Driveclub

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From all the videos I've seen DC looks stunning, certainly prettier than FH2.

That's not saying much. DriveClub better look prettier than Horizon 2. Being prettier isn't really a noteworthy accomplishment, but being equal or worse would be a massive failure on their part. This is because the PS4 hardware is known to be the better hardware, so the bar is naturally going to be set higher. H2 shouldn't look as pretty because it can't very well look as pretty.

And me personally am glad it's not open world, the novelty of that doesn't last very long imo.

Cool..., but not particularly meaningful. There's a massive demand for open-world games. While it's never been that big of a thing for me, either, I don't mind it and enjoyed the first Horizon, and there's plenty of players that want this sort of thing. DC not being open-world doesn't matter any more than FM or GT not being open-world, but personally not caring for open-world games doesn't matter, either.


We'll see. A lot of players would probably view this declaration as akin to declaring that Danica Patrick could be the racing driver to beat this year.
 
I was interested in this game (very interested actually), until E3 came around and Paul Rustchynsky, from Evolution Studios said: "cars you can only unlock through clubs". Content usable and visible in single-player that requires online play to unlock is, for me, one of the unforgivable sins of games. Initially I thought I might have heard it wrong but an IGN interview pretty much confirmed it. You might say: "Driveclub is a game about clubs. Of course that would happen". However, according to the original game director back in 2013, things were not going to be that way. In his own words "unlock the content the way you want to". Things changed. It's sad but, at least, I got to know that detail before I actually bought the game, which is good.
 
I was interested in this game (very interested actually), until E3 came around and Paul Rustchynsky, from Evolution Studios said: "cars you can only unlock through clubs". Content usable and visible in single-player that requires online play to unlock is, for me, one of the unforgivable sins of games. Initially I thought I might have heard it wrong but an IGN interview pretty much confirmed it. You might say: "Driveclub is a game about clubs. Of course that would happen". However, according to the original game director back in 2013, things were not going to be that way. In his own words "unlock the content the way you want to". Things changed. It's sad but, at least, I got to know that detail before I actually bought the game, which is good.

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That's pretty much the end of DriveClub for me. That's one of the most stupidest ways to unlock content... I'm sorry but, I'm officially done with this game. That's two games I'm not getting for the PS4 now. This and The Crew, they both suck (IMO) because they focus way too damn much on stupid online, I'm sick of it! :mad:
 
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That's not saying much. DriveClub better look prettier than Horizon 2. Being prettier isn't really a noteworthy accomplishment, but being equal or worse would be a massive failure on their part. This is because the PS4 hardware is known to be the better hardware, so the bar is naturally going to be set higher. H2 shouldn't look as pretty because it can't very well look as pretty.
Some say the difference isn't that big and we're just to ignore the advantage the PS4 has and focus on the games. Some say the advantage is significant and the PS4 better surpass the XBOX ONE in graphical performance. Consumers, man. :rolleyes:

Horizon 2 should look pretty for being a next-gen game, but of course it isn't, or at least not pretty enough in my eyes; it looks like something current gen and doesn't blow my mind like what I expect from something proper "next-gen".

That's pretty much the end of DriveClub for me. That's one of the most stupidest ways to unlock content... I'm sorry but, I'm officially done with this game. That's two games I'm not getting for the PS4 now. This and The Crew, they both suck (IMO) because they focus way too damn much on stupid online, I'm sick of it! :mad:
Well, too bad I guess. Enjoy your off-roading Lamborghini Huracan. :ill: (Also the reason I ain't big on The Crew)
 
Well, too bad I guess. Enjoy your off-roading Lamborghini Huracan. :ill:

For Evolution Studios' sake, I hope they never have this attitude. When your consumer doesn't have brand allegiances, especially, and just plays what he thinks is best, you don't say "Don't like our game? Then go play X", because, what that consumer will do, is simply say "goodbye" and go play X. No money for you. Repeat process with enough people and you're in trouble.

P.S - Just a small opinion: Driveclub's graphics are better than it's "opponent" overall, but not by a significant margin. In fact, I believe Driveclub actually may lose on the car detail category.

Also, Lamborghinis are capable of driving in surfaces other than smooth asphalt. The depiction of just how much off-road you can go is most likely inaccurate in both games.
 
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Driveclub was always advertised as being a social racing game. I like offline games, but if anyone are surprised that Driveclub is going to be multiplayer heavy to such an extend that playing it entirely offline will be a lackluster experience, then they are the ones who are in the wrong. Evolution Studio has been very forthright in their advertising concerning this.
 
These two developers are trying waaay to hard to be "it's all about being social" or "It's all about being online all the time", whereas FH2 keeps them balanced.

Honestly what a joke to attempt being different but the wrong way at doing it...
Since the E3 reveal last year DriveClub was advertised as a social game, it was and it has been for the last year and a half.

The Crew was also shown as a social game, it being an MMO game since it was anounced.




Here I'm wondering how long until the edit of "delete please" comes around.
 
Well The Crew is a massive game, the social aspect of it is totally justified. People would be pissed if you didn't get to drive such an amazing world with your friends.

The focus of the game isn't the problem, tha fact that you can't play it offline is, even if you choose not to interact with anybody, you still have to be connected.

However, Driveclub is just stupid, it doesn't have anything special (like a massive, changing open world) that justifies their social focus. Clubs isn't even a thing, you'd expect that as a standard for all kinds of games.
 
Since the E3 reveal last year DriveClub was advertised as a social game, it was and it has been for the last year and a half.

The Crew was also shown as a social game, it being an MMO game since it was anounced.




Here I'm wondering how long until the edit of "delete please" comes around.
In your dreams. :mischievous:
 
However, Driveclub is just stupid, it doesn't have anything special (like a massive, changing open world) that justifies their social focus. Clubs isn't even a thing, you'd expect that as a standard for all kinds of games.

You are very wrong, Everything about Driveclub is geared towards social gaming. The clubs, the lap time challenges for "sectors" on the track, and the racing itself is all about friendly compitition between real people.
 
You are very wrong, Everything about Driveclub is geared towards social gaming. The clubs, the lap time challenges for "sectors" on the track, and the racing itself is all about friendly compitition between real people.

So it's like Burnout Paradise minus the open world and vast single player. See? Basically your brand new NFS developed by Evolution instead of Criterion.
 
So it's like Burnout Paradise minus the open world and vast single player. See? Basically your brand new NFS developed by Evolution instead of Criterion.

Then change the game's original handling from being like NFS The Run-meets-simulator to being like the MW2012/Rivals garbage we are fed up with.
 
Driveclub was always advertised as being a social racing game. I like offline games, but if anyone are surprised that Driveclub is going to be multiplayer heavy to such an extend that playing it entirely offline will be a lackluster experience, then they are the ones who are in the wrong. Evolution Studio has been very forthright in their advertising concerning this.

I, personally, always knew that Driveclub would be a heavily social game and I was okay with that because the essentials of offline were still being covered regardless. You were going to have a single-player campaign (even if short) and, most importantly, you were going to be able to set up custom races with all sorts of parameters for excellent replay value. It had also been stated before (in 2013), by the lead developer at the time, that everything in the game could be unlocked by playing offline, if you wanted to. It would just be a more inefficient and time-consuming method compared to joining a club (the main point of the game), but you could still get there. Now, with a new head of development, they changed this and therefore there's disappointment on my part.
 
This game is not worth spending money on it. If it will be available for free then it's the only reason to play but if they charge money for it, then we all should punish developer for FALSE promises.

First it suppose to be ready at the PS4 launch, which it was a LIE because it wasn't even ready on 10%. That's why developer crossed of the list and start really work on it.

And even then what i see is not promising at all. Sad but true.

ohh and one more thing.

Project Cars, we will not waste our money on Drive Club so you make sure not to disappoint us 👍
 
@ussr missing the PS4 launch deadline was not a lie, it was just them underestimating the tasks they had, Its not like the PS4 box advertises that Driveclub is included with it.
 
In my opinion it was a lie. Construct to lure customers. I was cheated, i do not regret that I've purchased PS4 it's the best gaming machine on the market today. But i was counting on Drive Club at launch. Now when i watch game plays i see that this game is not worth buying. Heavy arcade driving style does not convincing me. I would pay for Ridge Racer but not this. My money ill spend on Project Cars :)
 
@ussr missing the PS4 launch deadline was not a lie, it was just them underestimating the tasks they had, Its not like the PS4 box advertises that Driveclub is included with it.
I belive that it was never intended for launch and that they knew it would never be anywhere near ready for launch, They just used it to pimp the PS4
 
While I hold some grudge against this game I don't see it being either worse, not better than it's release date competitors.

Part of the problem is the delusion that a open world concept makes a game better, while it clearly doesn't. For example I don't remember NFS Underground being any less good for having several circuits layouts and not having an open world structure, I don't remember Burnout 3 being any less fun for having 3 main scenarios and like a hundred variations, same for older Test Drive games, old NFS games, and so on. As fantastic as the map was in Test Drive Unlimited 2 it didn't made it better than the small but cleverly layout map for Forza Horizon and so on.

IMO a game doesn't need to be open world to be more fun, what it needs to be is to have a well constructed driving model, with a set of interesting challenges and tons of activities, what an open world game does is take the uniqueness of some track designs in favour of content, and that's a trend that has been overdone for the last ... 10 years (from NFSU2, to any need for speed game onwards except from Pro street, Shift and The Run, burnout became open world before becoming NFS, TDU2 missed the point in having a massive map, and so on and so forth).

I believe that both Horizon 2 and The Crew will be inevitably good (they being designed over an open world racing concept), and I believe this could be just as good and probably even more varied (not as varied as The Crew, but in the gameplay aspect the driving model is what dictates such a thing).

I'm weary of the concept of having a massive map with around the same scenery, that just making the same colour pallets, identical assets and a handful of unique 3D models to make the map more varied than what it actually is.



DC understands that, and instead goes for a full on diversity approach to the game, from snow to desert, to jungle, to valleys to forests. I miss that kind of diversity, and as much as I like the setting in FH2 I can't shake the feeling that it will mostly be just areas surrounding Monte Carlo and maybe a bit of Tuscany, The Crew is going for full on variety and is pretty much a purchase for me, although I will wait until the game comes out, try it and then see if I purchase it (not falling for it after I fell for WD). As a plus user I got a taste of the game to see what is like, and I'll decide if it's worth the additional price. But it being a worse game for not being open world is a bit ridiculous, I play Burnout 3 every now and then and I play it more than Horizon 1 or TDU, both of which I got fed up with their settings and never bothered into playing again.
 
I belive that it was never intended for launch and that they knew it would never be anywhere near ready for launch, They just used it to pimp the PS4

It very nearly made me put money down on the console, even though there is nothing else that interests me that I can't find elsewhere, but I had a feeling it wouldn't be ready for launch.

Luckily I was right and didn't make the purchase. Think the time where Driveclub was going to be relevant has kind of passed, could have been all-time great launch title. Now it will probably be a forgotten about game where the full version will be flogged on PS-plus, where all great carcass' end up.
 
...it will probably be a forgotten about game where the full version will be flogged on PS-plus, where all great carcass' end up.
Hmm, like Borderlands 2 you mean? ;)

@ussr - I'd like to know where you got the info that the game was only 10% done when launch time came around - I mean, the menu integration was the reason I'd heard, so I'd like to see your source, otherwise, your opionion would be the only lie involved.
 

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