"Daily" Race Discussion

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Dont forget the 3 laps sprint race. Wish they put more laps on them. There is plenty of time to do so.

I'm a big fan of Race A as well. Past few weeks I spent more time on Race C which I also like a lot. But 75% of my wins come from Race A.

When I cue for Race A during weekend my kids ask if @BenRod is there!
That's very cool!

And the answer is YES! I'm always there!

Except for the PSN blackouts and the PD server blackout, the number of days since the game launched that I have not raced Daily A can be counted on 2 hands.
 
Lol. Thought I’d do the first race B of the week after about 4 hours of trying to set a lap in a variety of cars. Just cemented my decision to give it a break. I’m 2.5s off the pace. Losing time at basically every corner. Can’t see how I can make up so much time. Everyone is in FF cars but no matter how much I try I can’t get used to them. Just understeer constantly. Tried the scirocco; TT and Megane. Probably call it quits for this week and see what next brings.
 
That's very cool!

And the answer is YES! I'm always there!

Except for the PSN blackouts and the PD server blackout, the number of days since the game launched that I have not raced Daily A can be counted on 2 hands.
Amazing amount of races, I have to say. Very nice. I’ll see if I could attempt to keep up with you (Or SvennoJ who I thought was in pole position concering amount of races) going into GT7 (assuming you’re moving on). :bowdown::cheers:
 
The answer to question 1 and 3 would perhaps make a little bit of sense in the very, very beginning of the game, even if I’d still be against it. But really, the cars featured in daily A cost peanuts and pretty much all of us have those cars in our garages. For the few that don’t and somehow lack the little money required — give us at least the opportunity to choose the set car from the garage if we have it and let the ones missing it borrow the car(s). It’s unfathomable how that hasn’t changed.

As far as the grid size goes and daily A somehow supposedly being the preferred race of beginners, wouldn’t it actually be better with a larger grid? Usually that means an even bigger spread of skill, depending on time and participation. Could definitely do with 16 as well as 20 to be honest. Same goes for B.

Definitely. Mentioned your first point above in my response to MidnightRun85 as well. At least give us the choice. There really can’t be many missing or lacking the funds to buy daily A cars. Could probably count them with a couple of hands.

As for car selection, I made a complaining post about that a few months ago, taking the liberty to quote myself:
Agree, they should definitely have changed them by now. I guess they put them in place and just left them for "new players" indefinitely.

Regarding grid size, it's definitely less imposing for a beginner to race a smaller grid of cars. Less chance of crashing into another car, less cars to be aware of, more chance of a podium or a win. So it's enticing for those without the confidence to race a full grid.

But again, it's a shame they haven't changed and upgraded the settings after a while.
 
could have competed with iracings rating system,
I highly doubt that. The reason iRacing has a rating system that works is that you have to use your real name and you have to pay real money but loose the ability to use the cars and tracks if you don't behave..
They also have human stevards that can be called in to settle differences.
This is possible because of the subscription.odel in combination with a small player base that all want the same

GT is all about accessability, they want everyone to be able to pick up and play.
What they should have done where having an SR system that separates the dirty drivers from the cleans. Let the dirty drivers race each other and the clean race clean.
 
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Lol. Thought I’d do the first race B of the week after about 4 hours of trying to set a lap in a variety of cars. Just cemented my decision to give it a break. I’m 2.5s off the pace. Losing time at basically every corner. Can’t see how I can make up so much time. Everyone is in FF cars but no matter how much I try I can’t get used to them. Just understeer constantly. Tried the scirocco; TT and Megane. Probably call it quits for this week and see what next brings.
Fastest times on the EMEA server are in the Huracan - that's 4wd, and is worth a try. Still understeers a bit, but not as bad as the FWD cars!
 
Amazing amount of races, I have to say. Very nice. I’ll see if I could attempt to keep up with you (Or SvennoJ who I thought was in pole position concering amount of races) going into GT7 (assuming you’re moving on). :bowdown::cheers:
I flew around the world for a year, took a sabbatical from GT Sport :lol:
322 days, 600K km, 7146 stops.

@BenRod is a more loyal fan, he has raced 500 days more than me!
I've taken more breaks for other games, I'm a sinner :guilty:

Impressive number of races @BenRod! With almost 3x the number of victories :bowdown:

Interesting to compare distance driven:
I've driven 575,434.688 Km, avg 40.5 km per race
You're at 384,067.488 Km, avg 18.4 km per race

Still got you 'beat' in time driven
I've driven for 148 days, 4 hours, 39 min and 10 s, avg 15.02 minutes per race
You're at 126 days, 8 hours, 21 min and 2 s, avg 11.03 minutes per race

You are truly a race A racer :) I alternate between B and C, prefer C, rarely do A and always prefer faster cars!

@graesand I think PD just gave up on the penalty system since it fundamentally can't work the way they designed it. It can only look at outcome after contact, lacking the context to determine what happened and thus not able to assign blame correctly. And they can't do shared blame since FIA opposes to that. FIA wants advantages penalized (or so I've heard) hence we got the ****** system where simply surviving a suicide bomber would net you a penalty.

Not sure why PD refused to change the SR scale to stop the yoyo effect or get rid of the DR resets to stop fast dirty drivers to mask as low DR taking easy victories, or fix the bug in matchmaking where the fastest lower SR players end up in the left over spots of rooms with the slowest higher SR players. I guess PD was too fixated on the blame side to see all the other problems.

Thus my hope is for a fully redesigned SR/DR/penalty system for GT7.

It's not to get people to move over, they could simply do a GT5, shut off the servers 6 months after GT7 comes out, if not sooner...
 
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I managed to knock a huge chunk off of time of my previous time to a 1:49.596 with a 1:49.1XX optimal! I didn't think I would even come close to that time. I'm guessing I'll be towards the front of the field with that time. But, I'll probably be near the back way behind the time of the pole sitter.
 
I managed to knock a huge chunk off of time of my previous time to a 1:49.596 with a 1:49.1XX optimal! I didn't think I would even come close to that time. I'm guessing I'll be towards the front of the field with that time. But, I'll probably be near the back way behind the time of the pole sitter.
Where do you go to find your optimal time?
 
Where do you go to find your optimal time?
There is also a screen at the end of the qualifying session that lists all the lap times broken down by sector. The optimal time will be the bottom line as OPT. You can scroll to see each lap broken down by sector and the green highlights (as seen below) are your fastest time for that sector.

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You can find the same overview on "TimeAttack", if you want test your Speed without raiting on Qualifying.

I'm not sure at this moment whats better are. Make "good" Qualifying with better Position on Race, maybe lost some Positionspapier, or start with an very bad Q Time, but the knowlege ho to drive much faster and a chance to get some better Position on Race.
 
You can find the same overview on "TimeAttack", if you want test your Speed without raiting on Qualifying.

I'm not sure at this moment whats better are. Make "good" Qualifying with better Position on Race, maybe lost some Positionspapier, or start with an very bad Q Time, but the knowlege ho to drive much faster and a chance to get some better Position on Race.
Both would get you roughly the same results. I'd always say qualify as high up as possible. That way you can avoid the messier race towards the back and you are obviously naturally closer to the front.
 
I managed to knock a huge chunk off of time of my previous time to a 1:49.596 with a 1:49.1XX optimal! I didn't think I would even come close to that time. I'm guessing I'll be towards the front of the field with that time. But, I'll probably be near the back way behind the time of the pole sitter.
I am desperately trying to get 1:49. I find that it's the degnars and hairpin where I lose all my time. I have today off due to injury so I'm gonna give it the old college try today. I won't race otherwise.
 
I only had time for one race tonight and the rust from not playing for 2 weeks really showed. When the lobby loaded, I was in P7, but some disconnects sent me to P5. Which meant nothing as I forget that a cold set of hard tires has very little grip, and I’m into the gravel after turn 1. I rejoined as safely as possible, but I think I sent a person to the shadow realm. Replay shows that they went off on their own. So, trying to navigate turns with dirty tires while trying to keep pace is making me slide all over the track. Once I switch to the medium tires, I gain enough control and rhythm to have a decent recovery drive at least. I’m cruising in P12 from lap 5 until the finish. On the last lap P9 hits P8 spins out. P8 quits and P11 and me scoot on by. I’m not paying attention and a bunch of drivers have quit since the start of the race and I finish P10 in the end.

Not the best driving from me to come back to GT Sport daily races. I did run deep a few times on some corners, but nothing too major. It was clean for the most part from what I saw where I was. Some passes made on me were aggressive but clean with some contact. Nothing like them slamming into me and shoving me aside. I did leave just enough space for them to get by so that’s fair on their part. Back at it tomorrow and I’ll remember not to go full blast into turn 1.

I am desperately trying to get 1:49. I find that it's the degnars and hairpin where I lose all my time. I have today off due to injury so I'm gonna give it the old college try today. I won't race otherwise.
Did you make any improvements? I'm still having some troubles with that section. I'm either too fast or too slow entering through that whole thing and that killed my pace in the race I did.
 
Did you make any improvements? I'm still having some troubles with that section. I'm either too fast or too slow entering through that whole thing and that killed my pace in the race I did.
Yeah, I got it to 1:49.276 and that was with a big mistake at spoon so a 48.9 seems doable. I've just been throwing it in as much as I can and enjoying the rollercoaster ride. What fun it is.

No races yet but it's a given that I will screw up turn one on hards my first time.
 
Race C is such a mess and yet I am still doing it. I don't expect a 100% clean race anymore, that hope seems to have died in a brutal fire. So things gets physical instead and I have to enjoy the few moments of fun when I get to race someone that drives by the book.

I hope that all those that complained about the many different penalty systems well be just as vocal about how happy they are if we get any kind of penalty system in GT7.
Because what we have now is slowly but surely getting worse.
 
Race C is such a mess and yet I am still doing it. I don't expect a 100% clean race anymore, that hope seems to have died in a brutal fire. So things gets physical instead and I have to enjoy the few moments of fun when I get to race someone that drives by the book.

I hope that all those that complained about the many different penalty systems well be just as vocal about how happy they are if we get any kind of penalty system in GT7.
Because what we have now is slowly but surely getting worse.
Yeah it's not enjoyable at all. I start on hard tires at the back, pit in lap 4, best I can do. Yet A+ drivers already pit in lap 1 or 2, end up behind me on fresh mediums and make no effort to make a clean pass. Yesterday I did one race and got bumped off, cut off and pushed off by 5 different A+ drivers that pitted early. No thanks, don't want to do another.

If there is a gap, i.e. you leave room, you get run off, can't leave any space for the other car...
If there is no gap, bump to make a gap.
 
Going forward, if they aren't going to do anything about the penalty system, maybe the ghosting can be tiered.

Race A could be used for beginners and leave the ghosting the way it is for E and D ranked drivers.

Race B the ghosting could be a little less and also bring in light damage.

Race C the ghosting could be completely off and bring in full damage.

I know some people out there will still "game" the system. But at least it would be something and everyone would know what to expect. Right now it's a crap shoot.
 
I give up for this week I think. I've only been able to drive again since Wednesday, but both routes/vehicle combinations don't seem to suit me.
Seaside in this direction is somehow incomprehensible to me, although I love it in the other direction and am quite good. But this week I'm having trouble driving consistently 1:48, faster times are out of the question. This may also be due to the fact that I do NOT like FF at all.

And Suzuka is not exactly my favorite track, but it goes relatively well, but I'm not able to move the Nissan "correctly" in any way, either I always lose a little time in all sectors and thus only achieve times of around 1:50 or I'm doing really well in 1-2 sectors, but then throw the car off the track so violently in one sector that it feels like it takes me an hour to find my rhythm again. Also really great, I have good sector times and then I turn the car in the 180 degree bend or in the last chicane, or the very last bend before the start and finish, because I lose traction due to too much gas.
It's jinxed this week.

I haven't done a B or C race yet this week because my qualifying times are way too bad anyway. I don't want to be a "victim" or a stumbling block on the track.

So far I'm quite happy with the Road to GT7 event, I'm finding more and more time on the track every day. (I haven't been there for a long time and "only" a B class driver)
 
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