COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

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Barra333
Just putting it out there... there will be a spike in cases after the mask mandate drops, especially since it is right after March break when everyone will be travelling all over the place.
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No amount of fear mongering is going to sway my opinion. This has to end.
 
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Barra333
Call it what you want - the benefit/inconvenience ratio of a mask is by far the best of any of the public health restrictions (masks/closures/capacity limits etc) and I don't understand the desperate need to get rid of them.

Saying 'it has to end' doesn't make the virus go away.
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Wearing masks and going in a perpetual state of lockdowns doesn’t make the virus go away either. Keep it on if you want, most people are done with the ******** and double standards with this pandemic.
 
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Veinz
Wearing masks and going in a perpetual state of lockdowns doesn’t make the virus go away either. Keep it on if you want, most people are done with the ******** and double standards with this pandemic.
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EVERYONE IS DONE WITH THE PANDEMIC. But saying it does not make it go away. And for what it's worth, I will be wearing a mask to go into shops etc for the foreseeable future and will be asking my kid in grade one to do so for a few weeks after March break and covid has rattled through everyone that went to Florida to get it.
 
Veinz
most people are done with the ******** and double standards with this pandemic.
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Actually the pandemic, for the time being, is done with us. That's why people are taking it easy:

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Barra333
Call it what you want - the benefit/inconvenience ratio of a mask is by far the best of any of the public health restrictions (masks/closures/capacity limits etc) and I don't understand the desperate need to get rid of them.

Saying 'it has to end' doesn't make the virus go away.
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It will never go away though. It'll just become another sickness that they'll recommend a yearly booster for like the flu.
 
Veinz
Whatever, live in fear. I don’t care.
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It isn't living in fear, it's being realistic. COVID isn't minor by any metric and while you can certainly relax precautions right now, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't still be in tune with what's going on. Factual data is important and that's what we should be basing things on. Looking at the data right now shows that the virus is currently in a lower state of transmission and cases are down. That's a good thing and means you can likely get back to some sense of normalcy. However, SARS-CoV-2 is still a new virus in humans and there's still a high probability of mutation which could lead to another spike.

When these politicians blanketly try to end mask mandates forever, they're being idiotic and reckless. Mask mandates can end for the time being until we see what's going to happen. However, if a new mutation is discovered that shows increased transmission and immunity evasion, they should absolutely be put back into place.

Look, COVID sucks. The pandemic sucks. I get it and I'm over it too. Hell, I've been sick with COVID for over a month and I can't even do basic housework without getting so winded and tired that I need to take a nap among other lingering effects. But at the end of the day, a virus doesn't give a single damn about what you, me, a politician, or your crazy uncle Bill on Facebook thinks.
 
Joey D
It isn't living in fear, it's being realistic. COVID isn't minor by any metric and while you can certainly relax precautions right now, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't still be in tune with what's going on. Factual data is important and that's what we should be basing things on. Looking at the data right now shows that the virus is currently in a lower state of transmission and cases are down. That's a good thing and means you can likely get back to some sense of normalcy. However, SARS-CoV-2 is still a new virus in humans and there's still a high probability of mutation which could lead to another spike.

When these politicians blanketly try to end mask mandates forever, they're being idiotic and reckless. Mask mandates can end for the time being until we see what's going to happen. However, if a new mutation is discovered that shows increased transmission and immunity evasion, they should absolutely be put back into place.

Look, COVID sucks. The pandemic sucks. I get it and I'm over it too. Hell, I've been sick with COVID for over a month and I can't even do basic housework without getting so winded and tired that I need to take a nap among other lingering effects. But at the end of the day, a virus doesn't give a single damn about what you, me, a politician, or your crazy uncle Bill on Facebook thinks.
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It's pretty difficult to lessen the effect of a virus that in 3 years managed to kill the same amount of people as Jews perished in the Holocaust over a longer time period.
 
Seems like Deltacron has popped up again.
Now saying 52 people have it in the UK and US.
It's about that time where a new variant comes along to scare us all again and make us go back into the deep dark depths of restrictions again.

As much as I want this to be over and not hear how new variant comes along or something. I mean do we hear new variants of the flu? Cold? Anything that is considered endemic?

I just want to go to places where you don't need to have a mask, don't need to show proof of vaccination, don't need a PCR test.
 
6,020,000 dead, including 7,713 just two days ago. Those numbers don't take into account people who survive but have long term health issues from Long Covid to tracheotomies to any number of other debilitating long term illnesses. But sure, you can say I'm living in fear because I take the entirely realistic precaution of wearing a mask in public.
 
Populuxe
6,020,000 dead, including 7,713 just two days ago. Those numbers don't take into account people who survive but have long term health issues from Long Covid to tracheotomies to any number of other debilitating long term illnesses. But sure, you can say I'm living in fear because I take the entirely realistic precaution of wearing a mask in public.
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I'm interested in the stats that show how many of those deaths are not vaccinated, or had other health issues prior to getting COVID.
 
TSA just announced another month of masks on airplanes. citing CDC saying that due to transmission in the community still at a high level we will review next month on putting implementations in for fully vaccinated travelers.
However another CDC recommending say that if you live in a low/moderate risk for covid you don't need to have masks in indoor public places, in which 90% of the US are listed in.

92 republicans have sent letter to TSA to revoke the new mandate and let it expire on the 18th.
 
TJ13
Really?
For the past 2 years I haven't heard anything about the Flu.

All I hear about the flu is Influenza A or Influenza B.
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Influenza A and B are the types, there are strains and subtypes that differentiate them.

This is how the CDC shows the naming convention:
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So while we know about Influenza A, B, C, and D, there are a number of strains and subtypes that circulate, mutate, and that humans get infected with. To liken it to COVID, we have SARS-CoV-2, but then there are different variants (Delta, Omicron, etc.), and then sub-types (BA.2).

I don't fully understand all of it though, but someone who has better knowledge of this kind of stuff like @Touring Mars likely knows better.
 
TJ13
Really?
For the past 2 years I haven't heard anything about the Flu.
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For the past 2 years the flu has been absolutely decimated by mask-wearing and social distancing. COVID is simply that much more transmissible than flu. Our precautions that slowed covid were wildly effective against flu.

That being said, the latest flu strains are still expected to return as people ease up on precautions.
 
Wasn't coronavirus and influenza coinfection a thing for a time? I recall flinching at the tortured portmanteau "flurona."
 
TexRex
Wasn't coronavirus and influenza coinfection a thing for a time? I recall flinching at the tortured portmanteau "flurona."
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Yes, but flu infection rates have been way down. Estimates for US flu deaths this season are between 1k and 4k. It's usually 5-10 times that number.
 
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Danoff
Yes, but flu infection rates have been way down. Estimates for US flu deaths this season are between 1k and 4k. It's usually 5-10 times that number.
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Oh, no doubt, and that wasn't intended as any kind of rebuttal to the notion that flu rates have decreased as a result of measures to decrease the rate of Covid. And for what it's worth, I realize coinfection was itself exceedingly uncommon.

For my part, the worst I've felt in the past two years unrelated to seasonal and pet allergies has been vaccine response, which was minimal. I don't enjoy having a cold or the flu, and masking is a hilariously minor inconvenience, so I will continue taking said protective measure in public for the foreseeable future regardless of Covid rates. I'm simultaneously surprised and not that people are so fragile when it comes to masking.
 
Joey D
I don't fully understand all of it though, but someone who has better knowledge of this kind of stuff like @Touring Mars likely knows better.
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Nope, my understanding is the exact same as yours... all I can add to what you've already said is that flu is so common that there's nowhere near as much information readily made available in the public domain/news about what strains, variants etc. that are knocking about until there is a "bad flu season", which of course can be pretty much any winter. Unlike influenza, however, bad COVID seasons are not actually very seasonal at all and happen when and wherever, and probably will continue to do so for some time.

I expect the next flu season to be a very bad one, not least because 'natural immunity' to flu will have dropped significantly thanks to the measures taken to prevent SARS-CoV-2 transmission, which in turn has reduced all respiratory virus transmission, even to the extent of virtually knocking out the last couple of flu seasons altogether. But as influenza is endemic, it will certainly be back, as will a bunch of other common viruses that may benefit from our lack of normal exposure to them.

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