CREDIT GRIND - WTC 600 Tokyo Express - Glitches are Dead.

[Grimm6Jack]

This is a great time !!!
Did you try on the 6th gear all along the race and especially during the straight? Also I drive in the middle lane / on the left before to brake.
Joystick sensitivity -2 also may help in the straight. And I don’t have all the assists (GSA turned off).

I always reach 530 Km/h at the end of the straight during the 12 laps. I have difficulties with these stupid AI cars also, they drive me so crazy that I want to hurt them after few laps…

Tried yes, didn't make much of a difference.

As for the people talking about braking zones, the first corner try taking it at about 140+ kph so that the downforce can kick in. The 2nd corner is flatout, but if you are not confident, you can lift a bit.

The chicane in the middle can be taken flat-out but I wouldn't try it... Just brake a bit and take it at about 340 kph or something. Anymore and due to the fast left-right inputs that you do, the car suffers massive oversteer.

The right hander just before the left hander before the small straight that leads to the hairpin I also don't take it flat-out, its too narrow to risk taking it flat-out.

For the hairpin:
1st lap: Brake at just before the 200m mark.
2nd lap: Brake about the middle between the 150 and 200m mark.
3rd lap and beyond: Brake at just before the 150m mark.
For all of these try to turn very early to hit the apex and avoid the damp part of the turn which is the outside.


EDIT: The new sub-17 run I've uploaded on YT and put it on the OP.

 

[05XR8]

Completing all 12 laps without a penalty AND without slightly touching a wall or another car that almost on purpose gets in your way IMO is way more than just "medium hard". I've done like over 20 runs already (and I'm not counting the amount of retries I do when I make mistakes in the first 1-2 laps lol) and not a single time was I able to get by without a penalty or receiving damage by the tiniest touch.

1 hour = 60 minutes
I can do it in 17:30 minutes (potentially sub 17) but add another 15 seconds for restart, and lets make it 18 for convenience:

60 / 18 = 3,33

3,33 x 825k = 2.750.000

If it's an alien who can do all that in just 17 minutes or whereabouts, 60 / 17 = ~3.52 - 3.52 x 825k = ~2.900.000

I posted an average of 2.800.000. No false advertising here my friend. 😏

I do FM1 all the time but have the car in 7th gear.

I tried to do it at high RPM (5th or 6th gear) in other runs and it barely changes anything, or rather, its actually worse for me.


Also I should mention here because I thought it was funny, after I got the penalty (11th lap) I was a bit mad and drove like I didn't care anymore just to finish the race.
... And I got the fastest lap at 1:19 with the tyres in their worst condition in the final lap. So I potentially can aim even at sub 16:45 or something.

I was kidding, but 18 minutes per race only allows three races in one hour. 17 minutes per race still allows three races per hour. To do four races per hour, a player needs to do a time of 15 minutes. Also, to add time for restart, it would be a bit more. Still, only three races per hour. We can’t do 3.3 races per hour. Only three. Hence, 2,475,000. Starting a fourth race, takes a player over time to achieve 3,300,000/4 races.
The Alien can only do three races. In one hour. The extra time left over from that hour, is too short to complete another race. That means, even the Alien can only do 2,475,000 per hour. That’s all I’m saying. Counting a half race, goes past one hour.
Unless, I’m doing old math and there’s some new math I’m not aware of?

Edit: Excuse me. I mean to say a third of the race. We can’t do a third of a race to make up the average.
17 minutes per race x three races = 51 minutes. Unless a player can complete a race in 9 minutes, the maximum is 2,475,000 per hour.

 

[Kaiserben]

Something i do on the straight too that may have an impact on the stability : full throttle 100% until i hit the brake, I never ever release my foot from the pedal.

The real issue in this race are not the corners but the other cars

I will try your advise for the 2nd corner, I was trying to get in the same speed range as the first one.

 

[The OG]

yes i realize what you meant. And you're out of your mind if you think Le Mans is harder than the glitched Tomahawk on Tokyo. Tomahawk on Tokyo is a genuine challenge. Le Mans you can do in your sleep.

Tomahawk is a challenge in what way by not hitting the walls and getting penalties? The race is not even competitive... you win by 3 laps by the end of the race...

 

[hamishl]

I was kidding, but 18 minutes per race only allows three races in one hour. 17 minutes per race still allows three races per hour. To do four races per hour, a player needs to do a time of 15 minutes. Also, to add time for restart, it would be a bit more. Still, only three races per hour. We can’t do 3.3 races per hour. Only three. Hence, 2,475,000. Starting a fourth race, takes a player over time to achieve 3,300,000/4 races.
The Alien can only do three races. In one hour. The extra time left over from that hour, is too short to complete another race. That means, even the Alien can only do 2,475,000 per hour. That’s all I’m saying. Counting a half race, goes past one hour.
Unless, I’m doing old math and there’s some new math I’m not aware of?

Edit: Excuse me. I mean to say a third of the race. We can’t do a third of a race to make up the average.
17 minutes per race x three races = 51 minutes. Unless a player can complete a race in 9 minutes, the maximum is 2,475,000 per hour.

I think what everyone means to say when they put up numbers like that is 2.8m per hour of driving time. So if you sat in front of your TV for a day with the sole intention of making as many credits as possible, this would maximise your return.

If you only get to play for an hour, then yes, you won't make that much, but if you want to know which race will give you the most credits for the least amount of driving time (which is good for me - I like to start with one grind race then drive cars I find fun that don't pay a lot) then credits per hour of driving will show you the best way to do that

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I was kidding, but 18 minutes per race only allows three races in one hour. 17 minutes per race still allows three races per hour. To do four races per hour, a player needs to do a time of 15 minutes. Also, to add time for restart, it would be a bit more. Still, only three races per hour. We can’t do 3.3 races per hour. Only three. Hence, 2,475,000. Starting a fourth race, takes a player over time to achieve 3,300,000/4 races.
The Alien can only do three races. In one hour. The extra time left over from that hour, is too short to complete another race. That means, even the Alien can only do 2,475,000 per hour. That’s all I’m saying. Counting a half race, goes past one hour.
Unless, I’m doing old math and there’s some new math I’m not aware of?

Edit: Excuse me. I mean to say a third of the race. We can’t do a third of a race to make up the average.
17 minutes per race x three races = 51 minutes. Unless a player can complete a race in 9 minutes, the maximum is 2,475,000 per hour.

Bro. I know that...

That's why we call it "average".

 

[Pizzapants]

I was kidding, but 18 minutes per race only allows three races in one hour. 17 minutes per race still allows three races per hour. To do four races per hour, a player needs to do a time of 15 minutes. Also, to add time for restart, it would be a bit more. Still, only three races per hour. We can’t do 3.3 races per hour. Only three. Hence, 2,475,000. Starting a fourth race, takes a player over time to achieve 3,300,000/4 races.
The Alien can only do three races. In one hour. The extra time left over from that hour, is too short to complete another race. That means, even the Alien can only do 2,475,000 per hour. That’s all I’m saying. Counting a half race, goes past one hour.
Unless, I’m doing old math and there’s some new math I’m not aware of?

Edit: Excuse me. I mean to say a third of the race. We can’t do a third of a race to make up the average.
17 minutes per race x three races = 51 minutes. Unless a player can complete a race in 9 minutes, the maximum is 2,475,000 per hour.

This post is so pointless. How do you not understand what a RATE is?

If you are traveling at 60 mph but driving for less than an hour … you are still going 60mph.

 

[05XR8]

I think what everyone means to say when they put up numbers like that is 2.8m per hour of driving time. So if you sat in front of your TV for a day with the sole intention of making as many credits as possible, this would maximise your return.

If you only get to play for an hour, then yes, you won't make that much, but if you want to know which race will give you the most credits for the least amount of driving time (which is good for me - I like to start with one grind race then drive cars I find fun that don't pay a lot) then credits per hour of driving will show you the best way to do that

Yes. Thank you.

This post is so pointless. How do you not understand what a RATE is?

Pipe down. Your post is pointless. Grown folk are typing.

Bro. I know that...

That's why we call it "average".

As what hamish was explaining. 👍

 

[MrSitar]

I’ve been averaging close to 800-900 driver in game miles doing this glitch, i know without pit stops it’s like 55.1 miles total i think, i don’t care how easy or hard this challenge is, I found my groove, it’s making me monies, I’m happy, who knows if PD might Hot fix this week or next week, this but time is ticking we are at 20 days until the next update or less of game time to make however money I can get for future car updates really, the way I see, I’ll buy a car and replenish the money i spent back, so far I’ve made a huge chunks of money but I am grateful of low record breaking runs, my kids distract me often that i end up stacking penalties or hitting the walls so I make the best of it hahaha but I’ve been hogging the tv for a week straight already lololol
mind you I’m also buying some mst for who ever allowed this glitch last minute every small chance I get, we all know it was on purpose haha.

 

[05XR8]

This post is so pointless. How do you not understand what a RATE is?

If you are traveling at 60 mph but driving for less than an hour … you are still going 60mph.

You want to argue? Okay. Who cares about miles per hour? If I have sixty minutes in one hour and can only race for an hour. The maximum races I can do for my skill level, are three races in one hour. You get that?

 

[shadow0460]

I've won this race with two other cars aside from the Tomahawk and the Alpine. In fact, I haven't run the Alpine yet but I will try to tune it to enter and try to win.
My point is you don't need to rely on a glitch to win. You can simply out tune and out drive the AI in a car whose PP rating is accurate. The first car I won this with didn't change in PP at all from 1.19 to 1.20.
I've read others have won this race in a Diablo and a sucker car. The 2J's time was comparable to the Alpine. I have yet to get my hands on a 2J, when I do I'll be shooting for under 20 minutes.
My best run so far is 27 minutes, and I'll still be running that or better after the next patch. My first two runs/tunes are on YouTube. I didn't post it but I updated the tune for one of those cars to include irreversible engine mods like the crankshaft and port polish... and still won.
It may just be me, but it seems the more you spend in the car and its tuning, the more aggressive the AI is. Except Solis. He'll get in the way sometimes, but he'll do his best to avoid hitting you. Kokubun, Gallo, and Suswilo will ram you into a wall every chance they get. Occasionally Hizal will but usually he, too, tries to avoid a collision.

 

[The OG]

that guy likes to argue with people just for the sake of it but never really brings any valid points

 

[RichiPuppy]

Yes. Thank you.

Pipe down. Your post is pointless. Grown folk are typing.

As what hamish was explaining. 👍

It seems you are the one being a child. Everyone knows exactly what the op meant but you. Go split hairs some where else.

 

[Barracuda413]

I "average" more credits per hour with a non glitched gt4 car tuned to 600pp with sport hard tires, than I do with the glitched Tomahawk,
(mostly due to my restarting whenever I get a penalty)

 

[Pizzapants]

I've won this race with two other cars aside from the Tomahawk and the Alpine. In fact, I haven't run the Alpine yet but I will try to tune it to enter and try to win.
My point is you don't need to rely on a glitch to win. You can simply out tune and out drive the AI in a car whose PP rating is accurate. The first car I won this with didn't change in PP at all from 1.19 to 1.20.
I've read others have won this race in a Diablo and a sucker car. The 2J's time was comparable to the Alpine. I have yet to get my hands on a 2J, when I do I'll be shooting for under 20 minutes.
My best run so far is 27 minutes, and I'll still be running that or better after the next patch. My first two runs/tunes are on YouTube. I didn't post it but I updated the tune for one of those cars to include irreversible engine mods like the crankshaft and port polish... and still won.
It may just be me, but it seems the more you spend in the car and its tuning, the more aggressive the AI is. Except Solis. He'll get in the way sometimes, but he'll do his best to avoid hitting you. Kokubun, Gallo, and Suswilo will ram you into a wall every chance they get. Occasionally Hizal will but usually he, too, tries to avoid a collision.

The 2J is great, it’s my favorite car, but you won’t get under 24 minutes with it on Tokyo. Same with the Alpine. The Tomahawk doing 18 minutes is a pretty huge difference.

All of these cars require some practice to get used to their quirks though, moreso than “normal” tunes. The alpine is closest to normal driving.

 

[05XR8]

It seems you are the one being a child. Everyone knows exactly what the op meant but you. Go split hairs some where else.

Uh, no. I even place emojis. I’m lighthearted with 99.9% of my posts. If you didn’t know. Can’t tell me what to do or do you need a reminder?

 

[Max_HP]

Tomahawk is a challenge in what way by not hitting the walls and getting penalties? The race is not even competitive... you win by 3 laps by the end of the race...

This is a glitched grind for Cr. not a competitive race. lol
It's all about maximising shortest time for most Cr. in a race, we don't give a ƽɧ💩 about anything else.

The 2J is great, it’s my favorite car, but you won’t get under 24 minutes with it on Tokyo. Same with the Alpine. The Tomahawk doing 18 minutes is a pretty huge difference.

All of these cars require some practice to get used to their quirks though, moreso than “normal” tunes. The alpine is closest to normal driving.

When it comes to the 2J, I think we can all agree you are the master with it on Tokyo with them blistering times m8 haha.

 

[Max_HP]

I copied user "Max_HP" tune from post #1395 on page 47 of this thread
I copied all settings exactly as shown, using a new car with NO other changes or upgrades
and I get 713.72PP with 319HP, I have cleared all settings and started with a new settings sheet several times
and always get the same result

As @Saargasm stated, post a pic of your tune so we can see what you're missing for it not to work.
Everyone here has managed to make it work.

I "average" more credits per hour with a non glitched gt4 car tuned to 600pp with sport hard tires, than I do with the glitched Tomahawk,
(mostly due to my restarting whenever I get a penalty)

Use what you find comfortable with to grind Cr.
You don't have to do the Tomo glitch if it's too frustrating, it's not for everyone.
But for those of us that want to grind Cr.(or challenge) in the shortest time with the most Cr. this is the best and only one.

 

[The OG]

This is a glitched grind for Cr. not a competitive race. lol
It's all about maximising shortest time for most Cr. in a race, we don't give a ƽɧ💩 about anything else.

When it comes to the 2J, I think we can all agree you are the master with it on Tokyo with them blistering times m8 haha.

Obviously... your going to get the most credits in a short amount of time with the tomahawk... this was proven in the original glitch...I am not against the glitch at all... heck I abused the glitch the first time around... I was just proving a point to Pizzapants saying the tokyo race with the tomahawk was a lot easier than a regular car at Lemans...

 

[Pizzapants]

Obviously... your going to get the most credits in a short amount of time with the tomahawk... this was proven in the original glitch...I am not against the glitch at all... heck I abused the glitch the first time around... I was just proving a point to Pizzapants saying the tokyo race with the tomahawk was a lot easier than a regular car at Lemans...

i really disagree, though. driving a regular car at le mans is a completely brainless activity, you don't have to try. the tomahawk on Tokyo requires intense concentration and precise timing, and losing focus even on a straightaway can result in the car spinning out.

 

[Max_HP]

I was just proving a point to Pizzapants saying the tokyo race with the tomahawk was a lot easier than a regular car at Lemans...

Please post a vid of you doing the race in under 15mins or less, because it is anything but easy lmfao.

 

[The OG]

Please post a vid of you doing the race in under 15mins or less, because it is anything but easy lmfao.

When did I say I could do the race in 15 minutes lmao...I said the race was easy... When I did the race my best time was a little over 18 minutes... even if you do 20 minutes thats still 825,000 per race for 3 races which is a good cash out...my point is regardless if the car is hard to control the race is a guaranteed W... you take the lead within the first 5 seconds of the race and nobody has a chance to take the lead because you are lapping everyone... Again I am not against the glitch go ahead and do it... I want you guys to get as much cash as possible... I am just saying the Lemans race is harder because you actually have to put effort in winning the race... in Tokyo all you have to do is start the game and you will win with the Tomahawk... I guarantee anyone who has done the glitch with the Tomahawk has never lost which is my point

 

[Barracuda413]

As @Saargasm stated, post a pic of your tune so we can see what you're missing for it not to work.
Everyone here has managed to make it work.

Use what you find comfortable with to grind Cr.
You don't have to do the Tomo glitch if it's too frustrating, it's not for everyone.
But for those of us that want to grind Cr.(or challenge) in the shortest time with the most Cr. this is the best and only one.

I have reset the Alpine 220 to the default settings, so there is nothing to show
but I have copied the settings EXACTLY as you have in the pic on your post, NO changes at all
multiple times and always get the same result, as I have said this is using a NEW Alpine 220 from the legend dealer, NOT an older one, not sure if that matters,

ALSO you do NOT show every setting in your post, only the first page on the left, not the other settings on the right, so I am not sure if you have any changes there, I did NOT change ANYTHING on the second or left side of the setup page, it is all stock, NO changes or upgrades

the FASTEST credit grind is not always the BEST grind, and I am no real hurry to hit 100,000,000 credits
I will get there eventually, I prefer to have some FUN while grinding credits, using multiple car and track combos
and have been waiting for the Alpine 220 to show up in the legend dealer again so I could try it

 

[Barracuda413]

pics as requested

 

[Barracuda413]

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[Pizzapants]

I have reset the Alpine 220 to the default settings, so there is nothing to show
but I have copied the settings EXACTLY as you have in the pic on your post, NO changes at all
multiple times and always get the same result, as I have said this is using a NEW Alpine 220 from the legend dealer, NOT an older one, not sure if that matters,

it looks like you need to purchase the Racing Crankshaft, Medium RPM Turbo, and Racing Intercooler. Your car only has 319 horsepower. His screenshot has 463hp.

 

[jergto]

The truth is nobody is going to grind tokyo with a slow car when the TOMA is available. PD really screwed up pricing certain japanese cars astronomical prices. Like its pretty pathetic. Imagine a 90s NSX with 50k miles for sale for nearly $500k or how about a supra with 50k miles for over 270k?

PD got greedy with MTX and pricing cars beyond what they sell for IRL. So to that, I glitch. To me glitching is like the GT1/GT2 days of racing the same race, winning prize car, sell, rinse and repeat!

 

[KAlex122]

i really disagree, though. driving a regular car at le mans is a completely brainless activity, you don't have to try. the tomahawk on Tokyo requires intense concentration and precise timing, and losing focus even on a straightaway can result in the car spinning out.

I disagree. Driving the Tomahawk with a little experience in Tokyo is the most brainless activity. Don't go for a top time but see it as a relaxed sunday drive with roundabout 20 minutes. That's when you start to don't even get a single penalty. I am not sure if i am really looking at the screen when driving. I'm looking right through it with other things on my mind or talking to my wife.

 

[Pizzapants]

The truth is nobody is going to grind tokyo with a slow car when the TOMA is available. PD really screwed up pricing certain japanese cars astronomical prices. Like its pretty pathetic. Imagine a 90s NSX with 50k miles for sale for nearly $500k or how about a supra with 50k miles for over 270k?

PD got greedy with MTX and pricing cars beyond what they sell for IRL. So to that, I glitch. To me glitching is like the GT1/GT2 days of racing the same race, winning prize car, sell, rinse and repeat!

it basically comes down to racism. PD seem to think Japanese manufacturers are the most desirable and collectible and seem to make up a disproportionate number of available vehicles and developer attention. frankly i could not care less about owning 26 different Toyotas, while dozens of other manufacturers get only one or two cars that are all at least ten years old. The bias is really glaring.