out

Every room I've ever hosted was always set to Fastest First and I allowed usually 7-8 minutes of qualifying. Under your suggestion above, I will have to leave the track, and lose my qualifying time in the process. Also, in order to be safe, anyone not on track will have to be booted from the room.

Already, it's a lost opportunity to run a room the way I want to, because the burden of enforcing the true GT5 regs falls on me as the host, in an imperfect system. Again, this issue should be resolved by PD, not by me as a host, having to sacrifice the way I want to run a room.

Here is a PP list of the Hybrid cars I have so far,

*(P) "Botched/Sabotaged" Acura NSX '91 - 15,656 BHP 987pp w/15210hp
*(P) BMW M5 '08 - 1,032 BHP 619pp
*(P) Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09 - 8,536 BHP 896pp w/6771hp
(S) Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept '02 - 1,869 BHP
(S) Daihutsu Midget II D Type '98 - 1,312 BHP
(S) Daihutsu Midget II D Type '98 - 6,143 BHP
*(S) DMC DeLorean S2 '04 - 12,320 BHP 927pp w/9089hp
*(P) Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08 - 1,280 BHP 666pp
*(P) Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02 - 1,144 BHP 658pp
(P) Fiat 500 F '68 - 7,625 BHP
(P) "Invisible" Fiat 500 F '68 - 16 BHP
*(S) Ford GT '02 - 1,116 BHP 670pp
*(S) Gran Turismo Formula Gran Turismo - 2,396 BHP 984pp w/2282hp
(P) Gran Turismo PDI Racing Kart 100 - 230 BHP
(P) Gran Turismo PDI Racing Kart 100 - 375 BHP
(P) Gran Turismo PDI Racing Kart 100 - 394 BHP
(P) Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 - 102,047 BHP
(P) High End Performance G37 - 1,261 BHP
*(P) High End Performance G37 - 8,322 BHP 937pp w/7212hp
*(P) Honda Civic Type R (EK) '97 - 3,188 BHP 779pp w/3286hp
*(P) Honda CR-Z α '10 - 1,308 BHP 664pp
*(P) Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04 - 315 BHP (Drivetrain swap to FR) 518pp w/387hp
(S) Jay Leno Tank Car '03 - 44,170 BHP
*(P) Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 Superveloce '09 - 1,238 BHP 680pp
*(P) Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92 - 1,867 BHP 703pp
*(P) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07 - 3,349 BHP 556pp
*(P) "Slammed" Nissan GT-R SpecV '09 - 1,244 BHP 694pp
*(P) Nissan GT-R SpecV '09 - 6,974 BHP 708pp
*(P) Nissan GT-R SpecV '09 - 19,525 BHP 862pp
*(P) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32) '94 - 1,492 BHP 683pp
*(P) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34) '02 - 1,804 BHP 709pp
*(S) Nissan Silvia K's (S13) '91 - 587 BHP 646pp w/1188hp
*(P) Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04 - 3,554 BHP 784pp
*(P) Renault Clio Renault Sport V6 24V '00 - 728 BHP 579pp
*(P) Toyota 86 GT '12 - 578 BHP 557pp
(P) Toyota Prius G '09 - 6,160 BHP
(S) Toyota Sports 800 '65 - 552 BHP
*(S) Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00 - 604 BHP 546pp w/689hp
(S) Toyota Supra RZ '97 - 1,089 BHP
*(S) Toyota Supra RZ '97 - 1,189 BHP 622pp w/1252hp

I can see several cars there that could sneak into PP limited rooms looking perfectly normal, but having a huge power advantage.

 

[Jump_Ace]

GT5 unplayable online in 5,4,3.....


Jerome

 

[Exorcet]

Every room I've ever hosted was always set to Fastest First and I allowed usually 7-8 minutes of qualifying. Under your suggestion above, I will have to leave the track, and lose my qualifying time in the process. Also, in order to be safe, anyone not on track will have to be booted from the room.

Every room I've ever hosted has been fastest first as well. So I'd do this before setting my laps. If I had to quit a race to kick someone once, it's not a big deal either. And if someone does not comply when you tell them what you're doing, then I see no problem kicking them. The only people who would be off the track after you announced a check would be people who did not listen.

This isn't about justifying the use of these cars in rooms where they are banned, it's about combating their use.

Already, it's a lost opportunity to run a room the way I want to, because the burden of enforcing the true GT5 regs falls on me as the host, in an imperfect system. Again, this issue should be resolved by PD, not by me as a host, having to sacrifice the way I want to run a room.

Before this even started, playing how I wanted was difficult because the game lacks proper options. So I've learned how to enforce things the game does not support. This situation is basically the same.

Yes PD should step it, but the mean time I don't think throwing hands in the air and running for the hills will do any good.

I can see several cars there that could sneak into PP limited rooms looking perfectly normal, but having a huge power advantage.

Which means they're all kickable.

Draw a horizontal line anywhere on that graph. You will hit the graph at two points in all cases but one. Every car can enter any PP regulation as things stand. But in order to do so, they must stand out like a Civic would stand out in a field of F1 cars.

 

[mike_gt3]

I just looked in my replay library just in case i saved a race with the hybrid in it, and i found one!

its not the race im waiting for him on the straight, its the following race (the last time he ran before getting kicked. Nothing really impressive but we can still see him, he is less than half throttle most of the time with some full throttle burst. I can upload it on youtube if anyone want to see it.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I just looked in my replay library just in case i saved a race with the hybrid in it, and i found one!

its not the race im waiting for him on the straight, its the following race (the last time he ran before getting kicked. Nothing really impressive but we can still see him, he is less than half throttle most of the time with some full throttle burst. I can upload it on youtube if anyone want to see it.

Please do...with particular focus on his car...it'll be my go to proof that PP limitations are soon obsolete:tup:👍

 

[elston87]

I loved how much of a novelty that these hybrids are, but now it's getting ridiculous. Anywhere I go, they're roaming perfectly awesome racing lobbies, and then they come out of nowhere and mess the event up...

Oddly enough, some of the best rooms I've raced in had no restrictions on, which is really the dead-beater for me. If only people actually used the restrictions more... D:

 

[Johnnypenso]

Every room I've ever hosted has been fastest first as well. So I'd do this before setting my laps. If I had to quit a race to kick someone once, it's not a big deal either. And if someone does not comply when you tell them what you're doing, then I see no problem kicking them. The only people who would be off the track after you announced a check would be people who did not listen.

This isn't about justifying the use of these cars in rooms where they are banned, it's about combating their use.

Before this even started, playing how I wanted was difficult because the game lacks proper options. So I've learned how to enforce things the game does not support. This situation is basically the same.

Yes PD should step it, but the mean time I don't think throwing hands in the air and running for the hills will do any good.

Which means they're all kickable.

I'm not getting it obviously. You're in an open lobby. So you tell everyone to get on track...you do your checks. Everyone passes. Now you go out on the track to qualify. What about the 3, 4, 5 people that join after you go out on track, how do you police them? Answer, you can't, not without leaving the track to do so, in which case you're back to square one. This doesn't resolve anything.

Maybe throwing your hands in the air is the right answer. If PD/Sony noticed a sudden and dramatic drop in online participation maybe it'll wake them up.

 

[killerjimbag]

I'm not getting it obviously. You're in an open lobby. So you tell everyone to get on track...you do your checks. Everyone passes. Now you go out on the track to qualify. What about the 3, 4, 5 people that join after you go out on track, how do you police them? Answer, you can't, not without leaving the track to do so, in which case you're back to square one. This doesn't resolve anything.

Maybe throwing your hands in the air is the right answer. If PD/Sony noticed a sudden and dramatic drop in online participation maybe it'll wake them up.

3 2 1 gone to iRacing, Project Cars,enough of the crap. PD or Sony have to pick up their socks and act on something that is clearly not in the game.How would they like it if people starting bringing in Porches or violating license agreements for certain cars? Yeah you can bet your bottom dollar Sony PD would be all over it.Real Driving Simulator? Get out the coffin and shovel!

 

[killerjimbag]

They have now even upset the drag racers too! This is a blurb from the drag forum.

Some news for when Mazda gets back... As much I hate for this to happen but there are some slightly modified hybrids now dragging online. And how can we police this if they just put crap tunes on them and get record times or .002 off record to make themselves seem hidden? Are we gonna start doing video submissions because they are out there and people will do this... I want them patched already.

 

[GD6WRB]

the title explains it all Y must people hack and take out the fun . Does anyone agree with me?

if you were given one, i bet you wouldnt mind it at all.

 

[killerjimbag]

if you were given one, i bet you wouldnt mind it at all.

Yes I would mind it and think it's a joke.
Do you really think a *(P) Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09 - 8,536 BHP 896pp w/6771hp production car can actually tour around a real race track in real life let alone be allowed on any street in the world legally.
Yeah there is some the "Real Driving Simulator" going on there!

 

[Tornado]

Yes I would mind it and think it's a joke.
Do you really think a *(P) Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09 - 8,536 BHP 896pp w/6771hp production car

can actually tour around a real race track in real life let alone be allowed on any street in the world legally.

What does that have to do with anything?

 

[killerjimbag]

What does that have to do with anything?

Why laugh that is what the hacker/glitchers have turned that car into.
You forgot The Real Driving Simulator part.
You also might want to change your thing to having trouble getting the speed of sound out of your car now.I guess the 300 MPH doesn't equate now does it?As any glitcher wouldn't need your help.
Now that is funny

 

[Tornado]

Why laugh that is what the hacker/glitchers have turned that car into.

Because you felt the need to express your sheer outrage by... directly copy-pasting something from a list. Didn't even reword what you copied to fit the sentence you surrounded it with.

You forgot The Real Driving Simulator part.

Do we really need to go through GT5's car list and vet out every single car that wouldn't be street legal?

It's completely meaningless to this discussion.

 

[Dennisch]

(S) Daihutsu Midget II D Type '98 - 1,312 BHP
(S) Daihutsu Midget II D Type '98 - 6,143 BHP

You gotta send me one of those.

 

[watermelon punch]

You forgot The Real Driving Simulator part.

Do we really need to go through GT5's car list and vet out every single car that wouldn't be street legal?

Wait a minute...
Real driving = Street legal
only?


Does not compute.

 

[Tornado]

Wait a minute...
Real driving = Street legal
only?


Does not compute.

I don't know either. He was the one who brought it up. Ask him.

 

[killerjimbag]

Because you felt the need to express your sheer outrage by... directly copy-pasting something from a list. Didn't even reword what you copied to fit the sentence you surrounded it with.


Do we really need to go through GT5's car list and vet out every single car that wouldn't be street legal?

It's completely meaningless to this discussion.

What are you a wordsmith? Did I steal someones intellectual property?
Have I plagiarized someone or fat fingered my phone perhaps?
I think you should go work on getting faster than 300 MPH or no one will need your help.Oops they don't anymore.
Speaking of what the hell is that mind trying to explain this one below!

Totally The Gallery Of Myself-Drop a Comment-Updated Occasionally

 

[Tornado]

What are you a wordsmith? Did I steal someones intellectual property?
Have I plagiarized someone or fat fingered my phone perhaps?

One doesn't really need to be a wordsmith to find humor in that sentence, which is all I expressed before asking you the question that I actually responded to you to query about. Perhaps if you had toned down the rage a tad the post wouldn't have been so entertaining.

I think you should go work on getting faster than 300 MPH or no one will need your help.Oops they don't anymore.
Speaking of what the hell is that mind trying to explain this one below!

Totally The Gallery Of Myself-Drop a Comment-Updated Occasionally

As clever as this attempt to insult me over a signature that I haven't changed in half a decade is... what exactly does that mean in regards to a car needing to be street legal for it to not be at odds with "The Real Driving Simulator"?

 

[killerjimbag]

One doesn't really need to be a wordsmith to find humor in that sentence, which is all I expressed before asking you the question that I actually responded to you to query about. Perhaps if you had toned down the rage a tad the post wouldn't have been so entertaining.



As clever as this attempt to insult me over a signature that I haven't changed in half a decade is... what exactly does that mean in regards to a car needing to be street legal for it to not be at odds with "The Real Driving Simulator"?

Ten years ago was so Glitchin Modding GT4,damn it's like dejavu all over again.

 

[Tornado]

I don't even have signatures turned on, so it's kind of interesting being given a play-by-play of what mine means to someone else.


But:

What does that have to do with anything?

Do we really need to go through GT5's car list and vet out every single car that wouldn't be street legal?

what exactly does that mean in regards to a car needing to be street legal for it to not be at odds with "The Real Driving Simulator"?

So... nothing, then?

 

[killerjimbag]

So... nothing, then?

No I am going to play iRacing and let the ones that want to hack/modify and generally turn something into a glorified Modnation racers game go at it .
No insults sorry you took it that way,I hope to god you still don't wear acid wash jeans from 5 years ago.Time to change them also.

 

[mike_gt3]

Please do...with particular focus on his car...it'll be my go to proof that PP limitations are soon obsolete:tup:👍

I will upload the video in few minutes, should be able to post tomorow before going to work.

 

[Nexviator79]

I'm kinda curoius. The game save file or the program that runs the game or the PS3 aren't corrupted with the alterations to the code?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I'm kinda curoius. The game save file or the program that runs the game or the PS3 aren't corrupted with the alterations to the code?

The game save is decrypted first, then edited, after changes made, the save is encrypted again, so the PS3/game will recognize the save as legit file. The decrypt/encrypt tool is available on the net for free.

 

[Nexviator79]

The game save is decrypted first, then edited, after changes made, the save is encrypted again, so the PS3/game will recognize the save as legit file. The decrypt/encrypt tool is available on the net for free.

Ok, thanks for the quick response.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

600 HP Mazda RX7 FC, is a dream come true. Hope it's premium.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I will upload the video in few minutes, should be able to post tomorow before going to work.

Thanks Mike...👍

 

[Aquarelle]

I think the main thing that is bothering me about the hybrids isn't the fact they exist, but the fact people are beginning to use them as an excuse for losing.

I've been accused of hacking and been "Reported to sony" when... I've never so much as looked at any of these boosted cars.

The more widespread these cars get the more this has become prominent, people with fragile egos are clinging to the hackers claim just like people do in shooters shouting "Aimbot" loud enough for my eardrums to eject in protest.