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CNET.com Poll: Forza 3 vs. Gran Turismo 5
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Passion has alot to do with cars, if it wasn't for passion we'd all be driving Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys, there would be no point for supercars and sports cars. and for me, im not a gaming enthusiast, im a car enthusiast.. a game lover would look at these two games and say they are both great, i would look at them and would want the one that was developed with the most care and passion, because I'd know the creator cares about the cars as much as I do and not about cheesy poles on CNET.
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I have a huge passion for cars, I've spent hundreds of hours over the past year designing and building an aerodynamics package for an open wheeler race car, probably more time than I spent either studying or playing games. But I have a passion for the *cars*, not the people who developed a game that may include such cars
The passion and care of the creator is secondry to actually having a good game, even though they may have put their heart and soul into it, doesn't mean their passion is in line with mine. At the end of the day, you put the disc in your console, boot it up, sit down to play, and have no tears about the harsh words said by the developers back before the games even came out.Awwwww, diddums. You think it's stupid because you actually voted, and saw that GT5 was not leading the poll. Truly pathetic attitude.
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Looks like they're doing a good job of guaranteeing they don't get new fans.
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Actually, you might be surprised. When I first fired up GT4, I was kind of lost in the world map of GT Mode, and I wondered, "Okay, Kazunori, what did you create here, and what is this new vision all about?" And when I was gritting my teeth over the dinkmobile and truck races, I thought, "Well, if it mattered enough that Kaz put it in a game this wonderful, how can I refuse?" And similar things when I play Prologue.
And IF I buy that other game now, you know what's going to be in the back of my mind? A thief ripping off a Japanese guy for a million dollars, and then complaining when he has to invest it to earn a little more.
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I shall repeat what I said on the forza forums on this thread.
The behaviour of the Turn 10 community manager is beginning to backfire. Obviously the reason for wanting FM3 to win the poll is to increase the popularity. However news is spreading fast about Turn 10 antics and they will recieve far more bad publicity than good. I bet they are now regretting the offer of a unicorn car because aside from the forza forums there is general distaste at their behaviour and rightfully so.
What has me curious is are they really that insecure about their product or do they know something about GT5 that we don't!
Like I have said in both forums im planning on owning both games but Turn 10s antics have left a sour taste in my mouth and if this marketing strategy continues I may think twice about buying FM3.
The behaviour of the Turn 10 community manager is beginning to backfire. Obviously the reason for wanting FM3 to win the poll is to increase the popularity. However news is spreading fast about Turn 10 antics and they will recieve far more bad publicity than good. I bet they are now regretting the offer of a unicorn car because aside from the forza forums there is general distaste at their behaviour and rightfully so.
What has me curious is are they really that insecure about their product or do they know something about GT5 that we don't!
Like I have said in both forums im planning on owning both games but Turn 10s antics have left a sour taste in my mouth and if this marketing strategy continues I may think twice about buying FM3.
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I really dont think its gonna hurt them that much. The size of the community that cares about Turn 10's business practices is tiny compared to their actual market base. They might lose a few GT fans by doing what they've done, but potentially they could gain a whole lot more from a wider audience.
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They probably don't know anything we don't.. Thats just how awesome GT games are.. Forza is just a game for Turn 10.. GT is Kaz's and probably his team's life.. This can be seen in the final products.
What would make it even better is if they tried to back out of giving the cars out.. And then the Forza kiddies get all PO'd.. more backfiring..
Sounds like Turn 10 needs a tune up..
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Really, you've played GT5 and Forza 3? Can I have a copy to play too?
I think the poster is referring to previous Gran Turismo titles. If so then the comments are spot on.
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What really bugs me is when the Forza fanboys slag of Gran Turismo's physics as they compare two games not even on the same generation of console. They are mostly comparing Forza 2 vs Gran Turismo 4 thats just unfair.
I was a firm believer that Forza was the game for me when i played Forza 2, it was better than Gran Turismo 4 (in my opinion) because i enjoyed the driving as arcadey as it was i could drive a rear wheel drive car the way it should be driven.
Online play in a racing game was new to me as before i had the 360 i never had online play - it blew me away (not literally) as there was so much fun to be had, especially being able to create a unique car then sell it on the auction house - or make a car for my friends and gift it, or help a friend out by 'gifting' a car needed that they didnt have. playing online was a blast as you could have serious races then retire to a lobby with a few friends and do what you like - we used try and synchronise drift and take pictures and video's also who could make the funniest looking slow car and then we'd race. writing things on the cars to slag each other off was also funny. Ramming each other off the track, just hours of fun.
Then i played Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and WOW - the graphics were breathtaking and PD had finally listened to players like myself who complaned about the driving physics, they are actually amazing ! Far better than Forza 2 but i still cant compare the two games as Gran Turismo offers me a demo which is still about serious racing and Forza 2 is more of a fun game with fun physics.
I will be buying both games, i'm slowly leaning back to Gran Turismo as my favourite as this time it seems like they have listened as far as driving physics, damage and the dumb AI issue, i'm just very anxious to see if there is an auction house and gifting facility in GT5 as it would make it all worth while.
Yes i love Forza, i hate what happened at E3 though it was actually worse for people like myself who love both games as it was actually quite insulting as i would call alot of what was said selfish and not a good marketing strategy. From what i have seen Gran Turismo has the best graphics and im 99% sure will have more cars and tracks. And im pretty sure if sales figures rule which game wins the it will be Gran Turismo that will be the definitive racing game of this generation.
At the moment im playing GT5P and loving it Forza 2 has sat in my drawer since i got 970 / 1000 achievement points and i got bored when my mates stopped playing it.
I voted Gran Turismo on the poll, i will buy both games but i believe Gran Turismo will win the sales figures war.
All i can say is - i'm looking forward to the two best racing games that will have ever been created and i will definately put alot of hours into both games!
I was a firm believer that Forza was the game for me when i played Forza 2, it was better than Gran Turismo 4 (in my opinion) because i enjoyed the driving as arcadey as it was i could drive a rear wheel drive car the way it should be driven.
Online play in a racing game was new to me as before i had the 360 i never had online play - it blew me away (not literally) as there was so much fun to be had, especially being able to create a unique car then sell it on the auction house - or make a car for my friends and gift it, or help a friend out by 'gifting' a car needed that they didnt have. playing online was a blast as you could have serious races then retire to a lobby with a few friends and do what you like - we used try and synchronise drift and take pictures and video's also who could make the funniest looking slow car and then we'd race. writing things on the cars to slag each other off was also funny. Ramming each other off the track, just hours of fun.
Then i played Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and WOW - the graphics were breathtaking and PD had finally listened to players like myself who complaned about the driving physics, they are actually amazing ! Far better than Forza 2 but i still cant compare the two games as Gran Turismo offers me a demo which is still about serious racing and Forza 2 is more of a fun game with fun physics.
I will be buying both games, i'm slowly leaning back to Gran Turismo as my favourite as this time it seems like they have listened as far as driving physics, damage and the dumb AI issue, i'm just very anxious to see if there is an auction house and gifting facility in GT5 as it would make it all worth while.
Yes i love Forza, i hate what happened at E3 though it was actually worse for people like myself who love both games as it was actually quite insulting as i would call alot of what was said selfish and not a good marketing strategy. From what i have seen Gran Turismo has the best graphics and im 99% sure will have more cars and tracks. And im pretty sure if sales figures rule which game wins the it will be Gran Turismo that will be the definitive racing game of this generation.
At the moment im playing GT5P and loving it Forza 2 has sat in my drawer since i got 970 / 1000 achievement points and i got bored when my mates stopped playing it.
I voted Gran Turismo on the poll, i will buy both games but i believe Gran Turismo will win the sales figures war.
All i can say is - i'm looking forward to the two best racing games that will have ever been created and i will definately put alot of hours into both games!
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Based on what I learned during my international management courses, I think it's just a matter of cultural differences. In general American companies are more in to your face when they want to promote a new product. They bring it as it's the best thing on the market, beats the competition, they highlight it's unique features and try to convince potential customers that it's exactly what they need. They are very expressive.
Japanese are the complete opposite. They are passionate about their product and are very dedicated. They're afraid to lose face and don't want to disappoint others, hence the famous delays of all the GT games. Big talk isn't accepted in their culture. They have a saying 'only dead fish have an open mouth', comparable to the English 'empty vessels make the most noise'. I think that's one of the reasons Kazunori negates Turn 10's accomplishments, simply because he condemns their attitude.
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Whilst Japanese culture may not be into "big talk" as you say, dont mistake that for not being arrogant. Its just the American way to be loudly arrogant, its the Japanese way to be more quietly arrogant (hell, even the British way is more of a quiet arrogance
What has arrogance got to do with it? I'm only trying to explain why Kazunori might negate Forza.
Arrogance is present in all cultures, since it's related to being human.
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PD probably hate Turn 10's guts behind closed doors. That's the better way in my opinion.
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Agreed. PS3 owners will get GT5 and 360 owners will get Forza 3. Very few will go out and buy a second console just for one game.
Totally pointless pole for fanboys. The educated people out there will ignore this pole and the comments and enjoy which ever game they decide to buy.
they do.. one of the lead developers baught a 3000GT because it was good in GT1 and had all sorts of problems with it.. as you would lol.. so hes now on a huge anti GT vendeta..
personaly i think your abit silly if you use a game to choose your sports car of choice..
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Where as I couldn't care less if their hatred is behind closed doors or in the open
I'm probably the sort of person they're advertising to, I currently dont own either console and only plan on buying 1 of them, and it will be only for Forza or GT5 because of the fact I'm not really interested in any other games on consoles. But that said, I'm also the sort of person who takes these polls and Forza's devs less seriously than, well, apparently half the people on this forum
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one of the worst things you can do is not acknowledge someone's existence.
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Wasn't it one of the devs who posted it? Personally I'd love it if a PD dev came here and posted something.... anything.... just a "hello" would be nice
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If you want to enjoy Forza 3 but don't think that the developers deserve your money, you could just pick up a used copy instead. Granted, you couldn't get it on day one, but if the way the developers behave is that important...
I'm personally not worried about it. I found the poll thing a little annoying, but I don't think it is that big of a deal. If the Forza team is that worried about losing an internet poll, let them give an 'incentive' to vote, but realize that this means the poll will not reflect reality, even though it would not have to begin with. When the games are finally released, the good and the bad of both games will become as clear as day, and people will forget this poll even existed.
Wasn't it one of the devs who posted it? Personally I'd love it if a PD dev came here and posted something.... anything.... just a "hello" would be nice
I love that DEVs come out on Forza forums and really listen to people and anwser questions and take ideas.
PD should hire 5 people to do the same. The heck we pay them for by buying the games anyways?
But going there and making a silly thread form C-NET it's just so damn stupid.
I would understand the DEV came over, and say VOTE for GAME OF THE YEAR, or RACING GAME OF THE YEAR, now that is different.
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