E3 Rumour gt6 coming to ps4 1080p 60fps

[The Stig Farmer]

If you want the real thing go drive real cars.

Alrighty

 

[Davoxx]

Yeah sadly we are in 2014 were the graphic details are the only thing that seem to matter for some gamers of today (screw the fun of the game and playability)
They are able to do interiors but at the cost of much less car quantity.

I didnt say the opposite.


Immersion is a very overrated and "void" term a video game. Its still a game and always will be. There is no immersion really. If you want the real thing go drive real cars.

You drive cars because the pretty interiors? Its really a weird way to enjoy the game if you ask me.

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the fecking interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, thats the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

Because of PD you are used to now to the mediocrity sadly ! If I was only interested in gameplay I will be on PC Sim instead of gt6 that is why graphics matter equal as gameplay , that is the main point !

 

[FT-1]

If you want the real thing go drive real cars.

Not everyone has the time, money or even ability to race real cars on a circuit. Maybe you don't feel the same way as many others on the forum, but immersion means a lot in a game where it is near impossible for us to ever drive a racing car around tracks around the world. If we are buying a product labelled as 'The Real Driving Simulator', we should expect nothing but the most authentic experience we can get with today's technology. It is possible to create a realistic interior for all cars nowadays, no reason why PD can't manage.

(reason for edit: unfinished last sentence)

 

[NixxxoN]

Alrighty

Nope, in the case of those, you will never be able to experience the real thing sorry, too expensive and games are no match and will never be.

Because of PD now you are used to to the mediocrity now sadly ! If I was only interested in gameplay I will be on PC Sim instead of gt6 that is why graphics matter equal as gameplay , that is the main point !

Nope, first of all, I'm an oldschool gamer - I play games since the 8 bits consoles and I can enjoy games without being obsessed with graphics. Believe me - gameplay is far far more important than graphics.
Because of people obsessed with graphics, we'll end up getting games with amazing graphics and no content. Look at Forza 5. Rubbish.
Highly detailed graphics take SO much time and effort.
Far less content = far less gameplay possibilities and far less game life.

Not everyone has the time, money or even ability to race real cars on a circuit. Maybe you don't feel the same way as many others on the forum, but immersion means a lot in a game where it is near impossible for us to ever drive a racing car around tracks around the world. If we are buying a product labelled as 'The Real Driving Simulator', we should expect nothing but the most authentic experience we can get with today's technology. It is possible to create a realistic interior

The thing is, a highly realistic simulation machine is so expensive, maybe it would be better to pay for the real thing. You need a G-Force chair for a start, and its not cheap.

 

[Swagger897]

IMO the best game I can think of with good immersion (say in an open cockpit) was shift 2. Although the blur was like WTF, it is much more rounded off than GT 's square and sharp lines, much opposite of what my peripherals are actually seeing... However, peripherals should not be controlled by the game, but rather the player. If that was even possible to pull off back then I'm sure they would use it...

 

[Johnnypenso]

Yeah sadly we are in 2014 were the graphic details are the only thing that seem to matter for some gamers of today (screw the fun of the game and playability)
They are able to do interiors but at the cost of much less car quantity.

I didnt say the opposite.


Immersion is a very overrated and "void" term a video game. Its still a game and always will be. There is no immersion really. If you want the real thing go drive real cars.

You drive cars because the pretty interiors? Its really a weird way to enjoy the game if you ask me.

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the fecking interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, thats the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

Why model cars at all then? Just use bumper view, model the physics and sounds and you could have 10,000 cars easy.

 

[Swagger897]

The thing is, a highly realistic simulation machine is so expensive, maybe it would be better to pay for the real thing. You need a G-Force chair for a start, and its not cheap.

*you need a running car for a start, which are highly more expensive than a vibrating chair*

Why model cars at all then? Just use bumper view, model the physics and sounds and you could have 10,000 cars easy.

Because photomode...

 

[Davoxx]

Nope, in the case of those, you will never be able to experience the real thing sorry, too expensive and games are no match and will never be.

Nope, first of all, I'm an oldschool gamer - I play games since the 8 bits consoles and I can enjoy games without being obsessed with graphics. Believe me - gameplay is far far more important than graphics.
Because of people obsessed with graphics, we'll end up getting games with amazing graphics and no content. Look at Forza 5. Rubbish.
Highly detailed graphics take SO much time and effort.

That what I said you are used to now to the mediocrity. I also started with GT1 , and it seam that you are a fan boy so blind because of feelings obviously ! We can't argue with you ! Forza 5 have monthly dlc and it's not a empty promise and there is no one major bugs as in gt6 !

 

[NixxxoN]

Why model cars at all then? Just use bumper view, model the physics and sounds and you could have 10,000 cars easy.

The exteriors of the car of course they need to be modeled, you need to see the cars in the track, dont you? (both yours and the other ones)

That what I said you are used to now to the mediocrity. I also started with GT1 , and it seam that you are a fan boy so blind because of feelings obviously ! We can't argue with you ! Forza 5 have monthly dlc and it's not a empty promise and there is no one major bugs as in gt6 !

Well, forza is from a next gen console so dont compare it with gt6... I only used it as an example of a great graphics game without much content.
I would say GT6 isnt mediocre, the PS3 is. You simply can't extract more power out of that machine.

*you need a running car for a start, which are highly more expensive than a vibrating chair*

Yep but still not the real thing and you have the possibility to rent a car for an hour or so on a trackday.

This summer im going to the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalulnya and I will drive a 458 Italia, cant freaking wait and I'm sure it will be far better than any game I will ever play in my life!

 

[Davoxx]

The exteriors of the car of course they need to be modeled, you need to see the cars in the track, dont you? (both yours and the other ones)

Well, forza is from a next gen console so dont compare it with gt6... I only used it as an example of a great graphics game without much content.
I would say GT6 isnt mediocre, the PS3 is. You simply can't extract more power out of that machine.

Yep but still not the real thing and you have the possibility to rent a car for an hour or so on a trackday.

This summer im going to the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalulnya and I will drive a 458 Italia, cant freaking wait and I'm sure it will be far better than any game I will ever play in my life!

There is no problem we can use the forza 4 example it's the same, even better ! Monthly Dlc and no one major bugs and moreover forza 4 was out 3 years ago btw.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the fecking interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, thats the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

Hahaha, hahahaha, haha. You're not serious, right?...

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

PD release two games within a year? I think there is more chance of a pig walking on the moon.

Yep, you're right.

 

[MXH]

Because of people obsessed with graphics, we'll end up getting games with amazing graphics and no content. Look at Forza 5. Rubbish.
Highly detailed graphics take SO much time and effort.
Far less content = far less gameplay possibilities and far less game life.

It's not all down to how much content a game has, but also how it manages its content. To be honest, the aforementioned game seems to be doing a far better job at it than GT6 with it 1200-or-so cars and massive track roster.

Quality over quantity. Consistency. We've been over this before.

 

[NixxxoN]

There is no problem we can use the forza 4 example it's the same, even better ! Monthly Dlc and no one major bugs and moreover forza 4 was out 3 years ago btw.

meh, i'd take the GT6 and it's physics over a bug-free Forza4.

Hahaha, hahahaha, haha. You're not serious, right?...

Im serious, it seems we have very different opinions, and mind you, I like to drive the cars, not staring at them and analysing their graphic details and interiors.

It's not all down to how much content a game has, but also how it manages its content. To be honest, the aforementioned game seems to be doing a far better job at it than GT6 with it 1200-or-so cars and massive track roster.

That's your opinion.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Hopefully, I'll have a PS4 when GT7 (or the Prologue) comes out.

 

[Samus]

Yeah sadly we are in 2014 were the graphic details are the only thing that seem to matter for some gamers of today (screw the fun of the game and playability)
They are able to do interiors but at the cost of much less car quantity.

I didnt say the opposite.


Immersion is a very overrated and "void" term a video game. Its still a game and always will be. There is no immersion really. If you want the real thing go drive real cars.

You drive cars because the pretty interiors? Its really a weird way to enjoy the game if you ask me.

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the fecking interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, thats the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

Nixxon completely disregarding anything he personally doesn't like or care for, well thats new.

Immersion in gaming is very much a real thing whether you like it yourself or not.

 

[NixxxoN]

Nixxon completely disregarding anything he personally doesn't like or care for, well thats new.

Immersion in gaming is very much a real thing whether you like it yourself or not.

I gave my opinion about it, and you seem to hate different opinions than yours, that's "new" aswell!

 

[Tornado]

Standard cars have cockpit view, its black, but it's still there.

Standard cars have a black cutout overlaid on a slightly offset bumper cam (inb4 eran pedantry). It's nowhere near as functional as the one in the Premium cars, or even the ones in GTPSP.

Nope, in the case of those, you will never be able to experience the real thing sorry, too expensive and games are no match and will never be.

I simply love how often you torpedo your own arguments without having any clue that you've done so.

Far less content = far less gameplay possibilities and far less game life.

Except now you're talking purely theoretical, since PD haven't done much of anything to actually utilize the amount of content in the series since GT4.


Related to that:

No its not designed around having the standard cars. I'm pretty sure they can remove all the standards prtty quickly if they want.

So tell me: How far can you get in the game without using one? Because for all of the talk you did about "gameplay possibilities", if they truly can drop all the Standard cars and not have to completely redesign the A-Spec mode to compensate like they would have for GT5, that means that 70% of the cars in the game aren't needed in the game as it is now.


We're also ignoring Standard tracks. How far can you get in the game without going to one of them?

I gave my opinion about it, and you seem to hate different opinions than yours, that's "new" aswell!

Swing and a miss.

 

[MXH]

That's your opinion.

Yes, thank you for pointing that out. So, do you have another take on it that you'd like to elaborate upon, perhaps?

 

[ParkerMO125]

everytime a rumour comes out everyone starts debating in a hostile manner lol damn you rumours!

 

[Tornado]

Yes, thank you for pointing that out. So, do you have another take on it that you'd like to elaborate upon, perhaps?

Considering how easy (albeit quite time consuming) it would be to actually hash out how much content goes unused between the two games (and how much content is simply padded), opinion doesn't factor too terribly much into it anyway. I know there were such lists for GT1, GT2 and GT5.

 

[spencer7x7]

You drive cars because the pretty interiors? Its really a weird way to enjoy the game if you ask me.

Yep, its the real driving simulator, not the real car interior modeling simulator. My point is you an still drive the cars without the fecking interior which is completely useless for the game until anyone here proves me wrong.
You know, car interiors take long to model, that's the problem. I'd rather have 500 cars without interior, than 150 with interior.

Not always, but it feels really great driving in cockpit mode sometimes. Once you go interior, it's pretty hard to go back. Sure the game is not all about the interiors but it helps set the mood.

*Cough* standard cars *cough*

Even so the amount of premiums in GT6 is more than other racing games combined, how PD uses those 400 premiums is another story.

Either way, I'll wait for E3 and hope for NO GT6 or GT7 on PS4.

 

[Samus]

I gave my opinion about it, and you seem to hate different opinions than yours, that's "new" aswell!

No what you do is take someones opinion of fun/how they enjoy the game and basically tell them they're wrong, or tell them how you have no idea how they like doing what they do. Or in this case, you tell them what they enjoy is "weird" or just doesn't exist, or rather that it's "void".

If you don't personally enjoy something it doesn't matter essentially. It happens over and over again. Shuffle racing, more expansive online modes in general and now interior detailing.

 

[Tornado]

Don't forget those "awful handling" American cars!

 

[NixxxoN]

simply love how often you torpedo your own arguments without having any clue that you've done so.

Except now you're talking purely theoretical, since PD haven't done much of anything to actually utilize the amount of content in the series since GT4.

Related to that:

So tell me: How far can you get in the game without using one? Because for all of the talk you did about "gameplay possibilities", if they truly can drop all the Standard cars and not have to completely redesign the A-Spec mode to compensate like they would have for GT5, that means that 70% of the cars in the game aren't needed in the game as it is now.

We're also ignoring Standard tracks. How far can you get in the game without going to one of them?

Swing and a miss.

the heck are you talking about?

 

[TokoTurismo]

Im serious, it seems we have very different opinions, and mind you, I like to drive the cars, not staring at them and analysing their graphic details and interiors.

Yeah for me is both. Whatever it is your trying to prove, is not working because no one is wrong in this one.

 

[Team THRT Drift]

Okay here's what really ticks me off about PD. They're a Japanese gaming company that specializes in cars and what-not, ocated in JAPAN, right? Now, why are there Japanese standard cars? Surely they can get their hands on a KenMeri Skyline and properly model the interior. They have tonnes of resources in Japan, and yet you see Japanese standards.

Now someone's going to come in and say, "It's difficult to obtain Japanese classics in Japan".

No it's not. In fact they're easier to get, compared to NA and EU! You can get a restored Fairlady Z for $30k in Japan.

Also, it's not only the classics that are portrayed as standards. You have modern vehicles that are portrayed as standards as well.

SURELY, you can your hands on a DC2, DC3, DC4, or DC5 Integra and 🤬 model the interior. Or a Miata, or a Skyline, or an NSX, or an S2000, etc.

I COMPLETELY understand that PD cannot get their hands on NA classics and EU classics as readily as in Japan, but at least model the cars that are considered domestic to you!

For 🤬 sake!

Furthermore, if you're not going to model every 🤬 variant in the game, GET RID OF IT!

 

[ironman44321]

So...everybody feel better now? Can we get back to the topic at hand?

From the rumor it sounds like GT6 will be fully ported over to the PS4 standards and all. I don't think they'll go untouched though, they'll probably get at least small bumps in quality. Which for me is fine, it's just a GT6 port after all.

As long as I can use my wheel and the performance is stable I'll be fine. GT6 with better graphics and a solid 60 FPS (plus whatever added features they were talking about) seems worth an upgrade to me. Oh, and either don't charge $60 for it or have enough extra stuff to make it worth it for someone who already has GT6 on the PS3. $15-$20 of DLC would be fine.

That's just my take on things of course.

*Snipped for space*

Really? Don't you think PD has shown enough favoritism towards Japanese cars? Personally, I think PD should upgrade cars based on what cars are worth it and not just where they're from. For instance, wouldn't you rather have a premium BMW 2002 over a premium Honda life van?

 

[Johnnypenso]

So...everybody feel better now? Can we get back to the topic at hand?

Get back to the topic of an uncorroborated rumour from a single source on an internet website. That's not a topic it's a punchline.

 

[Gerarghini]

Really? Don't you think PD has shown enough favoritism towards Japanese cars? Personally, I think PD should upgrade cars based on what cars are worth it and not just where they're from. For instance, wouldn't you rather have a premium BMW 2002 over a premium Honda life van?

Well I think it's just odd that T10 was able to model a TS020 and R390, even though they're an American developer and the two mentioned cars have been in GT since I believe GT2.

And to answer your question, this is PD we're talking about here, the same company that took the time to model a moon rover that's only used in 3 events.