Complete American Car List
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- Jordan8262
Uhh... That version of the 3.8 has been around a LONG time. In '85 In was introduced into the new FWD Regency 98 and Electra/Park Ave. It offered Sequential fuel injection, and a distributor-less ignition. It wasnt a power house, with around 150-160 hp and around 200 ft lbs of torque. This was essentially the series one, which ran all the way until '94-'96. The S/C version came around '91-'92 and had 205hp. The Series II replaced it, with N/A versions having 200-205hp, and the S/C versions having 240hp. This was obviously different from the 3.8 that was used in the Grand National. That engine has old, old roots.Jmac279
There's kinda no point here, other then that how old an engine or engine design is is kind of a moot point. Also keep in consideration that these two engines have 2 very different purposes in life. The F22 lives in a sports car, and the 3800 was largely used for everyday cars, that were not meant to be on a track or to be fast. Thats not saying that the 3800 doesnt have potential, because it does, but any engine does really, just depends on the size of your imagination and your wallet.
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Zardoz
Why did you forgot the Belgian one?
You know those 62 American cars are still more than in any other sim I can think of, including Forza based on the last official car list, and that is a game made by an American developer for an American audience on an American console. The percentage of American cars in GT4 may be tiny, but the actual quantity isn't.
It just seems that Japanese automakers are more supportive of video games and/or cheaper to license.
It just seems that Japanese automakers are more supportive of video games and/or cheaper to license.
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Zardoz
That Chaparral 2J "sucker"... I remember it well.
Jim Hall, the GENIUS car designer, was told that He couldn't use the movable wing, that He invented, on his cars anymore. He said that "blowed" so he invented the "sucker"! In qualifying on short tracks it would beat the other cars by SECONDS per lap. It whooped um.
The "sucker" entered 3 races. In 2 of the three races gravel Mysteriously appeared on the track just as the race started which fried the "sucker" fans.
Creatons! :
The other Chaparral in the Game, the 2D, won at Nurburgring.
Google "Jim Hall Chaparral". Great stuff.
As for the Nips, Google "Hiroshima and Nagasaki" 💡 💡
Some of you guys think the number of American cars justifies everything. The ratio of cars from different countries(in this case, American)to the Japanese cars is only half of it. The rest is simply about misrepresentation. Honestly, years from now what do you think is going to be a better representation of American ingenuity...a Pontiac Sunfire or Corvette C6 Z06? A Pontiac Vibe or Mustang Cobra GT? Its just not the numbers, its the dumb choices they made. Regardless this game is going to be the best simulator to date......but it could have been even better if they had made a few simple changes. As for the licensing red tape, i don't know anything about that, maybe that could have had something to do with it.
To be honest with you, i dont care if the American Car number was half that, aslong as they were the right ones.........
To be honest with you, i dont care if the American Car number was half that, aslong as they were the right ones.........
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I want to know why the GTX and Roadrunner are not in. I remember hearing awhile ago that every car in GT2 would return in GT4 and then some. did I missread or something? Even still why arent they in?
And I Agree 100% with Cluns and Zardoz. but me and my DFP will have many a good time With GT4 tunneling. but after playing Forza today that game isnt really too shabby...It needs to run at 60FPS rather then 30, but they are trying to make it right (hence the delays)
Maybe we'll all see something cool and unexpected come out of GTOnline in 2021.
And I Agree 100% with Cluns and Zardoz. but me and my DFP will have many a good time With GT4 tunneling. but after playing Forza today that game isnt really too shabby...It needs to run at 60FPS rather then 30, but they are trying to make it right (hence the delays)
Maybe we'll all see something cool and unexpected come out of GTOnline in 2021.
Cluns1414
But the fact is that most people are indeed complaining about the number of American cars, rather than which ones are there. As for precise car selection, 90% of complaints there are talking about only one car.. the C6.
As for American inginuity.. you might have picked some better examples... The 'Vette C6 with it's leaf-spring suspension... the Mustang GT with it's live rear axle. They're nice cars and all, but it would have been nice to at least use twentieth-century technology. They had leaf-springs and live axles a thousand years ago.
It's tradition and who cares if the C6 Z06 uses leaf springs when it can pull the same numbers as a Ferrari F430. People can bash the leaf springs all they want, but it doesn't stop the fact that this car out handles and out preforms any car in its price range. Even Hammond of Top Gear known for his brute honesty says that leaf springs are out dated, but then he goes on to say that it "corners like a dream".
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Ha, I wasn't really countering your argument, just trying to clarify. I even stated that there wasnt really a point to my post, other then an engines age or design shouldnt really matter.Jmac279So you counter my argument by basically saying everything I just said ?
That wasn't my point. He listed the C6 as an example of "inginuity", when it clearly has components that are anything but new.
I just don't see why you guys are making such a fuss about ONE car. You guys seem so pissed about ONE car that you're completely forgetting the seven hundred and twenty-two cars that ARE in the game.
I just don't see why you guys are making such a fuss about ONE car. You guys seem so pissed about ONE car that you're completely forgetting the seven hundred and twenty-two cars that ARE in the game.
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As far as I know, the C6 ZO6 isn't even out yet ...Cluns1414
Proof ?
http://www.chevrolet.com/m/corvette/prelaunch/corHero.pdf
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The leaf springs have been researched and redone over the years so it may not be 20 year old or older technologly. It could be just fine springs. And what is the big deal about one car and we're talking about real-life cars that dont haveanything to do with the game
Jedi2016
....And you see, thats exactly what i was talking about. Numbers don't justify everything. Just because there are 700 cars in the game, doesn't mean your going to bother driving every single one of them. Are you really going to bother racing an s600 or a motorized carridge, or any other extremely underpowerd primitive cars for fun. This is suppose to be an encyleopedia yes, but its a game first and games are ment to be fun. This game will be fun, but i doesn't mean every car is worth driving.
And as for that ONE car, the fact is, there's no reason that ONE car shouldn't be included. Epecially when they wasted disk space on other seemingly useless cars. All in all, its just a game and im not going to get all emotional over it.
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Well, I'm happy with the car list alright.
The extra cars in PAL-version (and NTSC version) are nice additions too.
Yes, maybe they could add another load of cars, but when will it gonna end?
They cannot please everyone. There will always be cars missing. So live with it, caus complaining will not help. PD will not take the game back for putting YOUR car in.
Here's an idea. Want your car in the game? Send your vehicle to the offices of PD and maybe, just maybe they want to add it in the game (if there are no licensing problems of course...)
The extra cars in PAL-version (and NTSC version) are nice additions too.
Yes, maybe they could add another load of cars, but when will it gonna end?
They cannot please everyone. There will always be cars missing. So live with it, caus complaining will not help. PD will not take the game back for putting YOUR car in.
Here's an idea. Want your car in the game? Send your vehicle to the offices of PD and maybe, just maybe they want to add it in the game (if there are no licensing problems of course...)
Cluns1414
Hell, yeah, I will. I'll probably be driving these so-called "underpowered" cars more than I will the race cars. There's more to driving than brute power, you know. And not everyone is going to be driving only the fastest cars in the game. Fact is, of all the cars in my garage (my current "wish list" has around 150), maybe one or two will have ANY tuning done to them. I have very little interest in driving the Super-Ultra-Mega-Lightning version of an otherwise normal road car. I mean, what's the point? After dumping a hundred thousand credits into a car, it's not even the same car anymore. So you're not really driving a Skyline or a Mustang.. you're driving a souped-up race car that just happens to look like a Skyline or Mustang. What's the fun in that? Just give me the stock version, I'll be happy.
yes im quoting myself
No one is going to go through all that trouble. Like i said its just a game, and theres always GT5.
That was just an example buddy, theres bound to be several cars in there that you won't give a flying flip about. Never the less i already have this game on reserve.
Oh and as for the tuning, who said anything about that.......i really dont like altering engines either, maybe suspension, but thats about it. Cars like the NSX, s2000, DC2 already fast on there on merit.
No one is going to go through all that trouble. Like i said its just a game, and theres always GT5.
Jedi2016
That was just an example buddy, theres bound to be several cars in there that you won't give a flying flip about. Never the less i already have this game on reserve.
Oh and as for the tuning, who said anything about that.......i really dont like altering engines either, maybe suspension, but thats about it. Cars like the NSX, s2000, DC2 already fast on there on merit.
Jedi2016
The mustang uses a live axle to please the aftermarket and the drag racing scene. Drag racing an IRS isn't that easy (from a mechanical stand point). People would be retro-fitting live axles to it if it didn't.
Why get bent out of shape about two leaf springs mounted to either control arm? It's not your typical leaf spring suspention.
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They had a 5.7 liter DOHC V8 in the ZR-1 that was widely praised ... But because of the high cost to produce the engine (thus lower profits), the C5 performance Corvette (Z06) went back to a more traditional Pushrod engine ...Onlyzone
At the time, the 405 hp ZR-1 was TWICE the price of the standard 330 hp C4 ($31,969 MSRP for standard C4 ... $63,662 MSRP for the ZR-1) ...
The C6 Corvette Z06 is expected to be around $62,500 when it's released this fall (source: Car & Driver) while the standard C6 carries an MSRP of $44,510 ...
