- 7,102
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
You're too kind, you didn't see the bits I edited out 🤣 I don't think I'd like playing on a wheel, controller seems more relaxed for just casual gaming.
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Well, I've been in lobbies with you - you're always fast and respectful.
Most people would, I believe, say it's less stressful on a wheel since you have much larger range of motion on the inputs and larger room for error. On the other hand, GT has controller input very well optimized and it obviously works well for you...
Anyway, see you in races!
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- Canada
- TPCDangerSashimi
- 7,102
- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
I mean that in the sense that with a controller you can turn it on, pick up the pad and jump straight into a race, the wheels/sim rigs seem to be quite a faff. Gran Turismo is pretty good on a controller, up there with Codemasters for the best optimisation.Well, I've been in lobbies with you - you're always fast and respectful.
Most people would, I believe, say it's less stressful on a wheel since you have much larger range of motion on the inputs and larger room for error. On the other hand, GT has controller input very well optimized and it obviously works well for you...
Anyway, see you in races!
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I did a marathon session today at Sarthe. I lasted longer than I expected, but it was inevitable while racing from the back.
Races were do-able until about 3pm but slowly getting more messy, then this
I survived that one, but got a red S in the next one, then A, then B, then C, then
This was the start of that final race in SR.C, and all the contact I had in that race
Back up tonight or tomorrow. Taking the Porsche curves flat out is addictive, 285 kph to Maison Blanche. I wonder what this race would look like with the old penalty system. I'm guessing big traffic jams at all the penalty zones
Races were do-able until about 3pm but slowly getting more messy, then this
I survived that one, but got a red S in the next one, then A, then B, then C, then
This was the start of that final race in SR.C, and all the contact I had in that race
Back up tonight or tomorrow. Taking the Porsche curves flat out is addictive, 285 kph to Maison Blanche. I wonder what this race would look like with the old penalty system. I'm guessing big traffic jams at all the penalty zones
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- Australia
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Yeah, that'll be a 7th gear corner then!
Thing with this car - and other high power, high downforce cars - if you're in low gears (especially 1st, avoid 1st!) and not pointing in a straight line it'll feel like it wants to kill you every time you touch the throttle. High speed corners though, it loves them. Sounds daft but it's probably trickier to take the Porsche Curves at 60mph in 1st than it is at 160mph in 6th (and I'm assuming these are the corners you're alluding to - can't think of any more 7th gear corners)
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- United States
Yeah I’m going to leave these right here. Good night everyone!
- 153
- Idaho, USA
- SMcQueen46
Lovin' me some Race A tonight! /sarc 
Managed to drop about enough DR points in two races to bring my alt account down to D again. I might not go back there again, unless my masochism kicks in!
I took the Red Bull car for a spin (ha!, not really, I actually stayed on the track) in time trials against the machine on my main account. I really think I like it. It's amazing to go around Porsche Corner in 7th gear, and not to brake for Mulsanne until actually off the straight itself! Amazing downforce.
Managed to drop about enough DR points in two races to bring my alt account down to D again. I might not go back there again, unless my masochism kicks in!
I took the Red Bull car for a spin (ha!, not really, I actually stayed on the track) in time trials against the machine on my main account. I really think I like it. It's amazing to go around Porsche Corner in 7th gear, and not to brake for Mulsanne until actually off the straight itself! Amazing downforce.
- 3,338
- Canada
Jesus interlagos is even worse than usual, just hopeless. Too many folks are not racing, just barge passing on bombing in from waaaaay back.
I have half decent pace, 31.2 with the stang and seem to be fine to race my peers but it is just a complete fiasco.
Car wise, lot of variety. On paper the supra is strong but the intrusive tc kills it for me. The stang, amg and vantage are the best cars for me with the stang just offering that little extra turn in over the vantage and extra power over the merc.
I have half decent pace, 31.2 with the stang and seem to be fine to race my peers but it is just a complete fiasco.
Car wise, lot of variety. On paper the supra is strong but the intrusive tc kills it for me. The stang, amg and vantage are the best cars for me with the stang just offering that little extra turn in over the vantage and extra power over the merc.
- 444
- Sweden
As a contrast to all the complaining here, high or top split lobbies in Europe are mostly great. I found myself several times smiling or even laughing at how fast, clean and professional some drivers are. It often looks much better than F1 IRL.
I'm still of the opinion that the vast majority of crashes or punts are accidental. Or at least make yourself a favour and assume they are - it's better for your mental health and your driving.
I'm still of the opinion that the vast majority of crashes or punts are accidental. Or at least make yourself a favour and assume they are - it's better for your mental health and your driving.
- 1,720
- Australia
The Red Bull at Le Mans is addictive. Once you find the groove it’s such a great car to drive and putting it on this track creates some fantastic, strategic battling. I’ve found the races are super clean at the front and the only SR downs are from bump drafting.
Last time this combo came up I made it to A+ for the first time. It’s still playing to my strengths and I’m getting great results on the main. Will probably try a few on the Alt as well to see what the pace is like in NA.
Last time this combo came up I made it to A+ for the first time. It’s still playing to my strengths and I’m getting great results on the main. Will probably try a few on the Alt as well to see what the pace is like in NA.
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- 3,003
- Dundee, Scotland
Well I did a 'random' stream on GT Sport last night, my verdict is that in the lower grades (I'm D/S currently) the Red Bull Race is extreme 'chaos' but Race A and Race B are both fun and to extents very clean driving.
Might do some more streaming of this later in the week, gonna try and finish my 'Ganyu day' Red Bull X2019 livery first though so I can race with in on the stream.
Might do some more streaming of this later in the week, gonna try and finish my 'Ganyu day' Red Bull X2019 livery first though so I can race with in on the stream.
- 417
- North Bohemia
Playing with a wheel is actually a lot harder than with a controller. With a wheel the game gives you full control of the car whereas with a controller the game is helping you a lot by smoothing all of your inputs or something. I mean it makes sense, going lock to lock takes just one move with your thumb but with a wheel you really have to physically turn it all the way from one side to the other, usually very quickly. You can actually break a sweat with a wheel quite often, I don't think that's possible with a controller. That's why a lot of people are surprised when they get a wheel that they are slower with it than with a controller (including me
). It takes a lot of practice and muscle memory to be really quick with it but it really pays off. But I do still play with a controller sometimes (when I'm lazy to set up my wheel) and I'm usually only about 1 - 1.5s a lap slower with it.
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I wonder what G forces the driver is put through in that race. Looking at other cars take corners you wonder how anyone's head is staying on!Lovin' me some Race A tonight! /sarc
Managed to drop about enough DR points in two races to bring my alt account down to D again. I might not go back there again, unless my masochism kicks in!
I took the Red Bull car for a spin (ha!, not really, I actually stayed on the track) in time trials against the machine on my main account. I really think I like it. It's amazing to go around Porsche Corner in 7th gear, and not to brake for Mulsanne until actually off the straight itself! Amazing downforce.
I'm taking it easy this morning. Now my DR has been reset I can stay on the brakes a bit longer at the start and let everyone go ahead. Stay out of the S1 chaos. Yesterday that wa not an option with high 45K DR. In a lot of races the non qualifiers outnumbered the qualifiers, so I was starting mid pack every race.
Easier races in lower SR? Nope. B/B driver on pole was doing 3:19 laps, I finished 19 seconds behind, no chance. Every room has an alien now thanks to all the DR resets. Which also makes the choice easy to concentrate on SR, maybe SR.S is better now after the big 'clean out' yesterday
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- 3,338
- Canada
They're not though. At best they are stupid but surely you do it once and learn not over and over again? 3 Interlagos races yesterday in S/A rooms;
1) Running 5th, all over the guy in 4th, I get a great exit from the Senna S but not quite enough to make a move down the inside of the left hander. Guy behind me is a solid second back and pushes me off, basically takes the corner like I am not there. I drop 4 places.
2) I have a run on the guy in 3rd, I go inside into T1, idiot in 5th comes from MILES back and bombs in down the inside where there is barely a car's width. Hit's my left rear to slow himself down, i lose 3 places.
3) Train of 4 cars into the final turn, guy behind me is close but in line with me and zero overlap. He decides to just chuck it up the inside, i hit him as I turn in, we both lose 4 places.
It's a joke, really is.
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- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
It's the same at Sarthe. I see the car behind me lifting off the brakes to bump me off. Nothing accidental about that. Plus all the side swiping, pushing into the grass, squeezing off.
Getting up in SR, lot of dirty stuff going on. I'm C/S now, last race in SR.A was very dirty. Still no chance at winning, finishing 20 to 40 seconds behind the leader, finishing in 3rd or 4th place. 3:18 laps the race before last by the winner. It's fast down here!
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- Canada
There's simply too much contact, even if it is not an intentional push off the road, the rooms are so tight that if you are nudged you are going to lose several places. Qualifying at Interlagos is separated by a second from P3 to 14 sometimes, that is REALLY tight.
Without contact penalties a culture has developed of contact passing, so guys are not planning a pass, if they catch you, or get anywhere near you really, they shove it up the inside. In none of these instances would the other guy make the corner without using my cr to slow down, that's not racing.
I am not buying GT7 until I see a proper penalty system in place, I will move to ACC or Iracing, this is ruining the entire game.
Without contact penalties a culture has developed of contact passing, so guys are not planning a pass, if they catch you, or get anywhere near you really, they shove it up the inside. In none of these instances would the other guy make the corner without using my cr to slow down, that's not racing.
I am not buying GT7 until I see a proper penalty system in place, I will move to ACC or Iracing, this is ruining the entire game.
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- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I might wait until PSVR 2 if no penalty system. But I won't be able to resist the Nordschleife with dynamic time and weather. I'll go do endurance races against the AI. Maybe you can set up a multi class race to keep it interesting.
There's also a chance that the ones moving over first want clean races. GT Sport started with all good intentions until the riff raff joined lol. $70 starting price might actually be the biggest penalty system to keep dirty drivers out until price drops. It works for iRacing!
Anyway, keeping my foot on the brake at the start for a couple extra seconds does the trick to get blue SR every time (if you start at the back of course). Just let the brawl go ahead and pass all the wrecks to Tetre Rouge.
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- Vicious_Panda00
^^^ I came here to say that a penalty system needs to be implemented for GT7 or they will lose Sport community pretty fast. I've only been playing for a month and I'm already sick and tired of these bomb divers.. I get clipped, dived on, on turns I'm used as a freaking wall so others can get a smoother turn. I get matched with the same bombers all the time, I mean I know their freaking PSNs by now. Is only 100 people playing this game anymore in Sport mode?
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- United States
There is a lot more than that. You’re probably just keep getting matched up with the same names.
I agree the penalty system needs to be back as long as they found away for it to work correctly. I hate to say it but racing has been better without it to a point. Yes, you have dirty players but they will always be there, penalties or no.
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- England
- kilesa4568
Race C's leader board is a bit demoralising this week. I'm still 5 seconds off the pace
- 6,764
- Ontario
- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
I see the same people all the time as well, but I do race way too much. But it is indeed demoralizing, recognizing half a dozen names each race that will try to ruin your race, either on purpose or by seeing it as waving a red flag in front of a bull when passing them.
The payout for a clean race is pretty small on Sarthe. I made up 16 positions, finished 4th, advanced to DR.B, clean race bonus and my SR went from 80 to 89. Makes sense as one registered front to back contact hit is 1 or 2 SR lost for the race, two is straight to the misfit room (<90 SR).
It still isn't clean, while it's the cleanest time of the day, couple red Bs in that race and plenty red S. Still very fast at the top (same dirty driver doing pole to flag runs going up the same in SR). Two more to get to 99, 98 next if all goes well. One more misfit room, then see what the top split is like today.
I'm getting into the 3:23 laps, still 5 sec slower than the top :/
The payout for a clean race is pretty small on Sarthe. I made up 16 positions, finished 4th, advanced to DR.B, clean race bonus and my SR went from 80 to 89. Makes sense as one registered front to back contact hit is 1 or 2 SR lost for the race, two is straight to the misfit room (<90 SR).
It still isn't clean, while it's the cleanest time of the day, couple red Bs in that race and plenty red S. Still very fast at the top (same dirty driver doing pole to flag runs going up the same in SR). Two more to get to 99, 98 next if all goes well. One more misfit room, then see what the top split is like today.
I'm getting into the 3:23 laps, still 5 sec slower than the top :/
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- Vicious_Panda00
I'm exaggerating of course about the number of people playing and I'm aware there will always be aholes out there. I've been playing multiplayer games for a long time now. I also caught up on the history of penalty system in GTS and I wish I got the game when it was implemented so I could have some reference. Too bad that PD bent for the riff raff and removed it. It's just very frustrating to do the right thing and being punished for it so damn often.
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