"Daily" Race Discussion
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- Tennessee
- NoStopN
That would hinge on PD caring about your DR/SR. They have shown that they don't.
- 5,091
- Nor Cal
- sturk0167
Only in C races, and particularly when you go right from running qualifying laps to the race.
In qualifying, your car has zero fuel weight. At the start of a race, the weight of a full tank is added, and unless you're on the pole, there will be dirty air, as well. So at the start, it feels like the handling isn't very good.
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- 1,306
- Canada
I feel like such a dolt. At some point during a race last night, I felt a bump on my right side while braking for the hairpin after 100R. Post race, I was called a dirty rammer.
I checked the replay and it looks like I blatantly murdered him for no good reason. I tried to message him on PSN in order to save face but his messaging is turned off.
Oh well, I had a momentary lapse in situational awareness and now I probably deserve whatever is coming.
I checked the replay and it looks like I blatantly murdered him for no good reason. I tried to message him on PSN in order to save face but his messaging is turned off.
Oh well, I had a momentary lapse in situational awareness and now I probably deserve whatever is coming.
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- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
@D_Dragline It's bad sportmanship to enter a crashing lobby 
How hard is it to add a few extra checks:
- If you get disconnected before the race actually starts (auto-drive done) there should be no SR nor DR loss.
Most disconnects happen after matchmaking, before the race actually starts. Always someone dropping out of the lobby and frequently a non starter. No input detected, then the car did not race, simple.
You could say it's unsportmanlike to quit when you see who entered. (Don't want to race against this mess). However you can forfeit during the loading screen without penalties (sign out of psn before you enter the lobby) so you have that choice anyway.
- If you get disconnected after crossing the finish line, before re-entering the lobby, you should be counted as finished
Now if you get disconnected after crossing the line, before re-entering the lobby, you get -5 SR and are treated as DNF, thus give DR to everyone else. This makes no sense at all and happens pretty frequently that people can't re-enter the post race lobby.
Add it on to the still happening broken starts (one car stalls holding up all behind them) or the more rare auto-drive failures. Netcode that creates impossible jumping around cars with lag, ghost hits, placing solid cars back on the racing line, invisible players (on the board, but not seen in the race, still finishes, races alone I guess), immune to contact players (in the race, but they don't see anyone so their car does not react to others, but bumps other cars out of the way) and cars emerging out of the pit on top of each other.
All long standing bugs. GT7 has a lot to improve.
@NevilleNobody No fuel weight in qualifying, only during FIA qualifying. Not sure if it's cold tires at the start of A and B, nor lag. You always enter the first corner at a different pace though and have lots more to look out for. After a pit stop in race C it definitely takes a few corners before the car has full grip again.
How hard is it to add a few extra checks:
- If you get disconnected before the race actually starts (auto-drive done) there should be no SR nor DR loss.
Most disconnects happen after matchmaking, before the race actually starts. Always someone dropping out of the lobby and frequently a non starter. No input detected, then the car did not race, simple.
You could say it's unsportmanlike to quit when you see who entered. (Don't want to race against this mess). However you can forfeit during the loading screen without penalties (sign out of psn before you enter the lobby) so you have that choice anyway.
- If you get disconnected after crossing the finish line, before re-entering the lobby, you should be counted as finished
Now if you get disconnected after crossing the line, before re-entering the lobby, you get -5 SR and are treated as DNF, thus give DR to everyone else. This makes no sense at all and happens pretty frequently that people can't re-enter the post race lobby.
Add it on to the still happening broken starts (one car stalls holding up all behind them) or the more rare auto-drive failures. Netcode that creates impossible jumping around cars with lag, ghost hits, placing solid cars back on the racing line, invisible players (on the board, but not seen in the race, still finishes, races alone I guess), immune to contact players (in the race, but they don't see anyone so their car does not react to others, but bumps other cars out of the way) and cars emerging out of the pit on top of each other.
All long standing bugs. GT7 has a lot to improve.
@NevilleNobody No fuel weight in qualifying, only during FIA qualifying. Not sure if it's cold tires at the start of A and B, nor lag. You always enter the first corner at a different pace though and have lots more to look out for. After a pit stop in race C it definitely takes a few corners before the car has full grip again.
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- Nor Cal
- sturk0167
No, sir. It's bone dry. 👍
- 3,485
- Canada
Really? Surprises me how close I can get to qualy pace in races then.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
What a difference a new year makes. Lots of competitive clean racing this afternoon at race B. Fast and clean. Last night I was down to 33 SR with the drunk crowd. I guess today they were recovering from their hang over and racing was very good for a change. The cleanest Saturday ever in GT Sport history.
Still, despite 13 clean race bonuses I ended with red SR due to multiple shoving matches breaking out on the track. In the middle of traffic there aren't any outs and apparently a small tap of a bumper without consequences can still lead to SR loss. Everyone stayed on, no positions changed, but it was my fault anyway. Always great to see that the ones that start the shoving match get away with blue SR every time.
It's 5pm now, the hangover crowd has woken up I guess. It already started to get more unfriendly from 4pm (EST), before 4pm was sublime in GT Sport terms. I entered DR.A again, matched into the top split (no imagination Supra) rooms and kept up quite well in the FT-1 VGT. Not finishing higher than 10th (from last) with the A+/A crowd, but still a couple passes each race.
Great way to start the year. Now quickly on to something else while dirty hour is building.
Still, despite 13 clean race bonuses I ended with red SR due to multiple shoving matches breaking out on the track. In the middle of traffic there aren't any outs and apparently a small tap of a bumper without consequences can still lead to SR loss. Everyone stayed on, no positions changed, but it was my fault anyway. Always great to see that the ones that start the shoving match get away with blue SR every time.
It's 5pm now, the hangover crowd has woken up I guess. It already started to get more unfriendly from 4pm (EST), before 4pm was sublime in GT Sport terms. I entered DR.A again, matched into the top split (no imagination Supra) rooms and kept up quite well in the FT-1 VGT. Not finishing higher than 10th (from last) with the A+/A crowd, but still a couple passes each race.
Great way to start the year. Now quickly on to something else while dirty hour is building.
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- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
It has changed quite a bit yes. I lost 23 seconds on a lap after getting bumped off at Big Willow and the reset not working. However I still see cars getting reset onto the racing line. It's very random, but nowadays more often no reset.
Ghosting has changed again as well. For the better. I've been spared many side swipe and dive bomb attempts by the attacker getting ghosted and going straight through me. Unfortunately I've also seen it used to overtake straight through me :/
The action != re-action thing is also very strong. Someone throwing their car back on the road, bad re-entry, can't avoid and run into them with a 100 mph speed difference (why not ghosted who knows) and my car simply stops dead, theirs unaffected while traffic around me all races on lol.
The game is getting old and forgetful. Dementia kicking in.
Ghosting has changed again as well. For the better. I've been spared many side swipe and dive bomb attempts by the attacker getting ghosted and going straight through me. Unfortunately I've also seen it used to overtake straight through me :/
The action != re-action thing is also very strong. Someone throwing their car back on the road, bad re-entry, can't avoid and run into them with a 100 mph speed difference (why not ghosted who knows) and my car simply stops dead, theirs unaffected while traffic around me all races on lol.
The game is getting old and forgetful. Dementia kicking in.
- 2,323
- United States
I was with you I think in all five races I did today, also starting near the back (black and gold WRX). This was my first Daily in probably two years. Wow, things have changed. The lobbies were very closely matched DR-wise and the racing was very competitive and, for the most part, clean. But wow, I dropped from 34k to 31k DR today. I don't remember the Dailies being this competitive and closely-matched DR-wise. There must be a lot of people playing. It was a lot of fun and I am looking forward to getting back into the game for the new season and new game (GT7).
- 3,485
- Canada
The pace has been red hot for about 6 months or so. I can qualify top 30pc of all A drivers and finish last on pace.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
Yep, I recognize the name. Today was exceptional, usually you only get these kind of close clean matches on Sunday early evening. Or when a combination is extra popular. It is a fun combo!
I've seen more competitive though, rooms with 10 A+ drivers, me starting at the back, staying at the back trying to finish within the time limit
The difference in pace when you drop out of the top split room is immense. I started today getting fastest laps, top 5 finishes, then got promoted to the top split rooms and struggled to hang on. From trying not to run into the back of the cars in front of me the first lap, I'm suddenly seeing them disappear on me, step on it from go. My fastest laps were 1:33.2 at best, yet even a 1:34 would net me the FL. With drafting in the top split room I can almost get below 1:33. Fastest lap I remember from the top split rooms was 1:31.9 Its a different world.
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- United States
- BEBOP-zero
Got to do a decent amount of race A this week. Got to race with the race A crew, when are always the best. Great clean fun races and I managed to get some wins too.
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Kept turning laps in the Toyota FT-1 for the B race. Would shave a tenth here or a tenth there. Then I totally hit on it for a lap. Knocked two or three tenths off. Got it down to 1:32.822. I began to hate the ghost car (LOL) and/or my own time.
"Man, that guy's fast!"
It's amazing how even if I blow a corner or two, I can still turn lap times from just a day or so ago. For the most part, unless I'm REALLY going for it, my laps are all in the low 1:33 range (typically no more than 1:33.3) in qualifying laps.
Just in time for them to change the track. Sigh.
But holy crap, I'm hooked. I started actually doing daily races (for the first time since dabbling in one or two when the game first launched) a few days ago and now I can't get enough of them. It's 3:30 AM ET and I'm finally heading to bed after doing this for about five hours straight. Got put in some A/B heats for the last race or two... whereas I had been in just B/S heats. Felt good to end the night on a high note. I didn't win, but I'm running with A drivers and experienced B drivers. Probably won't be able to turn as many laps when I return to work, but...
Man, this game is a rush. Anybody else still get butterflies before the race?
Great race. You were on rails.
Did you turn on your windshield wipers at the 4:18 mark to help the car turn? Scare away the competition? 😆
I have nightmares about Suzuka and Fuji. I did run the A race (the first daily in YEARS) and I finished second, IIRC. But I haven't touched it since.
"Man, that guy's fast!"
It's amazing how even if I blow a corner or two, I can still turn lap times from just a day or so ago. For the most part, unless I'm REALLY going for it, my laps are all in the low 1:33 range (typically no more than 1:33.3) in qualifying laps.
Just in time for them to change the track. Sigh.
But holy crap, I'm hooked. I started actually doing daily races (for the first time since dabbling in one or two when the game first launched) a few days ago and now I can't get enough of them. It's 3:30 AM ET and I'm finally heading to bed after doing this for about five hours straight. Got put in some A/B heats for the last race or two... whereas I had been in just B/S heats. Felt good to end the night on a high note. I didn't win, but I'm running with A drivers and experienced B drivers. Probably won't be able to turn as many laps when I return to work, but...
Man, this game is a rush. Anybody else still get butterflies before the race?
Great race. You were on rails.
Did you turn on your windshield wipers at the 4:18 mark to help the car turn? Scare away the competition? 😆
I have nightmares about Suzuka and Fuji. I did run the A race (the first daily in YEARS) and I finished second, IIRC. But I haven't touched it since.
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- Ulricehamn
Snap, especially when starting near the front with a genuine chance of winning/top 3
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- United Kingdom
After chucking away a good chance of a win (while pretty drunk) on race B last night when I followed P1 off at the chicane, I managed a win from pole in the C7 this morning. Just managed to maintain enough of a gap in the first half a lap to keep me safe at the end. I'm looking forward to Race C next week!
Race C at Fuji has been good fun in the GR1 cars but my left hand keeps cramping up with the motion control - holding on for dear life!
Pole time was set with the FT-1, I can get close in the C7 but lose out a few tenths in the last part of the lap.
Race C at Fuji has been good fun in the GR1 cars but my left hand keeps cramping up with the motion control - holding on for dear life!
Pole time was set with the FT-1, I can get close in the C7 but lose out a few tenths in the last part of the lap.
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- United States
- BEBOP-zero
I tend to panic a bit if I get out front, ( or just during the race in general, those race butterflies are real) so I hit the wipers by accident there.Kept turning laps in the Toyota FT-1 for the B race. Would shave a tenth here or a tenth there. Then I totally hit on it for a lap. Knocked two or three tenths off. Got it down to 1:32.822. I began to hate the ghost car (LOL) and/or my own time.
"Man, that guy's fast!"
It's amazing how even if I blow a corner or two, I can still turn lap times from just a day or so ago. For the most part, unless I'm REALLY going for it, my laps are all in the low 1:33 range (typically no more than 1:33.3) in qualifying laps.
Just in time for them to change the track. Sigh.
But holy crap, I'm hooked. I started actually doing daily races (for the first time since dabbling in one or two when the game first launched) a few days ago and now I can't get enough of them. It's 3:30 AM ET and I'm finally heading to bed after doing this for about five hours straight. Got put in some A/B heats for the last race or two... whereas I had been in just B/S heats. Felt good to end the night on a high note. I didn't win, but I'm running with A drivers and experienced B drivers. Probably won't be able to turn as many laps when I return to work, but...
Man, this game is a rush. Anybody else still get butterflies before the race?
Great race. You were on rails.
Did you turn on your windshield wipers at the 4:18 mark to help the car turn? Scare away the competition? 😆
I have nightmares about Suzuka and Fuji. I did run the A race (the first daily in YEARS) and I finished second, IIRC. But I haven't touched it since.
When I get time to actually practice I can have a decent pace throughout the week Have to head back to work next week so I won't have the luxury anymore.While getting some wins was great this week, my goal is aways to race as clean as possible, to generally just not ruin anyone else's race while I'm out there. But race "A" can be fun! I usually race with the same people, a lot of whom are on the Planet here and all are great, respectable and fast drives.
I recommend it, they are a great crew. So, If you are out there in race A say hi
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- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I guess yesterday was too good to be true.
First race today, dive bombed and punted off by an A/S driver. Back to normal :/
Second race, a Brazillian B/S dive bomb took me out.
Third race, railroaded by an Argentinian B/S driver, got him back when he lost control. Sorry not going to brake for your mistake.
Fourth race, punted by the same Argentinian in the chicane. I caught up with him again in lap 5, returned the favor, worth the red S.
Fifth race, success. I didn't get rammed off! Finished 7th, 9 places up, CRB, and my best lap of the week, 1:32.891
There were still 5 red S in that room, 4 DR.A drivers in the red and a lot of nasty words after the race. Time to quit while ahead.
First race today, dive bombed and punted off by an A/S driver. Back to normal :/
Second race, a Brazillian B/S dive bomb took me out.
Third race, railroaded by an Argentinian B/S driver, got him back when he lost control. Sorry not going to brake for your mistake.
Fourth race, punted by the same Argentinian in the chicane. I caught up with him again in lap 5, returned the favor, worth the red S.
Fifth race, success. I didn't get rammed off! Finished 7th, 9 places up, CRB, and my best lap of the week, 1:32.891
There were still 5 red S in that room, 4 DR.A drivers in the red and a lot of nasty words after the race. Time to quit while ahead.
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- Ulricehamn
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- Canada
After 100R, I have a tendency to whip the wheel right and get back on the outside in order to carry plenty of speed into the hairpin. I was in a battle with someone and we were both sucked a bit to the outside of 100R and when I made myself go to the right side of the track, right before braking for the hairpin, I happened to viciously slam him off the track. I barely noticed it, though because I was still battling. I thought nothing of it.
I doubt he will see it the same way but I'll try to explain.
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- Austin, TX USA
- Winnie847
Tried to run Race C this week, first time on the new PS5 and first time playing the game in about a month. For the first session, it seems like I spent most of the time just trying to get up to speed. Was lapping in the 25's the whole time but I knew 24's were easily possible if I could just put together some good laps and not miss the apexes....and also stay away from dirty drivers, of which there were plenty.
2nd attempt a couple days later I felt my pace and consistency was much improved. Started lapping in the 24's, but the dirty drivers were still everywhere, desperate to not be passed. Not only that but on the few races that were going well for me, I made some huge mistakes and cost me a ton of time. Hit the pit wall, 1.5s penalty plus losing about 8-10 seconds being stuck in pit lane. Another time I selected the wrong tires at the pit stop....race ruined. There really needs to be a way to exit out of that selection once it's been made. Ran a total of about 10 races over the week and didn't get one result satisfying enough to call it good. I think P6 was my best finish from the back and I should have had several podiums if not one or two wins.
Also on the topic of dirty drivers, I ran into Luisdinisio's alt account which is called "chalkymatress" with a couple numbers at the end. I wasn't sure this was him, but one of the more popular NA streamers said so in his stream and that made all the sense because this guy was typically starting in the top 5 and taking as many people out as he could. He was doing this so much that eventually the top few people just started slowing down at the start to let him pass, only to pass him later on track or in the pits. The couple times I saw him win, he boasted in the chat afterward about his finishing time and how everyone else was slow. LOL, he was definitely not the fastest guy in any of those lobbies, just easily the dirtiest.
Crap week for me, but I think I dusted off a few of the cobwebs and hopefully I'll be ready for next week at DTS if I get a little time to spare on Saturday.
2nd attempt a couple days later I felt my pace and consistency was much improved. Started lapping in the 24's, but the dirty drivers were still everywhere, desperate to not be passed. Not only that but on the few races that were going well for me, I made some huge mistakes and cost me a ton of time. Hit the pit wall, 1.5s penalty plus losing about 8-10 seconds being stuck in pit lane. Another time I selected the wrong tires at the pit stop....race ruined. There really needs to be a way to exit out of that selection once it's been made. Ran a total of about 10 races over the week and didn't get one result satisfying enough to call it good. I think P6 was my best finish from the back and I should have had several podiums if not one or two wins.
Also on the topic of dirty drivers, I ran into Luisdinisio's alt account which is called "chalkymatress" with a couple numbers at the end. I wasn't sure this was him, but one of the more popular NA streamers said so in his stream and that made all the sense because this guy was typically starting in the top 5 and taking as many people out as he could. He was doing this so much that eventually the top few people just started slowing down at the start to let him pass, only to pass him later on track or in the pits. The couple times I saw him win, he boasted in the chat afterward about his finishing time and how everyone else was slow. LOL, he was definitely not the fastest guy in any of those lobbies, just easily the dirtiest.
Crap week for me, but I think I dusted off a few of the cobwebs and hopefully I'll be ready for next week at DTS if I get a little time to spare on Saturday.
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