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When I saw it it was silver grey...
Ah, well, still, kind of close to black. I still can't get used to a 2-taillight Ferrari and those horrible wheels.
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Ah, well, still, kind of close to black. I still can't get used to a 2-taillight Ferrari and those horrible wheels.
The one sold so far in Denver was indeed black, although the first one sold in Atlanta was red. We'll see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if I do see the black one this summer in Denver. Frankly, I just want to see it - especially those C-pillars in real life. Admit it, they're so cool.
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The one sold so far in Denver was indeed black, although the first one sold in Atlanta was red. We'll see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if I do see the black one this summer in Denver. Frankly, I just want to see it - especially those C-pillars in real life. Admit it, they're so cool.
Yeah, I noticed. And I agree.
It's amazing how well they blend in with the design, that you actually have to look to notice them.
Agreed - it's so unique I feel like you can't appreciate it without viewing it in person - sort of like Volvo's "floating" center console.
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I have seen a bunch of pictures of the 599 and I did not even notice the flying buttresses until I had read about them in a magazine. After having read about them in a magazine, it took me a bit to pick them out. Now I pretty much notice them all the time in pictures, but I still really would love to see them in person. They really do blend well into the car if you do not know about them being on the car.
Agreed - and they're such an interesting feature. Do they have any design function, or is it just to get people talking (and looking)?
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From what I have read in the magazines, they are there to provide some help in the aerodynamics department, i.e. more downforce. While the car does not make a whole lot of downforce, the flying buttresses are there to aid in downforce production, along with the front skirt, underbody and the rear diffuser. Like Toronado said and this quoted from Road and Track, "they channel the air aound the rear window twoard the rear depression zone and the diminutive lip on the trunklid".
I really wish I had a scanner so I could post this article from R&T, as it was a pretty good one.
I really wish I had a scanner so I could post this article from R&T, as it was a pretty good one.
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I dunno if I would go that far (though the undertray diffusers probably help immensely), but it certainly fits better than a massive spoiler mounted to the boot. Whether Ferrari can transform that freedom associated with a lack of any tumorous spoilers into a good looking car is a controversial opinion that I don't think applies to Ferrari at the moment (at least if the Maserati MC12 has taught us anything), but it does at least give the stylists and opportunity to do so.
That being said, the rear end is said to be more stable than the (in my opinion far better looking) 575M, so I guess it works "well enough," and is a nice touch anyways.
That being said, the rear end is said to be more stable than the (in my opinion far better looking) 575M, so I guess it works "well enough," and is a nice touch anyways.
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The one sold so far in Denver was indeed black, although the first one sold in Atlanta was red. We'll see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if I do see the black one this summer in Denver. Frankly, I just want to see it - especially those C-pillars in real life. Admit it, they're so cool.
wouldnt the car be more aerodynamic without them, and just a roof?
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The flying buttresses are there to direct airflow from the area around the rear windshield to the very small rear lip and thus making the rear lip more efficient at making downforce that it would otherwise be without the flying buttresses. But if you are talking about drag, then most likely without the flying buttresses would make the car have a very slightly less amount of drag, but at the tradeoff of a little less downforce also.
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I am really disappointed with what Ferrari and Pininfarina has done with the styling. I really wish they had put twin taillights at the read and made the front end less fussy. The flying butresses look like an afterthought too, no matter how functional they are, especially the way the are attached with a shutline at both ends. In my eyes the Maranello was far nicer and screamed Ferrari way more than this. If the 599 was a 2+2 GT, then I would have a lot more time for it, but as it is I'm disappointed. The interior is absolutely beautiful though. Those leather/carbon fibre seats, droolingly so...
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The front end is too busy, with too many lines all over the place. Not too bad, though. The rear, however, is an atrocity. Looks like someone took an SC430 and pumped it up with a bicycle pump, complete with blistering tail-lights and all.
Now, the difference between the 599 and 575M is not as great (because the 575M was rather *bleh*) as the difference between the 456M and the 612 (because I thought the 456 was a truly beautiful car, whereas the 612 can't seem to do anything right), but in my opinion the 599 just isn't as nice overall as the 575.
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Today on the roads caught a Prowler and last-gen NSX in a gorgeous yellow!
As for rarity, how about these?
1) 1988 Lamborghini LM002
2) Ferrari 360 Challenge
3) Ferrari 348t Serie Speciale #36 of 100. Rarer than the LM002.
4) Shelby GT350
5) An older Porsche. The owner in the building said when he bought it years ago, he had the dealer put on this $20,000 kit including the slant nose, whalefin, and engine modifications.
You'll see the plates later. There was also a S2000 with a small lip spoiler I felt worth mentioning due that I haven't seen a S2000 in quite a few months.
As for rarity, how about these?
1) 1988 Lamborghini LM002
2) Ferrari 360 Challenge
3) Ferrari 348t Serie Speciale #36 of 100. Rarer than the LM002.
4) Shelby GT350
5) An older Porsche. The owner in the building said when he bought it years ago, he had the dealer put on this $20,000 kit including the slant nose, whalefin, and engine modifications.
You'll see the plates later. There was also a S2000 with a small lip spoiler I felt worth mentioning due that I haven't seen a S2000 in quite a few months.
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Well, I'll be dipped, that Lambo is good looking!
On a different note, I went to a BMW dealer today with my dad, just for the heck of it, and the 750Li has the most wonderful interior. Also, the 5 is really nothing special on the inside, hardly worth the badge.
On a different note, I went to a BMW dealer today with my dad, just for the heck of it, and the 750Li has the most wonderful interior. Also, the 5 is really nothing special on the inside, hardly worth the badge.
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Interesting. I actually agree with a lot of what's said here, but I'm reserving judgment for when I see one. The fussy front end thing is definitely something with which I concur, at least as it appears in photos.
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Nice spots - be careful calling the 348 rarer than the LM002; that particular edition may be but nearly 10,000 348s were made in total. I've seen vehicles that are much rarer than the LM002, like the Gallardo Nera which is 1 of 185, but I would never consider it rarer, since upwards of 3,000 Gallardos have been made so far. Where'd you see these cars??
TODAY:
Aston-Martin:
- V8 Vantage
Bentley:
- Arnage
- Arnage Red Label (1 2) (North Carolina plates)
- Continental GT (1 2)
- Continental GT
Dodge:
- Viper RT/10 (Emory plates!)
Maserati:
- Quattroporte
- Quattroporte Sport GT
- Quattroporte
- Quattroporte
Maybach:
- 57S (1 2)
Mazda:
- CX-9
Mercedes-Benz:
- CL600 (new model)
Rolls-Royce:
- Phantom
HIGHLIGHTS:
I've got you highlights.
Volkswagen Phaeton W12. And in case you didn't know it was a twelve-cylinder, the license plate said W12 VW - from my county, no less! Incredible car - I've seen about four at this point.
Those are twenty-six-inch rims, ladies and gentlemen, and this was simply the loudest car I've ever heard, save the Countach I saw in October.
And, three Gallardos, three colors:
Lovely day, as always. The record stands: each Saturday since September 9, I have seen either a Maybach or a Phantom and either a Lamborghini or a Ferrari.
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It better be. Those 4 huge circles of rubber are over a grand a piece.
Well, that particular model is rarer than the LM002 since there's only 100 of those white 348s and 300 LM002s. However, it could go either way given there are only a dozen or so LM002 Estates.
And I totally understand about the Nera. Reason for my last trip.
These were at Lamborghini Dallas, and I felt they were worthy here since A) When are we going to be seeing actual 360 Challenges (not the CS; same thing, yes, but you get what I mean) on the roads and B) how many of you have actually seen a GT350, LM002, and a Serie Speciale model 348 besides one or 2 of you on the roads?
BTW, good spotting on the Quattroporte Sport GT, Doug. 👍
Only ever seen one classic V8 - the new model is all the rage these days.*McLaren*
Ten grand if you buy OEM - the original manufacturer doesn't make them anymore, and you can only get them either by paying them an absurd amount to re-make them, or buying from someone else.
To my knowledge, there's just one.
Lord - hadn't even caught that - good call! 👍
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That is the first time I have ever seen a picture of the Quattroporte in red. I have only really seen the car in silver and blue I think. Very cool spotting to see it in a different color like that. And very nice spottings all around!
Also great pictures of the LM002, GT350, 360 Challenge, and 348. And what was the difference in those particular 348s?
Also great pictures of the LM002, GT350, 360 Challenge, and 348. And what was the difference in those particular 348s?
