Deltawing just went missing! UPDATE: Reappeared, but got a child.

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The DeltaWing just reminds me of this....just listen what Martin Lawrence says after he starts about the cupholders :lol:

As far as the deltawing is concerned. To bad it was removed from the game for the people who want to drive it. Personally I don't mind at all.
 
The new Mr Bean game has an exclusive license for the road going version.

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I'll be seeing Taku Imasaki and other SCEA folks at SEMA tomorrow and will hopefully be able to get some clarification on the situation.

For the record, Kazunori Yamauchi will not be at SEMA or the GT Awards this year, as he has chosen to stay in Japan to help finish GT6.

Any chance you could give a little info on your experience with GT6? AI, sounds, the career mode? Pretty please. :)
 
Do you have ANY source what so ever to suggest that Turn 10 has ANY exclusive rights regarding ALMS? Or are you just one of the MANY people on this site who immidiately jump to the conclusion that if one dev has a certain car or racing franchise, and another dev doesn't, then it must be an exclusive deal? Jesus christ people, stop presenting rumours that you have no basis for, as likely possibilities!
Just ask they guys from Radio Le Mans, they KNOW.
 
Can the DeltaWing just be called the Panoz Nissan DeltaWing? It reminds me of the BMW McLaren F1 FINA Long nose race car. It is a McLaren F1 but it's licensed under BMW.
 
Maybe a sprinkle of hope, maybe a screw-up within the screw-up where they missed to remove one image on the website:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_8646105.html

Expand the 53 images and you'll see it's still there

Ya, it's still there, but it may just be that they forgot to remove that image... or that the car may still come later to the game and PD is just waiting for Nissan/Panoz to get done with the legal mess, so that PD know if they can or can't use the car in game (and who will authorize it), it's just like PD is trying to stay out of this until it's solved..

Just hope that after this is done, and PD get the green light to add it to the game, that they don't charge us for the car..
 
I'll be seeing Taku Imasaki and other SCEA folks at SEMA tomorrow and will hopefully be able to get some clarification on the situation.

For the record, Kazunori Yamauchi will not be at SEMA or the GT Awards this year, as he has chosen to stay in Japan to help finish GT6.

Thank you very much Jordan !
 
It'll be a shame if we don't get it back, I was looking forward to the unique experience that car is capable of.:(
 
No one is paying attention to the top note of the car list, it's not final.

I don't think anyone here is really blaming PD for this, so their disclaimer isn't really relevant - if they'd published that list 12 months ago, then it would be more reasonable. But, they've featured the car in their advertising, lots of people were expecting it, and clearly PD were too. The frustration (for me at least) isn't that PD mislead us, it's that the car was clearly intended to be in the game, and somebody somewhere has decided to leverage the fact the game is only a month from release, probably to get quick settlement and royalties.

As I said earlier in the thread, I probably won't miss the DW much myself (though more than the F1 cars that's for sure!), I just dislike the fact that the rug gets pulled from under our, and PD's, feet at such late notice.
 
Maybe not on topic but why did they remove some other car's pics from other categories here ? Since there were 6 cars in each category yesterday?
 
Jordan : I hope you take this opportunity for ask him (Taku) some of these questions as the number of event in career mode :) Thank
 
I don't think anyone here is really blaming PD for this, so their disclaimer isn't really relevant - if they'd published that list 12 months ago, then it would be more reasonable. But, they've featured the car in their advertising, lots of people were expecting it, and clearly PD were too. The frustration (for me at least) isn't that PD mislead us, it's that the car was clearly intended to be in the game, and somebody somewhere has decided to leverage the fact the game is only a month from release, probably to get quick settlement and royalties.

As I said earlier in the thread, I probably won't miss the DW much myself (though more than the F1 cars that's for sure!), I just dislike the fact that the rug gets pulled from under our, and PD's, feet at such late notice.

I do think we will get it in the game as dlc, eventually after the dispute is settled. What boggles my mind, is that the FIA has nothing to say about it (that the zeod will be unnable to partake in the event)

After a little reading, i stumbled to looking at Autoweek, one of my favorite car mags second to topgear magazine.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130914/motorsports/130919894

Here it describes in detail the whole events from the day after the 2012 24 hours of le mans. What i found interesting, is that Mr. Panoz is suing over the Coupe version (the closed monocoque[the chrome one]) and not the "batmobile" that we were expecting. Why was it taken down then? Here's what i assume:

Ben Bowlby is like Adrian Newey of red bull. They both draw up cars, maybe one does it on a CAD and the other by pencil, but that doesnt matter. Mr. Bowlby was first teamed up with Highcroft to design a car with their "tub" design. He did so and helped modify the car to fit the Nissan power plant, after engine struggles from highcroft. After the 2012 24 Hour Le Mans race, the project was pretty much scrapped by highcroft and bought by mr panoz. He, along with other designers from his own racing teams, designed the DeltaWing Coupe (not the Nissan Deltawing.. two different cars). Mr panoz put up the cars for sale (i think three) for privateer racing groups, but Mr. Panoz sponsored one of the DeltaWings himself. The DeltaWing has basically come to its end in racing now, since Mr. Panoz has settled not to race it with his own team, but rather to "liquidate" them off to privateers.

Now Nissan comes back in for 2014's 24 Hours of Le Mans, with their ZEOD RC (Zero Emissions On Demand Racing Car). Ben Bowlby, who was hiding from designing cars, was picked up by nissan to design the ZEOD. Basically, using patents HE, Ben Bowlby, submitted, used HIS drawings to create the ZEOD, due to its lightweightness.

Now that Mr. Panoz has seen this ZEOD, he claims it is patent infringment with his DeltaWing coupe. Supposivley, his plan is to stop Nissan from partaking in the 24 hour race, to submit his own, but that hasnt been confirmed.

So, what can we sum up? Ben Bowlby will be going to court to prove that his drawings are different. Which in fact, they are. What we are basically talking about is the Nissan Deltawing and the Nissan ZEOD, two cars owned by Nissan at one point, now suing their arms and legs. Ever sinc Mr. Panoz bought the Nissan Deltawing, he has been using his own DeltaWing coupe. So there are technically three cars we are talking about. Mr Bowlby's deltawing (the Nissan Deltawing), mr Panoz's deltawing (the DeltaWing coupe), and Nissan's ZEOD. It is basically Mr. panoz's design, versus the Nissan ZEOD, but nissan used the Nissan Deltawing to design the ZEOD. That is why we dont have the Nissan deltawing.

There is probably no chance we will ever see the DeltaWing coupe, but if the case turns in Nissan's hands, there is a good probability to see the ZEOD and the Nissan Deltawing return..
 
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