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This one is almost as bad as the "GT didn't do it first so it isn't worth doing" excuse.
Do you think the "competition" ever crosses PD's mind?
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No, can't agree with that. Think about all the businesses that were at the top of the heap and then went out of business. Why, cause somebody else came out with something that did it better than they were offering. Blockbuster is a great example. They were the king of the hill but they didn't change and didn't innovate. Now look at them. Just a shell of their former self, with Redbox and Netflix taking the lions share of their market.
If PD doesn't keep improving and bringing that wow factor to GT then someone else will and GT will be an afterthought.
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Are we seeing different Forza 4 trailers?
When a game's selling point is graphics, I don't care for it much. Graphics means nothing. In fact, GT5 would have been better off with worse graphics so they could put more content in. As for GT5's "endless content" it's missing quite a few things that its competition provide, as has been said over and over.
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GT5 has 3D, head tracking, day/night cycles, weather in few tracks, upto 16cars, premiums with movable parts, high, low beam, 800+ standard cars, amazing city tracks, rally, F1 cars, Nascar, go-karts, top gear track, course maker. Which ever way you look it is more than others.
I am sure pretty soon they will announce another game on PS3 and probably have only premiums with more tracks and events.
I am sure pretty soon they will announce another game on PS3 and probably have only premiums with more tracks and events.
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So much wrong with this thread and many others that go this direction. If you don't care to argue with some of these people, please stop replying to the ones who just can't stop their horrible arguments.
This is GTPLANET.
This is GTPLANET.
This really does sum it up. People just want too much. Kaz has spent 19 continuous years on GT, starting in 1992. Could you ask for more out of an unfinished game?
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800+ PS2/PSP cars, and high & low beams as features?
Man, you are desperately grasping for straws for your argument.
The bulk of what you listed has been in most of the big racing games. Features also don't mean much if you can't deliver on them. And judging by most, PD dropped the ball with the standards, weather, rallying, & Top Gear.
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I'm going to give PD the benefit of the doubt this time. Who knows exactly what the deal was between PD & Sony; and we can only speculate as to what is in the mind of Kaz. GT6 will be the real test to me, like connecting the dots from 5 to 6. It'll show the true direction the franchise is headed.
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800+ PS2/PSP cars, and high & low beams as features?
Man, you are desperately grasping for straws for your argument.
The bulk of what you listed has been in most of the big racing games. Features also don't mean much if you can't deliver on them. And judging by most, PD dropped the ball with the standards, weather, rallying, & Top Gear.
Name me a game that has all those features. Standard cars all have new physics.
They din't drop anything. Look at how many classic PS2 games Sony are remastering on HD and 3D support. They could have easily made GT HD say during Forza3 if they were concerned. Sold it as a PSN game and made some money as well.
Due to some reason they decided to cancel GT HD idea and include everything in one package.
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Not really important IMO.
In one mode.
On three or so tracks
One of the worst things ever done considering how long it took.
Cool, but not exactly huge.
Forza with 600 cars feels like it has more than GT with 1000, IMO.
Not this way, all you did was list GT5's features, not even comparing to other games or acknowledging where GT5's features are very limited, like weather.
Secondly, amount of content was never the issue at hand, at least with me. It's quality. There is no livery editor, no telemetry, the car list is full of duplicates, the course maker was outdone by PS2 games, car tuning has barely progress in over a decade and actually stepped backwards in some areas. Content wise, GT5 is average.
I love that people take gaming websites as fact. Do you understand how those people make their money? Effectively, you give them the cash they give you the ratings... Mafia 2 is a good example. **** game that would have been lucky to get a seven. Gets 8.7 or some ******** from Gamespot. From one week after game release, there has been nothing but abuse thrown at 2k on their forums.
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Forza had some 400 odd cars at release and then they sold DLC including Nurburgring GP track and then again they kept on selling it and finally made a special edition with some exclusive cars and basically forced people to buy the game again to get those cars.
3D is a feature they had to put as Sony is pushing it. Weather and day/night cycle is was basically a bonus. head tracking is useless I think but looks cool in go-karts. Premiums detail was obviously important too. Nurburgring was also redone.
From the E3 interviews/footage I've seen, FM4 seems so feature rich online and offline that it makes GT5 look quaint, and anachronistic. Kinect integration, proper use of the Top Gear Licence, dynamic career mode, online mode that's light years ahead of Gt5's offering. I just hope that PD can have a bit of humility, and look at all the features western racing devs bring to the table and incorporate them into GT6... otherwise it'll just be a really pretty Dinosaur of a game - with awesome physics 
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It wouldn't matter if I did; a good portion of those features are not fully implemented. Rallying is missing the from main career point of the game for once. Day/Night only works on a couple tracks. Same with weather.
Don't do the feature if you half-ass them.
Yeah, yeah they did. 800+ standard cars was the biggest ball dropper. T10 showing what they're doing with the TG license is already proving that many here wish PD had done more themselves.
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As I said in my previous post they could have sold a seperate GT HD and still made millions instead. Putting all in one is actually getting more for the amount of money you pay. DLC is not bad idea but by selling a game in parts and getting more money is the worst thing that can happen
As far as day/night cycle, night racing, weather goes I think it is great they have that because other racing games din't and same goes for course maker, 3D. The next game will just build on these features
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It might drop them entirely like GT2 dropped turbo pressure, GT3 dropped RM, GT4 dropped qualify, etc.
Also I'm pretty sure LeMans 24 hr has day/night on PS2, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Yep, I was right. And there was even more actually
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=80851
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Microsoft has been trying since 2001, with the first PGR (which was a bag of ****).
EDIT: Wow that steering wheel is full of win. LOL. And when you need a break from Forza, it doubles as a horse shoe for a quick, impromptu game of horse shoes.
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Sorry but it's hard to take Forza seriously if this is what they have to offer to play their video game.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207372
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Ignore prymet1me, he's just trolling
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Comparing a released game to an unreleased game is silly.
Still I'll grab my snacks and check back now and again for sig worthy material.
Carry on.
Still I'll grab my snacks and check back now and again for sig worthy material.
Carry on.
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Laugh out loud, seems GT fans are the ones trolling hard. Good good let it flow through you. I will check back later.
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